His G/60, FirstA/60,PrimaryP/60 have all improved steadily over the years. However, his Corsi is very erratic. Would like to see what a year with an NHL Dman beside him results in. That's why I say a bridge deal for Ceci would work well.
- MaxTLimit

See this is a great post/response.

See this is a great post/response.
- Feds91Stammer

Yeah I agree with all that, but he is only 22 and corsi ratios don't mean much for a young player as it is often developped a little later in their careers. Being aside Phaneuf this year will undboutedly improve his corsi. In addition, looking at productions rates and plus minuses for Ceci comparable to your god, Hedman, place Ceci equal to him in his relative development. Looking at 3rd seasons for each players, ceci had 26 points in 75 games (playing alongside a poopty dmate) and +9, while Hedman had 23 points in 61 gamesa and - 9. So to assume, there is zero chances he will develop in a better player is extremely moronic.

Congrats on getting him signed and to the deal he signed.

Nothing worse than losing one of your own players that you worked at developing and especially a player you found in the 5th round.

Great deal for the team as you get him for all of his prime years and he will be turning 31 when it comes time for his next deal, at which point you can decide not to resign him.

Ceci is already better than Dekeyser, has nothing to do with current player's contribution to the team it has to do with potential down the line. Ceci's potential is sky high, while Dekeyser probably reached his potential already.
- PtotheY

Ceci is a very good solid player and does all the basics really ywell. his offensive production would be a little higher if he did not play behind Karlsson and had more chance for a few minutes on the power play. My guess is Ottawa locks him in at $27m over 6 years.

Ceci is a very good solid player and does all the basics really ywell. his offensive production would be a little higher if he did not play behind Karlsson and had more chance for a few minutes on the power play. My guess is Ottawa locks him in at $27m over 6 years.
- spatso

Amen!

Yeah I agree with all that, but he is only 22 and corsi ratios don't mean much for a young player as it is often developped a little later in their careers. Being aside Phaneuf this year will undboutedly improve his corsi. In addition, looking at productions rates and plus minuses for Ceci comparable to your god, Hedman, place Ceci equal to him in his relative development. Looking at 3rd seasons for each players, ceci had 26 points in 75 games (playing alongside a poopty dmate) and +9, while Hedman had 23 points in 61 gamesa and - 9. So to assume, there is zero chances he will develop in a better player is extremely moronic.
- PtotheY

Both Edmonton and Tampa made a pitch for Ceci. The people who matter know he is very good.

Both Edmonton and Tampa made a pitch for Ceci. The people who matter know he is very good.
- spatso

To be fair, Edm's made a pitch for every dman playing in north America.

Yeah I agree with all that, but he is only 22 and corsi ratios don't mean much for a young player as it is often developped a little later in their careers. Being aside Phaneuf this year will undboutedly improve his corsi. In addition, looking at productions rates and plus minuses for Ceci comparable to your god, Hedman, place Ceci equal to him in his relative development. Looking at 3rd seasons for each players, ceci had 26 points in 75 games (playing alongside a poopty dmate) and +9, while Hedman had 23 points in 61 gamesa and - 9. So to assume, there is zero chances he will develop in a better player is extremely moronic.
- PtotheY

Corsi is best used for small samples so in Ceci's case corsi is very relevant.

Yeah I agree with all that, but he is only 22 and corsi ratios don't mean much for a young player as it is often developped a little later in their careers. Being aside Phaneuf this year will undboutedly improve his corsi. In addition, looking at productions rates and plus minuses for Ceci comparable to your god, Hedman, place Ceci equal to him in his relative development. Looking at 3rd seasons for each players, ceci had 26 points in 75 games (playing alongside a poopty dmate) and +9, while Hedman had 23 points in 61 gamesa and - 9. So to assume, there is zero chances he will develop in a better player is extremely moronic.
- PtotheY

Hedman has had VERY good underlying stats for his career. The idea that Hedman and Karlsson will likely play for Sweden together scares the hell out of me for international play.

I wouldn't go comparing Ceci to Hedman. That being said, Sens aren't expecting Ceci to be Hedman. Sens have their top pairing RD.

Ceci will either sign a 2 year bridge under $3m cap hit OR long term (5/6 years @4m or so) ...... like a Maata

Great signing by Dorion. Very reasonable cap hit for a 25-30 goal scorer and the 4 year term is excellent for a 26 year old. I'm impressed!

Ceci will either sign a 2 year bridge under $3m cap hit OR long term (5/6 years @4m or so) ...... like a Maata
- AlfieisKing

Lets make things interesting
Maatta > Ceci

Lets make things interesting
Maatta > Ceci
- DeflatedPucks

That is debatable after Maatta's play this past season. Dude looks like his skates are full of cement. SLOW FEET.

