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classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jul 28 @ 11:40 PM ET
Harkki @scanadusa
I work with Finnish TeleCastors as Information Reporter. http://www.finlandtimes.fi/sports Trust in Harkki.

The website above is legitimate. Apparently his tweets used to appear on "hockey press" .

Harkki ‏@scanadusa 23h23 hours ago

Am told when Vesey make official sign to Buffalo, Evander Kane and Josh Gorges will be trade to Vancouver for first round pick.

Harkki ‏@scanadusa 23h23 hours ago

Am told Buffalo might be take non roster contract (Higgins? my addition) in deal as well, for buyout purpose- then trade round 1 pick for defenseman Fowler

- Retinalz


Let me get this straight as it is a nightmare to read.
1) Buffalo gets our first (which has a greater chance of being lottery pick than not)


2) We get the head case & and ANOTHER D-man in Georges

3) Buffalo trades pick for Fowler.

If this happened Benning should be lynched. Buffalo gets fowler for kane and georges
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 28 @ 11:49 PM ET
Let me get this straight as it is a nightmare to read.
1) Buffalo gets our first (which has a greater chance of being lottery pick than not)


2) We get the head case & and ANOTHER D-man in Georges

3) Buffalo trades pick for Fowler.

If this happened Benning should be lynched. Buffalo gets fowler for kane and georges

- classic321



Sunshine and roses as always I see.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jul 28 @ 11:58 PM ET
Sunshine and roses as always I see.
- VANTEL


I'd be choked if we gave up a first for Kane.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jul 29 @ 12:01 AM ET
I'd be choked if we gave up a first for Kane.
- CubanBuffet



Skip the middle man and just trade it for Fowler

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 29 @ 12:01 AM ET
I'd be choked if we gave up a first for Kane.
- CubanBuffet

Gorges plays a tough game . And Kane is Kane. I know more than half here think we will finish bottom 5 but I think we will draft 15-20
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jul 29 @ 12:05 AM ET
Skip the middle man and just trade it for Fowler
- classic321


That, or keep it. I'm hopeful for next season, but not nearly enough to trade that pick.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 29 @ 12:05 AM ET
Let me get this straight as it is a nightmare to read.
1) Buffalo gets our first (which has a greater chance of being lottery pick than not)


2) We get the head case & and ANOTHER D-man in Georges

3) Buffalo trades pick for Fowler.

If this happened Benning should be lynched. Buffalo gets fowler for kane and georges

- classic321

I don't believe that for a minute, rebuilding teams don't trade their first round picks.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 29 @ 12:07 AM ET
I'd be choked if we gave up a first for Kane.
- CubanBuffet

I'd be more than choked!!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 29 @ 12:10 AM ET
I'd be more than choked!!
- LeftCoaster

But you are choked already at every trade he makes, what is the superlative of chocked! Lefty will be chokest?
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jul 29 @ 12:10 AM ET
Gorges plays a tough game . And Kane is Kane. I know more than half here think we will finish bottom 5 but I think we will draft 15-20
- VANTEL


Are you sure enough to bet a potential lottery pick? I'm not saying don't make that bet, but not on Kane.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 29 @ 12:20 AM ET
But you are choked already at every trade he makes, what is the superlative of chocked! Lefty will be chokest?
- VANTEL

Something like that


It's really a misnomer that I'm choked all the time, I'm not. If you look at Bennings trade history I'm not a fan of some of them but to say all of them is false.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 29 @ 12:20 AM ET
I don't believe that for a minute, rebuilding teams don't trade their first round picks.
- LeftCoaster


I believe it's possible for sure. The team is supposed to be rebuilding but trading a 1st round pick for a 24 year old isn't that bad. It is only Evander Kane but it's probably the only thing they have ever to try and bring someone in for top 6 help.

