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Cyrakhis
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jul 30 @ 4:28 PM ET
Can't really compare. Baseball players develop very differently than NHL ones do, and their draft is SO much more of a crapshoot. You rarely see guys come into the league at a young age and do anything significant as well, unlike the NHL. Mike Trout and Bryce Harper are outliers, not the norm.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jul 30 @ 4:28 PM ET
I think only 2 out of these 4 players will be on the starting lineup:
Laich
Greening
Holland
Michalek

Marner and Hyman will fill those two spots.

- Njuice


IMO
Marner will be sent back to London in favor of a vet.
Hyman will be sent down as well Soshkov (sp) and will be 1st to be called up when players go down.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 30 @ 4:39 PM ET
IMO
Marner will be sent back to London in favor of a vet.
Hyman will be sent down as well Soshkov (sp) and will be 1st to be called up when players go down.

- dmnted

I think Hyman is a full timer.
Gusto
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Land of Ice and snow,From , ON
Joined: 07.07.2009

Jul 30 @ 4:48 PM ET
IMO
Marner will be sent back to London in favor of a vet.
Hyman will be sent down as well Soshkov (sp) and will be 1st to be called up when players go down.

- dmnted


Marner is too good to be sent down again. It won't help his development playing with kids another year. He'll crack the line up but will be protected. IMO
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Jul 30 @ 4:55 PM ET
Got you.

I haven't seen him play much at all but we will soon.

I guess I think of him as a tougher Komarov with some skill, not a Colton Orr.

The 4th line for the Islanders was pretty effective with hits and points.

- underhill14

I think hes more of a bigger rich Clune if anything.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jul 30 @ 4:57 PM ET
IMO
Marner will be sent back to London in favor of a vet.
Hyman will be sent down as well Soshkov (sp) and will be 1st to be called up when players go down.

- dmnted


There is just no way Marner can go back down....I think that would be a bad decision.

12-15m a night at the NHL level will be much better for his development.


I think there will be a few more moves before the season starts. Holland, Michalek, Greening, Lupul.....something has to give.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jul 30 @ 5:00 PM ET
I think hes more of a bigger rich Clune if anything.
- HealthyScratch6


Okay...not bad because hard hitting 4th liner is definitely a need but I was hoping for more.

Have you watched him play a lot?

Greening, Laich, Martin should be fun to watch at least.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 30 @ 5:01 PM ET
Mike Augello: Are The Jays Following The Leafs Disastrous Path?
- mikeinbuffalo

pitching is much better than most give them credit for

the team will be fine if they keep donaldson around


they should let jose walk and try to up EE on a 4 or 5 year deal IMO

I love jose, but he doesn't stay on the filed and wants too many years added IMO
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 30 @ 5:01 PM ET


Edit: bump for all of you waffle eaters!

- underhill14

dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jul 30 @ 5:03 PM ET
pitching is much better than most give them credit for

the team will be fine if they keep donaldson around


they should let jose walk and try to up EE on a 4 or 5 year deal IMO

I love jose, but he doesn't stay on the filed and wants too many years added IMO

- homiedclown

trade him now and get some decent assets for him.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Jul 30 @ 5:06 PM ET
There is just no way Marner can go back down....I think that would be a bad decision.

12-15m a night at the NHL level will be much better for his development.


I think there will be a few more moves before the season starts. Holland, Michalek, Greening, Lupul.....something has to give.

- underhill14



It's a number game at the moment. If they can move Lupul and/or Greening, Holland, Michalek, then he may have chance but I do think he goes back.
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 30 @ 5:08 PM ET
There is just no way Marner can go back down....I think that would be a bad decision.

12-15m a night at the NHL level will be much better for his development.


I think there will be a few more moves before the season starts. Holland, Michalek, Greening, Lupul.....something has to give.

