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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 29 @ 1:52 PM ET
While I do agree about the classlessness, a legal body check would also get you assault charges on the street.

Edit: A 4-minute high sticking double minor could probably get you years of jail time on the street.

- jmatchett383



No, it wouldn't. In hockey there is a reasonable expectation you will be hit legally as part of the sporting event in question.

What Domi did was throw an elbow at a unsuspecting player illegally and well away from any play. There was no reasonable expectation of contact.

As to your second point, yes it would if it were on purpose such as what McSorely did to Brashear. But in the flow of a game such as when it is accidental, (which it is most of the time) again it falls under the reasonable expectation of physical contact playing a contact sport engenders.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 29 @ 2:11 PM ET
No, it wouldn't. In hockey there is a reasonable expectation you will be hit legally as part of the sporting event in question.

What Domi did was throw an elbow at a unsuspecting player illegally and well away from any play. There was no reasonable expectation of contact.

As to your second point, yes it would if it were on purpose such as what McSorely did to Brashear. But in the flow of a game such as when it is accidental, (which it is most of the time) again it falls under the reasonable expectation of physical contact playing a contact sport engenders.

- MBFlyerfan


So if you were walking down the street, and I came towards you at a high rate of speed and forcefully took you off your feet by putting a shoulder into your chest, any nearby cop wouldn't bat an eye? I'm pretty sure that's the definition of "assault."

It's the same with football. If you "legally" tackled someone who was going for a stroll, you will get locked up. What happens in the game and what happens "on the street" are two different sets of rules.

Edit: Yes, within the confines of the arena during play, these things fall under an umbrella of rules and repercussions. But if you went down the street and swung your stick up and cut somebody's lip with it, your ass is getting taken to jail, not sitting in a box for 4 minutes.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 29 @ 2:29 PM ET
Really? I kinda enjoyed when he did this.

Hilarious that POS Scott Stevens is going bezerk. Pot meet kettle.


- PLindbergh31


Really? That was a classic cheap shot. No place for that. Why would you enjoy that?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 29 @ 2:54 PM ET
Really? That was a classic cheap shot. No place for that. Why would you enjoy that?
- Scoob


The fact that Don Cherry vehemently defended Domi was astonishing.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 29 @ 3:02 PM ET
Trivia:

Without searching, can you name the player who scored the first goal in Sharks team history?

Hint: It was the second-to-last goal the player would ever score in the NHL (he only had 14 for his career).
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 29 @ 3:11 PM ET
Anyone know whatever happened between that former Flyers player who brought a defamation lawsuit against a former referee? I can't find any updates on it.
Levit8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Joined: 07.24.2015

Jul 29 @ 3:23 PM ET
Anyone know whatever happened between that former Flyers player who brought a defamation lawsuit against a former referee? I can't find any updates on it.
- jmatchett383


Lindros filed a suit against Paul Stewart. Haven't seen any updates since the filing of the suit.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jul 29 @ 3:23 PM ET
The fact that Don Cherry vehemently defended Domi was astonishing.
- jmatchett383

I always like how Don Cherry purposefully mispronounces players names.

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 29 @ 3:30 PM ET
"Sandy McCarthy - loved him as a Flyer " - scoob

i met him not long after as a member of the rangers, AT A FUNDRAISER for ice hockey in harlem (a snider hockey pre-cursor), paid him a compliment, and he was a complete (frank)ing bumhole.

that guy can suck a bag of a;lksjdfa;lsjkd.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 29 @ 3:32 PM ET
When Domi went after Burt and was sucker punching him, I was so angry I threw my remote across the room in to a mirror, shattering both the mirror and the remote. To this day I still hate his guts. That hatred has been transferred over to his stinkin' son.

(frank) Tie Domi I hope his whole family dies in a fire.

- MBFlyerfan




marry me.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jul 29 @ 3:40 PM ET
"Sandy McCarthy - loved him as a Flyer " - scoob

i met him not long after as a member of the rangers, AT A FUNDRAISER for ice hockey in harlem (a snider hockey pre-cursor), paid him a compliment, and he was a complete (frank)ing bumhole.

that guy can suck a bag of a;lksjdfa;lsjkd.