I'd be a bit disappointed but I I don't believe this guy could possibly have all the details correct either. Even if it's true which its more than likely not. It'll be pivotal on what happens with Vesey.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 29 @ 12:21 AM ET
Are you sure enough to bet a potential lottery pick? I'm not saying don't make that bet, but not on Kane.
- CubanBuffet

Let the courts deal with Kane's off ice issue.

I would feel better with Kane as a 2 LH over Sven. I would feel much better with Sven at 3 LF

I also feel better with Gorges as the third pair over Sbisa. My own personal feeling is we would have a much more competitive team. I have no problem with moving a 15-20 overall for a tougher D and a reliable top 6 .

It is a gamble but very high reward very high risk. I am sure Benning and Linden have done their homework if there is any truth.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 29 @ 12:24 AM ET
I believe it's possible for sure. The team is supposed to be rebuilding but trading a 1st round pick for a 24 year old isn't that bad. It is only Evander Kane but it's probably the only thing they have ever to try and bring someone in for top 6 help.

I'd be a bit disappointed but I I don't believe this guy could possibly have all the details correct either. Even if it's true which its more than likely not. It'll be pivotal on what happens with Vesey.

- WhatTheNuck



Gorges in my opinion is head and shoulders above Sbisa and would bring leadership and toughness.

Kane would be a huge upgrade and we still have Sven.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 29 @ 12:26 AM ET
Gorges in my opinion is head and shoulders above Sbisa and would bring leadership and toughness.

Kane would be a huge upgrade and we still have Sven.

- VANTEL


There has to be another piece to make the salary fit though if that is even remotely possible.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 29 @ 12:27 AM ET
There has to be another piece to make the salary fit though if that is even remotely possible.
- WhatTheNuck

It would have to be First Sbisa and for Gorges Kane
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 29 @ 12:32 AM ET
TRADES

June 27, 2014: Traded Jason Garrison and Jeff Costello to the Tampa Bay Lightning for a second round pick in the 2014 Draft - fine with this!

June 27, 2014: Traded the 2014 3rd round pick to the New York Rangers for Derek Dorsett - fine with this!

June 27, 2014: Traded Ryan Kesler and a 2015 3rd round pick to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for Luca Sbisa, Nick Bonino and 1st and 3rd round picks in the 2014 Draft - given the circumstances fine with this!

June 28, 2014: Traded a 2nd round pick in 2014 to the Los Angeles Kings for Linden Vey - fine with this!

November 20, 2014: Traded Kellan Lain to the Edmonton Oilers in exchange for Will Acton - fine with this!

November 25, 2014: Traded Alexandre Mallet and a 3rd round pick in 2016 to the New York Islanders in exchange for Andrey Pedan - fine with this!

January 29, 2015: Traded Gustav Forsling to the Chicago Blackhawks for Adam Clendening - took a chance on Clendening fine with this!

March 2, 2015: Traded a 2nd round pick in 2015 to the Calgary Flames in exchange for Sven Baertschi - fine with this!

March 2, 2015: Traded Dustin Jeffrey to the New York Islanders in exchange for Cory Conacher - ????

June 27, 2015: Traded Eddie Lack to the Carolina Hurricanes for a 3rd and 7th round pick in the 2015 Entry Draft - fine with this!

June 27, 2015: Traded Patrick McNally to the San Jose Sharks in exchange for a 7th round pick in 2015 - ????

June 30, 2015: Traded Kevin Bieksa to the Anaheim Ducks for a 2nd round pick in 2016 - fine with this!

July 1, 2015: Traded Zack Kassian and a 5th round pick in 2016 to the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for Brandon Prust - would've liked to see more patience here but understand the move.

July 28, 2015: Traded Nick Bonino, Adam Clendening and a 2nd round pick in 2016 to the Pittsburgh Penguins for Brandon Sutter and a conditional 3rd round pick in 2016 - not happy with this move!

January 8, 2016: Traded Nicklas Jensen and a 7th round pick in 2017 to the New York Rangers for Emerson Etem - fine with this!