- underhill14


Yeah and we have the cap space to afford sending any of them to the minors. So at the end of the day, regardless of their crappy contracts Babcock gets to pick all 13 forwards that he wants.
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Jul 30 @ 5:08 PM ET
It's a number game at the moment. If they can move Lupul and/or Greening, Holland, Michalek, then he may have chance but I do think he goes back.
- dmnted


They can move any or all of them that they want to move. Straight to waivers.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 30 @ 5:18 PM ET
trade him now and get some decent assets for him.
- dmnted



Keep him and go for it this year. You won't get enough on a trade now to make it worth it.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jul 30 @ 5:26 PM ET
They can move any or all of them that they want to move. Straight to waivers.
- Njuice



I could see that with Holland, Greening but Michalek, Laich will stay up. (Although, I liked what I saw from Greening.)

I don't think they would screw up their careers and lose the possibility of getting an extra pick at the deadline.

So with Holland being the only one going down, we need trades!

JVR, Kadri, Komarov
Lupul, Bozak, Marner
Greening, Matthews, Nylander
Michalek, Laich, Martin

Lupul breaks.....Brown up, Komarov slides down.

Michalek breaks.....Greening down, Komarov down, Brown up.

Edit: CAN'T WAIT FOR CAMP!
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 30 @ 5:34 PM ET
It just seems like Marner has kicked so much ass that he'll make it impossible for them to send him back to junior. They can shelter him, lend him to the Team Canada juniors if they want. As part of a group of rookies, Matthews sure as poop is some good shelter for Marner, not to mention Nylander. The heat can be spread around. Who knows, but his junior performance was just so ridiculous I can't bet against him moving up for good.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 30 @ 5:34 PM ET
trade him now and get some decent assets for him.
- dmnted

tough call, if he caves and will settle for a 2 year deal, they can have a decent run for a bit
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jul 30 @ 5:50 PM ET
It just seems like Marner has kicked so much ass that he'll make it impossible for them to send him back to junior. They can shelter him, lend him to the Team Canada juniors if they want. As part of a group of rookies, Matthews sure as poop is some good shelter for Marner, not to mention Nylander. The heat can be spread around. Who knows, but his junior performance was just so ridiculous I can't bet against him moving up for good.
- Zezel


^This.
Erik6Karlsson5
Ottawa Senators
Location: It's Knuckle Puck Time.., NB
Joined: 01.23.2013

Jul 30 @ 6:08 PM ET
Mike Augello: Are The Jays Following The Leafs Disastrous Path?
- mikeinbuffalo



Don't you ever mention my Jays in the same sentence as the Leafs
Erik6Karlsson5
Ottawa Senators
Location: It's Knuckle Puck Time.., NB
Joined: 01.23.2013

Jul 30 @ 6:11 PM ET
I could see that with Holland, Greening but Michalek, Laich will stay up. (Although, I liked what I saw from Greening.)

I don't think they would screw up their careers and lose the possibility of getting an extra pick at the deadline.

So with Holland being the only one going down, we need trades!

JVR, Kadri, Komarov
Lupul, Bozak, Marner
Greening, Matthews, Nylander
Michalek, Laich, Martin

Lupul breaks.....Brown up, Komarov slides down.


Michalek breaks.....Greening down, Komarov down, Brown up.

Edit: CAN'T WAIT FOR CAMP!

- underhill14



Colin Greening in your top 9
AustonPowers
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Supreme Manager of the Johnny Boychuk to EDM Thread
Joined: 07.14.2016

Jul 30 @ 6:13 PM ET


Edit: bump for all of you waffle eaters!

- underhill14

hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 30 @ 6:15 PM ET
Colin Greening in your top 9

- Erik6Karlsson5

40 point pace playing with Nylander.

Not our fault your team doesn't have a guy with the skill to make Greening look like an NHLer.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jul 30 @ 6:23 PM ET
Colin Greening in your top 9

- Erik6Karlsson5


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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 30 @ 6:55 PM ET
Don't you ever mention my Jays in the same sentence as the Leafs
- Erik6Karlsson5


Why not? They're both toronto teams. Blue and white baby.
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jul 30 @ 6:57 PM ET
Why not? They're both toronto teams. Blue and white baby.
- systemtool

Cause he's a senatard..
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