the team has medical staff to make it easier on everyone, available resources ready to treat common sports injuries who are dedicated to your treatment and recovery.
In most cases this would be/is better than general care anywhere else but when it comes to more serious cases, many athletes seek treatment from specialists from all over the world.
- vermie22

Through the team.

They're paying medical professionals to check their health and they said (and he agreed) that he was healthy before he went off and had surgery?
- burn

Give me a break, players play with conditions and or injuries all the time and then have off season surgery.

You're nuts, if he goes to a specialist and they recommend surgery, you think a team doctor can over rule that specialist?
- the_eye

He was medically cleared and wanted to play. What changed since then?

Medicalbuzz is such a hoot!

All this is assuming that the Leafs didn't know about said condition in the first place.
Willing to bet Ottawa also knew.
- the_eye

Huh?

He was on ir when aquired. So I think they knew?

Give me a break, players play with conditions and or injuries all the time and then have off season surgery.
- the_eye

And that matters how?

Huh?

He was on ir when aquired. So I think they knew?
- burn

Exactly...

Medically cleared for practice is totally different than medically cleared for a game.
- the_eye

Per Chris Johnston on February 26, 2016, Jared Cowen was activated from the Injured Reserve list by the Leafs.
https://twitter.com/repor...status/703248151327727616

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A Player placed on the Injured Reserve List will be ineligible to compete in NHL
Games for a period of not less than seven (7) days from the date of the injury, illness or disability for which the Player was placed on the Injured Reserve List. A Player will be eligible for activation to play in NHL Games beginning on the 8th day following the date of injury, illness or disability for which the Player was placed on the Injured Reserve List or any day thereafter that the Player is medically cleared to play by the Club physician. The Club must notify Central
Registry, the NHLPA and the Player, in accordance with Exhibit 3, of its intent to activate a Player who is on the Injured Reserve List, or to remove the designation of Injured Non-Roster, prior to the Player playing in an NHL Game by way of a verification signed by the Club physician, and countersigned by a Club executive, attached as Exhibit 28-B.

NHL CBA, pg. 104
http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en...12/NHL_NHLPA_2013_CBA.pdf

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Per Exhibit 28-B of the CBA, which as noted above is required to bring a player off IR:

It is my determination that as of this day ____________[date] the Player________________ (Player name) on_____________________(Club name) is not disabled and is able to perform his duties as an NHL hockey Player, which duties include playing in NHL Games.

Please activate the Player from Injured Reserve or remove his designation as Injured Non-Roster status, as appropriate.

Looks to me like he was on the road to recovery based simply on the fact he was taken off IR prior to the deadline.

Pg. 382 of the NHL CBA.

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Your move. Seems cut and dry to me.

All this is assuming that the Leafs didn't know about said condition in the first place.
Willing to bet Ottawa also knew.
- the_eye

Not relevant. He elected - based on a medical assessment which he personally got - outside of and without consulting team medical staff to get surgery - which circumvented a buyout. Why avoid this step unless you have something to hide? Does not matter who knew what - circumstances and avoidance here are not refutable.

Exactly...
- the_eye

So why the argument?

Exactly...
- the_eye

No, a team can acknowledge they are trading for an injured player and waive any grievances as a result.

Facts aren't supporting your arguments today. In order for a player to come off IR, the team physician (per my post above) certifies the player can return to NHL action, including practice and games.

So why the argument?


- burn

Cuz he wrong.

Medicalbuzz is such a hoot!
- Scabeh

who gives a poop about cowens surgery holy (frank) talk about something else already.

No, a team can acknowledge they are trading for an injured player and waive any grievances as a result.

Facts aren't supporting your arguments today. In order for a player to come off IR, the team physician (per my post above) certifies the player can return to NHL action, including practice and games.
- Deeps27

who gives a poop about cowens surgery holy (frank) talk about something else already.
- Tanooki

Happy one month HB anniversary?

Happy one month HB anniversary?
- Deeps27

thanks buddy!

Not relevant. He elected - based on a medical assessment which he personally got - outside of and without consulting team medical staff to get surgery - which circumvented a buyout. Why avoid this step unless you have something to hide? Does not matter who knew what - circumstances and avoidance here are not refutable.
- winsix

We know he was injured/unfit to play when acquired

We know that he was cleared to play, and wanted to play before the season ended

We know the team admitted to wanting to buyout the player

We know he went and had surgery without consulting the team



I don't think he has much of a leg to stand on

We know he was injured/unfit to play when acquired

We know that he was cleared to play, and wanted to play before the season ended

We know the team admitted to wanting to buyout the player

We know he went and had surgery without consulting the team



I don't think he has much of a leg to stand on
- burn

I'm pretty sure the surgery was on his hip.

We know he was injured/unfit to play when acquired

We know that he was cleared to play, and wanted to play before the season ended

We know the team admitted to wanting to buyout the player

We know he went and had surgery without consulting the team



I don't think he has much of a leg to stand on
- burn

who gives a poop about cowens surgery holy (frank) talk about something else already.
- Tanooki

OK Lets

You had a problem with my avatar - didn't like or see this movie?

I'm pretty sure the surgery was on his hip.
- Cfser

Come on man... A little leeway? Creative license?

Come on man... A little leeway? Creative license?
- burn

Tough crowd

I gotta be honest, if I'm Lou and Co. I take my post 8th from the top of this page, print it, hand it to the Arbitrator and walk out of the room.

Case closed.

NHL front offices obviously make trades based on info on this site, why not arbitration hearings too?