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tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 3 @ 11:44 AM ET
nyrsucks would definitely take a hard D...

...would be his best grade ever.

- eichiefs9

For sure
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Aug 3 @ 11:53 AM ET
Ive mentioned it twice the last few days with no response.

How do people feel about a Klein trade?

Does it make more sense to leave him available for the expan draft? Kinda feel like that's losing an asset for nothing but at the same time he could protect someone else on the roster. I just feel like yes, that MDZ for KK trade has worked out GREAT for the team but how much more quality minutes can you keep expecting outa him.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 3 @ 11:54 AM ET
Ive mentioned it twice the last few days with no response.

How do people feel about a Klein trade?

Does it make more sense to leave him available for the expan draft? Kinda feel like that's losing an asset for nothing but at the same time he could protect someone else on the roster. I just feel like yes, that MDZ for KK trade has worked out GREAT for the team but how much more quality minutes can you keep expecting outa him.

- mrn22

Seems like GM's are going to wait until, at least, the deadline before they start making trades to pass off guys who they can't/won't protect that have a chance of getting taken. I would expect that immediately following the conclusion of the Cup this season, we'll see a slew of trades happen.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 3 @ 11:59 AM ET
Ive mentioned it twice the last few days with no response.

How do people feel about a Klein trade?

Does it make more sense to leave him available for the expan draft? Kinda feel like that's losing an asset for nothing but at the same time he could protect someone else on the roster. I just feel like yes, that MDZ for KK trade has worked out GREAT for the team but how much more quality minutes can you keep expecting outa him.

- mrn22

I think we'll have to wait and see how the season unfolds. Maybe Girardi is miserable and we buy him out which frees up a slot to protect Klein?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 3 @ 12:05 PM ET
Ive mentioned it twice the last few days with no response.

How do people feel about a Klein trade?

Does it make more sense to leave him available for the expan draft? Kinda feel like that's losing an asset for nothing but at the same time he could protect someone else on the roster. I just feel like yes, that MDZ for KK trade has worked out GREAT for the team but how much more quality minutes can you keep expecting outa him.

- mrn22

I say keep him unless you are getting a much younger NHL caliber player.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 3 @ 12:05 PM ET
I think we'll have to wait and see how the season unfolds. Maybe Girardi is miserable and we buy him out which frees up a slot to protect Klein?
- rangerdanger94

mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Aug 3 @ 12:07 PM ET
Ive mentioned it twice the last few days with no response.

How do people feel about a Klein trade?

Does it make more sense to leave him available for the expan draft? Kinda feel like that's losing an asset for nothing but at the same time he could protect someone else on the roster. I just feel like yes, that MDZ for KK trade has worked out GREAT for the team but how much more quality minutes can you keep expecting outa him.

- mrn22



I think it should be entertained. It would be a "sell high" mentality and I'd absolutely hate to lose him to expansion. If Staal and/or Girardi can be moved and Klein protected, then I would not deal him until after the expansion draft. He will not be affordable to keep once he hits free agency in a few years. He's an absolute steal in terms of performance and salary.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 3 @ 12:20 PM ET
Ive mentioned it twice the last few days with no response.

How do people feel about a Klein trade?

Does it make more sense to leave him available for the expan draft? Kinda feel like that's losing an asset for nothing but at the same time he could protect someone else on the roster. I just feel like yes, that MDZ for KK trade has worked out GREAT for the team but how much more quality minutes can you keep expecting outa him.

- mrn22

You trade Klein which is fine, but that means the right side of the blue line would be Girardi, Mcilrath and Clendening. That's gonna be a problem no matter if Mcilrath get's better or not.
MiloslavHorava
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 02.12.2016

Aug 3 @ 12:22 PM ET
I think it should be entertained. It would be a "sell high" mentality and I'd absolutely hate to lose him to expansion. If Staal and/or Girardi can be moved and Klein protected, then I would not deal him until after the expansion draft. He will not be affordable to keep once he hits free agency in a few years. He's an absolute steal in terms of performance and salary.
- mames11


You cant trade Klein until you see what the young guys can do. Right now, he is in your top 3 defensemen. Trading him would put more pressure on a younger guy or more minutes on a possibly deteriorating Girardi / Staal. They would have to wait to the trade deadline, unless they are getting back an NHL ready and quality defensemen who can take his spot in the lineup
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Aug 3 @ 12:24 PM ET
You trade Klein which is fine, but that means the right side of the blue line would be Girardi, Mcilrath and Clendening. That's gonna be a problem no matter if Mcilrath get's better or not.
- tomburton99


I think you can opnly really do it now if Skjei can play the right side. Also, like Feds said Im only really doing it for a young NHL caliber player. I wanna see Gorton start a trend with selling high on guys who surely wont be able to maintain their level in a year or 2 which unfortunately I see happening with Klein. I really think we got the best outa him
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 3 @ 12:33 PM ET
I think you can opnly really do it now if Skjei can play the right side. Also, like Feds said Im only really doing it for a young NHL caliber player. I wanna see Gorton start a trend with selling high on guys who surely wont be able to maintain their level in a year or 2 which unfortunately I see happening with Klein. I really think we got the best outa him
- mrn22

