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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 27 @ 2:45 PM ET
Congratulations. That's awesome. Being a Father is the best thing you'll ever do!
- MJL


Thank you sir.

I always thought it would be winning an argument on hockeybuzz, but I realize now that is not the case
edmac812
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dry Island, PA
Joined: 12.31.2006

Jul 27 @ 2:46 PM ET
no doubt. great read and great points.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 27 @ 2:47 PM ET
Thank you sir.

I always thought it would be winning an argument on hockeybuzz, but I realize now that is not the case

- YuenglingJagr


Congrats on successfully spreading your seed.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 27 @ 2:48 PM ET
Speaking of. Not sure if anyone has seen, but thought it was cool.

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 27 @ 2:50 PM ET
Speaking of. Not sure if anyone has seen, but thought it was cool.


- flyer_nutter


that is awesome
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 27 @ 2:52 PM ET
Bill is pissed.
- Scoob


"I found the article to be a trite, strained...pompous, pedantic, lazy and, flat out wrong..."

What gave it away?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 27 @ 2:54 PM ET
that is awesome
- YuenglingJagr


It's actually quite sad. It was Lundqvist who impreganted her. Reimer is just a wussy so he's raising the kid as his own.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 27 @ 2:58 PM ET
I am the only one here who keeps forgetting about Phillip Myers?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 27 @ 2:59 PM ET
It's actually quite sad. It was Lundqvist who impreganted her. Reimer is just a wussy so he's raising the kid as his own.
- Mononoke


hasnt lundqvist impregnated us all at one point or another?
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 27 @ 2:59 PM ET
I am the only one here who keeps forgetting about Phillip Myers?
- roenick97


yes
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 27 @ 3:00 PM ET
as long as you don't count the money Carle is making from the buyout... sure!
- Doc_Sarcasm


Carle can live on 2.5 mil I bet

and I had to laugh when I checked general fanager and saw Vinny will be collecting a check until 2027.

Ok I'll cry though... Bryz also until 2027
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 27 @ 3:04 PM ET
Thank you sir.

I always thought it would be winning an argument on hockeybuzz, but I realize now that is not the case

- YuenglingJagr


Yea, you're wrong about that!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 27 @ 3:11 PM ET
Carle can live on 2.5 mil I bet

and I had to laugh when I checked general fanager and saw Vinny will be collecting a check until 2027.

Ok I'll cry though... Bryz also until 2027

- dragonoffrost


They are still getting 2/3 of what they would have been paid...so all is not lost
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jul 27 @ 3:14 PM ET
Carle can live on 2.5 mil I bet

and I had to laugh when I checked general fanager and saw Vinny will be collecting a check until 2027.

Ok I'll cry though... Bryz also until 2027

- dragonoffrost


When does Mike Rathje come off the books?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 27 @ 3:14 PM ET
I am the only one here who keeps forgetting about Phillip Myers?
- roenick97


Maybe. So far the top 10 in the Prospect polls on HFB are:

1. Provorov, Ivan (88%)
2. Sanheim, Travis (75%)
3. Konecny, Travis (85%)
4. Morin, Sam (54%)
5. Rubtsov, German (79%)
6. Myers, Phil (56%)
7. Lindblom, Oskar (54%)
8. Laberge, Pascal (68%)
9. Aube-Kubel, Nicolas (63%)
10. Allison, Wade (44%)
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 27 @ 3:14 PM ET
hasnt lundqvist impregnated us all at one point or another?
- YuenglingJagr


If your baby has his facial hair, then you know it's his. Just like in Game of Thrones...that's how it went didn't it?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 27 @ 3:16 PM ET
I am the only one here who keeps forgetting about Phillip Myers?
- roenick97


we have a team of people working here to ensure that doesnt happen
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 27 @ 3:16 PM ET
Excellent blog, Bill.

Over the years, I've found myself liking and respecting Ken Dryden less and less. There's no question that he is exceptionally intelligent. I think his problem is that as he has aged, he no longer questions his intelligence and simply accepts his first impression as gospel.


I have to say, for the most part (except for his take-down of the Flyers), I really enjoyed reading "The Game".

At the same time, I thought he came off as somewhat tormented and insecure, and it occurred to me that if I were building a hockey team, I might be inclined to look for a goalie who was happy-go-lucky and not overly bright.

- Doc_Sarcasm


All of this.

I read "The Game" many years ago and liked it.

But Dryden has always been a smug bumhole, so this sort of article doesn't surprise me. Anytime I encounter an article or show that features Dryden's takes on anything, i just roll my eyes.

Did Dryden posit on how the 1976 Flyers beat the Russians and how the Canadians could only tie them?
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 27 @ 3:26 PM ET
yes
- bulet13

Liar!
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 27 @ 3:35 PM ET
Maybe. So far the top 10 in the Prospect polls on HFB are:

1. Provorov, Ivan (88%)
2. Sanheim, Travis (75%)
3. Konecny, Travis (85%)
4. Morin, Sam (54%)
5. Rubtsov, German (79%)
6. Myers, Phil (56%)
7. Lindblom, Oskar (54%)
8. Laberge, Pascal (68%)
9. Aube-Kubel, Nicolas (63%)
10. Allison, Wade (44%)

- Feanor


At some point you have to wonder if Hextall pulls the trigger on a deal with one of these defensive prospects for a top 6 forward prospect. I expect Rubtsov and Konecny to be two very good players but I want a top a top 10 point producer before Giroux's career is over. If it's realistic for the Penguins, Capitals, Lightning, Islanders or Stars, why not us?
twpguy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2010

Jul 27 @ 3:39 PM ET
The ONLY reason people like Dryden, and alot of opposing fanbases , Talk "Broad Street Bullies" Is jealousy plain and simple. Flyers had a skill level, grit, toughness and a work ethic that wasn't matched during that era !!!!
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Jul 27 @ 3:41 PM ET
Maybe. So far the top 10 in the Prospect polls on HFB are:

1. Provorov, Ivan (88%)
2. Sanheim, Travis (75%)
3. Konecny, Travis (85%)
4. Morin, Sam (54%)
5. Rubtsov, German (79%)
6. Myers, Phil (56%)
7. Lindblom, Oskar (54%)
8. Laberge, Pascal (68%)
9. Aube-Kubel, Nicolas (63%)
10. Allison, Wade (44%)

- Feanor


Allison is a name I could see sky rocket up this list over the next couple years. I heard an extended interview with him after he was drafted. Has a very mature head on his shoulders and looks to have the physical tools to be an impact player.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jul 27 @ 3:42 PM ET
At some point you have to wonder if Hextall pulls the trigger on a deal with one of these defensive prospects for a top 6 forward prospect. I expect Rubtsov and Konecny to be two very good players but I want a top a top 10 point producer before Giroux's career is over. If it's realistic for the Penguins, Capitals, Lightning, Islanders or Stars, why not us?
- roenick97


2014-2015 says HI!

Cek out number 4
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 27 @ 3:45 PM ET
2014-2015 says HI!

Cek out number 4

- dragonoffrost


Is that how many goals he scored this year?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 27 @ 3:46 PM ET
Allison is a name I could see sky rocket up this list over the next couple years. I heard an extended interview with him after he was drafted. Has a very mature head on his shoulders and looks to have the physical tools to be an impact player.
- Baxter27


It'd be nice for him to have a great year in college and then see him in the AHL next season.
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