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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 27 @ 1:45 PM ET
I think it all depends - who is to say that Kane will get his act together? How long do you think Murray is going to remain patient? at some point Kane is going to outstay his welcome (again, unless he really gets his act together - which is easier said than done). Imagine if he gets involved with some further shenanigans in the next little while - do you think he'll have ANY value left? even right now I think he could be had for much less than Buffalo would ultimately like to receive. The kid's value is only as good as is perceived by the market and right now the market is very low on this kid. If there are further problems Buffalo will want to get rid of him at any cost
- Zogg


I know this is the off-season but this is getting pretty sensationalized.

As far as Kane's legal issues and arrest, it is still in it's infancy and seems to be pretty minor compared to other guys like ROR, Stoll, Richards, Kane (patty) at the time they were accused let alone when some were actually found/ admitted guilty.

Is Kane (evander) a douchebag? perhaps but I don't think his value to Buffalo or the market has plummeted all of a sudden. It might well dip once the actual facts come out but it is mostly all conjecture at this point. Much like Patty Kane was last summer. Do you remember the ridiculous trade proposals thrown around for him?

Murray paid a lot to get Kane, and they aren't in a position where they need to get him off the books or roster yet. I doubt he sells him at a discount.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 27 @ 1:46 PM ET
I think he has an attitude/ego/maturity issue, but really overblown. This is Evander Kane, not Patrick Kane he of several serious legal incidents.

Here is his list of issues in Winnipeg: http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...-indiscretions-with-jets/

Basically, people didnt like him trying to get paid for tweets, showing off his money stacks on twitter, one alleged incident in Vancouver, and suspicion around his injuries. Add in his current misdemeanor arrest and he pales in comparison to other "troubled" athletes, with most of these issues maturity based or generated from what appear to be easily offended individuals. If he can spend as much time as he does in Vegas, New York and LA without incident, I am starting to think its a small market thing (ie Winnipeg/Buffalo)

EDIT: ...Which Noel is quoted in the link as mentioning regarding the move from Atlanta to Winnipeg

- WhiteLie

belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 27 @ 1:54 PM ET
http://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/why-olli-juolevi-still-hasnt-signed-with-the-canucks

On Juolevi.

- LeftCoaster


Thanks for sharing.

I thought I would include this from the article as some earlier had been confused of how the Bonuses can work.

Schedule-B bonuses the team and the player can negotiate (maximum total is US$2 million per year)
1. Finishing in the top five for Hart, Norris, Selke and Richard.
2. Finishing in the top three for Calder and Lady Byng.
3. Making the first- or second-team all-star group.
4. Winning the Conn Smythe.
5. Finishing in the top 10 among defencemen in goals, assists or points.
6. Finishing in the top 10 in points-per-game (must play 42 games).
7. Finishing in the top 10 in average time-on-ice (must play 42 games).
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 27 @ 1:57 PM ET
I think he has an attitude/ego/maturity issue, but really overblown. This is Evander Kane, not Patrick Kane he of several serious legal incidents.

Here is his list of issues in Winnipeg: http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...-indiscretions-with-jets/

Basically, people didnt like him trying to get paid for tweets, showing off his money stacks on twitter, one alleged incident in Vancouver, and suspicion around his injuries. Add in his current misdemeanor arrest and he pales in comparison to other "troubled" athletes, with most of these issues maturity based or generated from what appear to be easily offended individuals. If he can spend as much time as he does in Vegas, New York and LA without incident, I am starting to think its a small market thing (ie Winnipeg/Buffalo)

EDIT: ...Which Noel is quoted in the link as mentioning regarding the move from Atlanta to Winnipeg

- WhiteLie

So bottom line, hes a douche, not a criminal, and douches are allowed to play in the nhl and be good players so why wouldn't we want him
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 27 @ 2:07 PM ET
So bottom line, hes a douche, not a criminal, and douches are allowed to play in the nhl and be good players so why wouldn't we want him
- NorthNuck


I think what truly is getting overblown by all of this is that he isn't that great of a player yet.

He might still become a dominant power forward and is a pretty effective intimidating player but doesn't actually put up a lot of points compared to how much ice time and shots he takes.

He got a lot of cushy ice time including prime PP opportunities in both WPG and Buf last year.

His GF/GA ratio was brutal considering how much time he was deployed in the offensive end.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jul 27 @ 2:08 PM ET
Hi,

My breakdown of Trevor's radio appearance from Tuesday, with thoughts on Kane, Miler, Virtanen, Tryamkin and Juolevi, in the new blog:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...-for-New-Season/194/78376
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