You gotta look at team who "desperate" to make the playoffs to start. That eliminates 2/3rd's of the league. You're going to have cherry pick teams like the Canadiens, Avalanche, Boston, Winnipeg. You may be able to include Dallas, I just don't see them dealing for a d-man, maybe a goalie.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 3 @ 12:48 PM ET
You gotta look at team who "desperate" to make the playoffs to start. That eliminates 2/3rd's of the league. You're going to have cherry pick teams like the Canadiens, Avalanche, Boston, Winnipeg. You may be able to include Dallas, I just don't see them dealing for a d-man, maybe a goalie.
- tomburton99

I think contenders would definitely value Klein as well due to his very low cap hit. But it gets tricky as you may need to find a contender who is willing and able to protect him from the draft, and I'm not sure there are many.
MiloslavHorava
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 02.12.2016

Aug 3 @ 12:51 PM ET
I think contenders would definitely value Klein as well due to his very low cap hit. But it gets tricky as you may need to find a contender who is willing and able to protect him from the draft, and I'm not sure there are many.
- rangerdanger94


Or just a contender that is going for it like the rangers went for it with Yandle at the trade deadline (If the Rangers are out of it, or feel they can sacrifice him because they have a solid 6/7 Dmen without him)
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 3 @ 12:54 PM ET
Or just a contender that is going for it like the rangers went for it with Yandle at the trade deadline (If the Rangers are out of it, or feel they can sacrifice him because they have a solid 6/7 Dmen without him)
- MiloslavHorava

That's true too. A team like Chicago may go all in at the deadline again for Klein even though they're full aware they may lose him.

But also, doesn't Klein only have 2 more years on his deal? So at the time of the expansion draft, it'll be just 1? Maybe the Knights choose a different player from us who is locked in longer term or will remain an RFA?
MiloslavHorava
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 02.12.2016

Aug 3 @ 12:58 PM ET
That's true too. A team like Chicago may go all in at the deadline again for Klein even though they're full aware they may lose him.

But also, doesn't Klein only have 2 more years on his deal? So at the time of the expansion draft, it'll be just 1? Maybe the Knights choose a different player from us who is locked in longer term or will remain an RFA?

- rangerdanger94


The Rangers should resign Dan Boyle so the Knights can take him.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 3 @ 1:04 PM ET
The Rangers should resign Dan Boyle so the Knights can take him.
- MiloslavHorava

jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Aug 3 @ 2:00 PM ET

- tomburton99


mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Aug 3 @ 2:20 PM ET

- jimbro83


Jimbo whats your take on Klein?
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Aug 3 @ 2:20 PM ET
not sure why it really matters at this point what he did/didn't do in terms of performance..he's gone..let'st discuss possible moves prior to the season.. how about talking about vermette for a 1 year deal on the cheap??
- mattstake

I adddd Moore because I said I would try and provide a grade for all players. In terms of Vermette, this is what I wrote in the blog: "I could see Antoine Vermette, who also wins draws and is a possible scoring option from the fourth line, added to the roster. Though his numbers took a major nose dive and he is better suited to second rather than fourth line duty."
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 3 @ 2:21 PM ET

- jimbro83

I don't even want to see Dan Boyle back for alumni games/events. I would attend just to boo hi,.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 3 @ 2:27 PM ET
I don't even want to see Dan Boyle back for alumni games/events. I would attend just to boo hi,.
- tomburton99

Ban Doyle
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 3 @ 2:52 PM ET
Ban Doyle
- eichiefs9

rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 3 @ 3:03 PM ET
Ban Doyle
- eichiefs9

O'Doyle Rules!
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Aug 3 @ 3:17 PM ET
You cant trade Klein until you see what the young guys can do. Right now, he is in your top 3 defensemen. Trading him would put more pressure on a younger guy or more minutes on a possibly deteriorating Girardi / Staal. They would have to wait to the trade deadline, unless they are getting back an NHL ready and quality defensemen who can take his spot in the lineup
- MiloslavHorava



But if they have a deal to get Capt Kirk out of St Louis.......
Dundee13
New York Rangers
Joined: 08.12.2014

Aug 3 @ 3:18 PM ET
Moore : age hit hard last yr... a lot of hockey for him since a NYR

should retire? i wish him well..........

Vermette : hes a 2nd line type? may not still ?

why would we expect him to play a dirty 4th line role? not his game

we have the makings of a top notch 4th line ..Oscar when healthy

will pay his dues & be a contingency if injury happens in #1&2 lines

Joors or Jooris also a very solid center or just 4th liner....we have

more than enough talent to make the 4th line a factor...........Hrivik i like too

grabner gerbe along with a few more ..

Hayes could have Fast for responsibilty reasons & J T /Bushny

Vermette even bouhgt out wont fit good ...I M O
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