February 22, 2016: Trades Hunter Shinkaruk to the Calgary Flames in exchange for Markus Granlund - fine with this!

February 24, 2016: Canucks trade 5th pick in 2017 Draft to the Edmonton Oilers for D Philip Larsen - certainly fine with this!

May 25, 2016: Canucks trade Jared McCann, 2nd & 4th round picks to the Florida Panthers for Erik Gudbranson and a 5th round pick - although Gudbranson is a needed commodity I'm not happy with the payment here!
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jul 29 @ 12:33 AM ET
There has to be another piece to make the salary fit though if that is even remotely possible.
- WhatTheNuck


Until I see something from someone in the know like McKenzie or even Dreger, it's fake. That's pretty specific what was put out there and I can't see Murray or Benning wanting info like that out in public especially when the paperwork hasn't been sent to the league office.

It makes me suspect whoever @scandusa is, is either talking out of his ass to drum up more follows or else it's a troll that hacked the account. I agree, unless we're sending Sbisa or similiar dollars back, we can't fit both Georges and Kane and still be no more than 10% over the cap. We'd still have to trade Burrows then to make it work.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jul 29 @ 12:33 AM ET
Harkki @scanadusa
I work with Finnish TeleCastors as Information Reporter. http://www.finlandtimes.fi/sports Trust in Harkki.

The website above is legitimate. Apparently his tweets used to appear on "hockey press" .

"Harkki ‏@scanadusa Jul 22

Kane is being trade. Team has now clarity on legal situation, value back up. Vancouver make strongest offer. Is believe he is already traded


Harkki ‏@scanadusa 23h23 hours ago

Am told when Vesey make official sign to Buffalo, Evander Kane and Josh Gorges will be trade to Vancouver for first round pick.

Harkki ‏@scanadusa 23h23 hours ago

Am told Buffalo might be take non roster contract (Higgins? my addition) in deal as well, for buyout purpose- then trade round 1 pick for defenseman Fowler

Harkki ‏@scanadusa 23h23 hours ago

Much of this deal already negotiate and hand shake official. Is wait for July 17.

Harkki ‏@scanadusa 23h23 hours ago

Harkki added,
Ben Hubbard @BenHubb
@scanadusa you mean August

Harkki ‏@scanadusa 23h23 hours ago

Harkki Retweeted Ben Hubbard

Yes mean August. Mistake Benny Boy!

Harkki ‏@scanadusa 23h23 hours ago

Also told during negotiate Vancouver offer several forward in trade but Buffalo demand round 1 pick. Expect Vancouver trade forward next too"

- Retinalz

I wonder what the scouting report for next year is....theres been no hype this far so perhaps the 1st wont be a big loss?
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jul 29 @ 12:36 AM ET
Let the courts deal with Kane's off ice issue.

I would feel better with Kane as a 2 LH over Sven. I would feel much better with Sven at 3 LF

I also feel better with Gorges as the third pair over Sbisa. My own personal feeling is we would have a much more competitive team. I have no problem with moving a 15-20 overall for a tougher D and a reliable top 6 .

It is a gamble but very high reward very high risk. I am sure Benning and Linden have done their homework if there is any truth.

- VANTEL


Every trade has risk, obviously, but this would have two major ones:
1) that the first round pick isn't a lottery pick, or even in the top ten

2) that Kane can sort out his shlt

To much risk. Kane should be at a discount, and a first round pick is not a discount.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 29 @ 12:38 AM ET
TRADES

June 27, 2014: Traded Jason Garrison and Jeff Costello to the Tampa Bay Lightning for a second round pick in the 2014 Draft - fine with this!

June 27, 2014: Traded the 2014 3rd round pick to the New York Rangers for Derek Dorsett - fine with this!

June 27, 2014: Traded Ryan Kesler and a 2015 3rd round pick to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for Luca Sbisa, Nick Bonino and 1st and 3rd round picks in the 2014 Draft - given the circumstances fine with this!