That is debatable after Maatta's play this past season. Dude looks like his skates are full of cement. SLOW FEET.
- Feds91Stammer

His offense definitely took a backseat this past year, but I give him the benefit because of shoulder surgery, cancer, mumps, etc all taking place recently. Sullivan didn't necessarily trust him this postseason but im sure that will change. But his rookie season was spectacular

His offense definitely took a backseat this past year, but I give him the benefit because of shoulder surgery, cancer, mumps, etc all taking place recently. Sullivan didn't necessarily trust him this postseason but im sure that will change. But his rookie season was spectacular
- DeflatedPucks

Yeah I just remember seeing him get blown by by I believe Miller and Oshie during the playoffs. I do know his shoulder injury hurt his offseason training last year.

I thought Ceci had pretty bad underlying numbers from an advanced stats standpoint?
- ClarksonDavid

He came into the league at 20 years old and his three most common d partners have been Wiercoch,Boro and Cowen ,of course the numbers on him look bad
The eye test says something totally different ,as well as his numbers with and actual nhl calibre defender in Phaneuf

Potential is great and all but there is 0 certainty he will get better.
- Feds91Stammer

His point totals have risen the each season with the team giving him more ice/PP time.

He certainly is getting better and at 22 most players continue to improve. He's not a star by any means but again he's young and certainly looks to be a promising T4D.

The Dekeyser contract sucks IMO. Anyone who thinks that guy is #1 D man has been drinking for days. Also don't like it because it helps Ceci's agent drive up the salary demands. I am hoping for a two year bridge deal at 3-3.5 per.

Amazing signing for amazing value. I would have liked longer like 6 years but the money, I thought he would get more.

Now sign Ceci and go get a 1C

Hedman has had VERY good underlying stats for his career. The idea that Hedman and Karlsson will likely play for Sweden together scares the hell out of me for international play.

I wouldn't go comparing Ceci to Hedman. That being said, Sens aren't expecting Ceci to be Hedman. Sens have their top pairing RD.
- MaxTLimit

I am not expecting Ceci to evolve to Hedman's level. I was simply stating that stats place them in a similar realm. And numbers don't lie. Ceci is 22 years old and will eventually become first pairing material and the scouts across do see that potential in him. Potential is never 100% but he has as much potential as one can have at this point in time to crack first pairing caliber.

That is debatable after Maatta's play this past season. Dude looks like his skates are full of cement. SLOW FEET.
- Feds91Stammer

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They are acutally very comparable players IMO. Maata is a hell of a D.

I am not expecting Ceci to evolve to Hedman's level. I was simply stating that stats place them in a similar realm. And numbers don't lie. Ceci is 22 years old and will eventually become first pairing material and the scouts across do see that potential in him. Potential is never 100% but he has as much potential as one can have at this point in time to crack first pairing caliber.
- PtotheY

Still...don't do it. It makes my imagination run wild with the fantasy of what Hedman and Karlsson could do for the Sens if they played together.

I wonder if this means a deal is immanent?( or at least close ):

The #Sens are holding discussions with Cody Ceci's agent J.P. Barry on a two-year deal.
- Bruce Garrioch ‏@SunGarrioch 3m3 minutes ago

Ottawa is going to make a trade, saying you are all in doesn't mean you stop there. I don't think it will be until the deadline but Ottawa is waiting in the weeds and if they add the right type of forward and Anderson is playing solid, they could be a very very dangerous team.

Not an amzaing forward group, but solid everywhere and if they add one more special player in the top 3 (Ducheses, Landeskog, Hall, Johansen, Voraceck) they would have excellent balance.

They'd have everything they need to win.

Ottawa is going to make a trade, saying you are all in doesn't mean you stop there. I don't think it will be until the deadline but Ottawa is waiting in the weeds and if they add the right type of forward and Anderson is playing solid, they could be a very very dangerous team.

Not an amzaing forward group, but solid everywhere and if they add one more special player in the top 3 (Ducheses, Landeskog, Hall, Johansen, Voraceck) they would have excellent balance.

They'd have everything they need to win.
- tuna99

How do you plan on doing that?

How do you plan on doing that?
- Feds91Stammer

Move the joystick to "confirm trade" and hit A

How do you plan on doing that?
- Feds91Stammer

I'd assume by moving packages including draft picks and prospects while adding depth roster players. However, I've not seen or heard anything about that. I have read that the Sens are trying to add to their defense depth. I would guess at adding some insurance to the left side. Someone mentioned they have their eyes on another local guy ( sadly, I can't recall where I read it ). The names I came up with for the left side were Eric Gelinas, Calvin DeHaan and Ben Hutton. DeHaan is unlikely. The other two aren't exactly going to revolutionize the D corps either. I dunno. I don't see a lot changing. I'd still like to add a known quality RW to fill out the top 9. I'm willing to see what Smith is like as a #3LW...but I think he is moved some time this year.