- hammarby31

maybe he was having a bad day...
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 29 @ 4:00 PM ET
"Sandy McCarthy - loved him as a Flyer " - scoob

i met him not long after as a member of the rangers, AT A FUNDRAISER for ice hockey in harlem (a snider hockey pre-cursor), paid him a compliment, and he was a complete (frank)ing bumhole.

that guy can suck a bag of a;lksjdfa;lsjkd.

- hammarby31


I like him more now. lol!!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 29 @ 4:01 PM ET
"Sandy McCarthy - loved him as a Flyer " - scoob

i met him not long after as a member of the rangers, AT A FUNDRAISER for ice hockey in harlem (a snider hockey pre-cursor), paid him a compliment, and he was a complete (frank)ing bumhole.

that guy can suck a bag of a;lksjdfa;lsjkd.

- hammarby31


Do you remember the exchange?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 29 @ 4:15 PM ET
maybe he was having a bad day...
- aightwebang17


maybe he was. i couldn't give a flying (frank).
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 29 @ 4:15 PM ET
I like him more now. lol!!
- Scoob


really? why?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 29 @ 4:16 PM ET
Do you remember the exchange?
- jmatchett383


hammarby: "Hey, for a no talent goon you don't skate half bad"

SM: "How rude!"

lol
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 29 @ 4:17 PM ET
really? why?
- hammarby31


It was a joke
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 29 @ 4:18 PM ET
Do you remember the exchange?
- jmatchett383


i do. and what he said in and of itself wasn't so terrible, but it was how he said it, his demeanor. just a bizarre thing. i wouldn't have minded so much if it was an exchange that was on the street let's say, but this was a fundraiser being hosted by his employer to raise money for this program. the behavior was unbecoming of the context. even stranger because i complimented him. brief. didn't ask for a picture or an autograph or any of that.

again, (frank) him.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 29 @ 4:19 PM ET
hammarby: "Hey, for a no talent goon you don't skate half bad"

SM: "How rude!"

lol

- Scoob


in retrospect that's what i should have said
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 29 @ 4:22 PM ET
Trivia:

Without searching, can you name the player who scored the first goal in Sharks team history?

Hint: It was the second-to-last goal the player would ever score in the NHL (he only had 14 for his career).

- jmatchett383


I was going to guess Link Gaetz, before I cheated and looked it up.

It wasn't Link
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 29 @ 4:33 PM ET
I was going to guess Link Gaetz, before I cheated and looked it up.

It wasn't Link

- Jsaquella


My guess was Falloon. Not him. Horrible guess given the hint. lol
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jul 29 @ 5:13 PM ET
in retrospect that's what i should have said
- hammarby31


I once prepared Mexican food for Bobby Holik when I lived in Jackson, Wy. I should have poop in it.
GeorgeBailey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 29 @ 5:17 PM ET
Really? I kinda enjoyed when he did this.

Hilarious that POS Scott Stevens is going bezerk. Pot meet kettle.


- PLindbergh31



Gee, who is that Maple Leaf executive clapping at the end? Could that be Ken Dryden? Good thing his saintly Canadiens saved hockey from such goonery.

Dryden had that narrative on the Flyers in "The Game". Other than the Schultz/Rolfe fight, I wonder how many fights occurred during those three play-off runs? I don't really recall too many others (of course, it has been 40 years and I was only 10-12 years old).

What's he doing commenting on US politics, anyway? It is none of his business.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jul 29 @ 5:44 PM ET
I was going to guess Link Gaetz, before I cheated and looked it up.

It wasn't Link

- Jsaquella


I was going to guess Rob Zettler. (I looked it up. I forgot all about the guy who actually scored the 1st goal).
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 29 @ 5:47 PM ET
I once prepared Mexican food for Bobby Holik when I lived in Jackson, Wy. I should have poop in it.
- wilsonecho91


i remember that time. i think i said as much.
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