June 28, 2014: Traded a 2nd round pick in 2014 to the Los Angeles Kings for Linden Vey - fine with this!

November 20, 2014: Traded Kellan Lain to the Edmonton Oilers in exchange for Will Acton - fine with this!

November 25, 2014: Traded Alexandre Mallet and a 3rd round pick in 2016 to the New York Islanders in exchange for Andrey Pedan - fine with this!

January 29, 2015: Traded Gustav Forsling to the Chicago Blackhawks for Adam Clendening - took a chance on Clendening fine with this!

March 2, 2015: Traded a 2nd round pick in 2015 to the Calgary Flames in exchange for Sven Baertschi - fine with this!

March 2, 2015: Traded Dustin Jeffrey to the New York Islanders in exchange for Cory Conacher - ????

June 27, 2015: Traded Eddie Lack to the Carolina Hurricanes for a 3rd and 7th round pick in the 2015 Entry Draft - fine with this!

June 27, 2015: Traded Patrick McNally to the San Jose Sharks in exchange for a 7th round pick in 2015 - ????

June 30, 2015: Traded Kevin Bieksa to the Anaheim Ducks for a 2nd round pick in 2016 - fine with this!

July 1, 2015: Traded Zack Kassian and a 5th round pick in 2016 to the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for Brandon Prust - would've liked to see more patience here but understand the move.

July 28, 2015: Traded Nick Bonino, Adam Clendening and a 2nd round pick in 2016 to the Pittsburgh Penguins for Brandon Sutter and a conditional 3rd round pick in 2016 - not happy with this move!

January 8, 2016: Traded Nicklas Jensen and a 7th round pick in 2017 to the New York Rangers for Emerson Etem - fine with this!

February 22, 2016: Trades Hunter Shinkaruk to the Calgary Flames in exchange for Markus Granlund - fine with this!

February 24, 2016: Canucks trade 5th pick in 2017 Draft to the Edmonton Oilers for D Philip Larsen - certainly fine with this!

May 25, 2016: Canucks trade Jared McCann, 2nd & 4th round picks to the Florida Panthers for Erik Gudbranson and a 5th round pick - although Gudbranson is a needed commodity I'm not happy with the payment here!

- LeftCoaster


13 fine with
1 not happy with.

Pretty good record.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 29 @ 12:41 AM ET
Every trade has risk, obviously, but this would have two major ones:
1) that the first round pick isn't a lottery pick, or even in the top ten

2) that Kane can sort out his shlt

To much risk. Kane should be at a discount, and a first round pick is not a discount.

- CubanBuffet

Acquiring Kane makes the team better but it in no way would give them a shot at a Cup so it'd be a stupid move IMO. Giving up a first for him I mean.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jul 29 @ 12:41 AM ET
Gorges plays a tough game . And Kane is Kane. I know more than half here think we will finish bottom 5 but I think we will draft 15-20
- VANTEL

I'd have to agree with this. Middle of the league or better, which is playoffs.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 29 @ 12:42 AM ET
13 fine with
1 not happy with.

Pretty good record.

- VANTEL

Mostly moves that he neither won nor lost so it's not really an impressive list. Just kinda blah. But I like that he was closing an age gap.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 29 @ 12:45 AM ET
Every trade has risk, obviously, but this would have two major ones:
1) that the first round pick isn't a lottery pick, or even in the top ten

2) that Kane can sort out his shlt

To much risk. Kane should be at a discount, and a first round pick is not a discount.

- CubanBuffet


I understand the worry but I don't see a roster that has very few holes if Gorges and Kane come here. Anything can happen but it would be a solid top 9 and still waiting for Boeser to come up next year.

I have heard Linden say they expect Lockwood to be a third line Hansen type player.

Like I said the other night this is not a sexy roster on paper, but none of know what exactly they have right now.
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