Do Bonino and Soderberg actually have the same underlying numbers over the past three seasons?

Bonino's underlying numbers weren't stellar for his career as of the time of us acquiring him. Which feeds into my argument that his usage is inflating his stats.
- Victoro311

Simple stats pretty similar. Don't know about hero chart.

soderberg
73 16 32 48
82 13 31 44

bonino
77 22 27 49
75 15 24 39

Looks even to me. Bonio was the better goal scorer by 8 goals over 2 years. Soderberg had 4 more points. soderberg also played in 3 more games. So simple stats slightly favor bonino. But pretty identical.

Bonino had slow start with Pens but everyone sucked. Then extremely strong playoffs. Bonino seems like a high character guy (playing really sick in stanley cup) so dont' think soderberg has edge there. I don't know about shot suppression, but bonino passed my eye test as a PK guy.

I would agree his usage may distort boninos stats. I wouldn't pay him like the .75 ppg player he was in the playoffs which is a 6 to 6.5 a year center. But if we can afford him as a premium 3C which is 4.5 then I would sign him.

Simple stats pretty similar. Don't know about hero chart.

soderberg
73 16 32 48
82 13 31 44

bonino
77 22 27 49
75 15 24 39

Looks even to me. Bonio was the better goal scorer by 8 goals over 2 years. Soderberg had 4 more points. soderberg also played in 3 more games. So simple stats slightly favor bonino. But pretty identical.

Bonino had slow start with Pens but everyone sucked. Then extremely strong playoffs. Bonino seems like a high character guy (playing really sick in stanley cup) so dont' think soderberg has edge there. I don't know about shot suppression, but bonino passed my eye test as a PK guy.

I would agree his usage may distort boninos stats. I wouldn't pay him like the .75 ppg player he was in the playoffs which is a 6 to 6.5 a year center. But if we can afford him as a premium 3C which is 4.5 then I would sign him.
- sditulli

Soderberg's shot suppression is better than Bones' but Bones' offensive analytics are better and have been constant for the last 3 years or so.

Soderberg's shot suppression is better than Bones' but Bones' offensive analytics are better and have been constant for the last 3 years or so.
- j.boyd919

Yes so I think soderberg is a nearly perfect fit for modeling boninos next deal. Soderberg signed his at age 29. Bonino will be 29 when he is UFA next year. Soderberg signed for 5 years 23.75 (4.75 per year). Add in two years of cap inflation and 5 years 25 seems about as fair of market I can come up for him.

Slight discount if we didn't have the expansion draft and signed him this offseason. Player removes the risks that he has a career ending injury this year. So then 5 years at 4.5/year would seem fair (500k discount/year for not making him risks injury during the season).