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turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Aug 2 @ 10:27 AM ET
I think it's between the home team pull (Boston) and the best opportunity (Buffalo) for Vesey. He's a smart kid and Chicago doesn't make a lot of sense due to their cap situation. PIT is my darkhorse
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Aug 2 @ 10:28 AM ET
On Vesey:

1 - I agree that I can't wait for the 15th to get this crap over with so we can move on a make (presumably) the moves we need to make while waiting for him.

2 - Why would he want to go to Chicago? He waits all of this time to pick where he wants to play, and then will be at their mercy in 2 years? They won't be able to pay him (if he plays well) what he'll want then, so he'll either have to sit out in a contract dispute, take a modest tender increase, or be traded to the team that will give Chicago the best return. Just doesn't make sense to me.

3 - I still don't think he signs here, but Chicago just doesn't add up.

- Cup Crazy '07


If we sign Vesey, then Murray gets a pass, and I'll figure it was assumed all along that he would sign here. But if he doesn't the fact that you traded a pick for a kid that spurned the team that drafted him and said that would wait until Aug 15th to sign with a team, is dumb
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 2 @ 10:29 AM ET

- homiedclown


I still think they need to hold on to him for one more season, however...barring a disaster in the courts...I think they should do the same thing with Moulson as well...and at the end of next season, if they move on from both, they just opened up $10M
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Aug 2 @ 10:29 AM ET
the bit thing is that he's been saying all along that those two years are crucial to maximizing his next contract...being in Chicago with that kind of firepower fits right into his plans...I think buffalo wins out over Toronto and boston, but I don't think they can compete with Chicago or even pittsburgh
- Michael Pachla


I agree, but his next contract will have to be in Chicago, or to a team they trade him to. I can't see Chicago being able to pay him what he'll want...

If he was going to be a UFA at the end of these 2 years, then yeah, Chicago would definitely be the place to go. But he'll still be an RFA, which means he'll be at their mercy when time comes to get his next contract.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 2 @ 10:31 AM ET
I think it's between the home team pull (Boston) and the best opportunity (Buffalo) for Vesey. He's a smart kid and Chicago doesn't make a lot of sense due to their cap situation. PIT is my darkhorse
- turbo044

Agreed, and IMO he sees what he could potentially have here, unlike with Toews or Crosby, he has played and talked to Eichel, so worrying whether he would be on a short leash as far as chemistry is concerned, shouldn't be an issue.

Not to mention, it hasn't been that easy for wingers in Pitt to get chemistry with 87. Just ask Neal, Hornqvist and Kessel
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Aug 2 @ 10:31 AM ET
I agree, but his next contract will have to be in Chicago, or to a team they trade him to. I can't see Chicago being able to pay him what he'll want...

If he was going to be a UFA at the end of these 2 years, then yeah, Chicago would definitely be the place to go. But he'll still be an RFA, which means he'll be at their mercy when time comes to get his next contract.

- Cup Crazy '07


are you sure on the rfa thing?...I really don't know
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 2 @ 10:34 AM ET
are you sure on the rfa thing?...I really don't know
- Michael Pachla


RFA. Kevin Hayes, Justin Schultz, Mike Reilly, etc who have done this exact same route are all RFAs after their 2 year ELCs were done
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 2 @ 10:34 AM ET
are you sure on the rfa thing?...I really don't know
- Michael Pachla

Yea, he will be an RFA
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Aug 2 @ 10:35 AM ET
are you sure on the rfa thing?...I really don't know
- Michael Pachla


I guess I'm not sure, but I'm pretty confident. Who knows, maybe Chicago is set up to sign him after two years, I'm just spit balling.

It is frustrating though how the rich always get richer, isn't it? It's exactly why I was on board with signing Stamkos. If you get your two or three elites in the fold, everything else will fall into place.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Aug 2 @ 10:38 AM ET
Uncle Terry has seen enough of this Kane sh!t show.
- Irish 14

Actually, he hasn't, not enough to move him.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 2 @ 10:44 AM ET
Show of hands, who didn't see these problems with Evander Kane coming?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 2 @ 10:44 AM ET
I still think they need to hold on to him for one more season, however...barring a disaster in the courts...I think they should do the same thing with Moulson as well...and at the end of next season, if they move on from both, they just opened up $10M
- Michael Pachla

you don't trade myers, staff, armia, lemieux and a first rd pick for

a 4th d man
an echl goalie
and a player to put on the list for an expansion team to take
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 2 @ 10:45 AM ET
RFA. Kevin Hayes, Justin Schultz, Mike Reilly, etc who have done this exact same route are all RFAs after their 2 year ELCs were done
- DDM-Coga

if vesey goes to the hawks, he will get paid in 2 years


dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Aug 2 @ 10:46 AM ET
you don't trade myers, staff, armia, lemieux and a first rd pick for

a 4th d man
an echl goalie
and a player to put on the list for an expansion team to take

- homiedclown



Apparently you do.............
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Aug 2 @ 10:48 AM ET
if vesey goes to the hawks, he will get paid in 2 years
- homiedclown

As of now, we are 3rd on the Vesey list. Move on from this kid already he isn't worth all the hype.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Aug 2 @ 10:49 AM ET
if vesey goes to the hawks, he will get paid in 2 years
- homiedclown


Not if he doesn't live up too the hype .
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 2 @ 10:49 AM ET
if vesey goes to the hawks, he will get paid in 2 years
- homiedclown


They will deal that issue when it comes to that, They could trade him in 2 years as well like they had to do with Saad, shaw, Leddy etc. Ride that ELC as much as they can if it gets them a cup
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Aug 2 @ 10:50 AM ET
As of now, we are 3rd on the Vesey list. Move on from this kid already he isn't worth all the hype.
- SABRES 89



We aren't getting Vesey, I can't believe fans haven't moved on.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Aug 2 @ 10:52 AM ET
As of now, we are 3rd on the Vesey list. Move on from this kid already he isn't worth all the hype.
- SABRES 89


who's first and second? Boston and?
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Aug 2 @ 10:52 AM ET
We aren't getting Vesey, I can't believe fans haven't moved on.
- Buffalo--Sabres

I moved on a month ago
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Aug 2 @ 10:54 AM ET
We aren't getting Vesey, I can't believe fans haven't moved on.
- Buffalo--Sabres


I don't see any fans saying anything about it . either way.
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Aug 2 @ 10:54 AM ET
I just want to wake up in December to see the team is playing well (with or without Vesey) and Kane has not been arrested, suspended, subpoenad, or incarcerated and is on pace to score 30 goals....nobody will care about this crap going on now in this dream scenario.

Oh, and Lehner is a Vezina candidate.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Aug 2 @ 10:54 AM ET
who's first and second? Boston and?
- Sabresfan-365

Hawks
Bruins
Sabres
Leafs


Maybe Devils and Red Wings


Awhile back I posted Hawks and Wings where dark horses but that seems to have changed.

Wouldn't count out the Rangers either, he's going to talk with every team he has interest in and maybe a couple others.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Aug 2 @ 10:56 AM ET
I don't see any fans saying anything about it . either way.
- cabin

but gerbe guaranteed we were going to sign him..
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Aug 2 @ 10:57 AM ET
but gerbe guaranteed we were going to sign him..
- IndianaSabresFan

The Apple called me an IDIOT, i'm not saying he's wrong.
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