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Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jul 26 @ 8:03 PM ET
Well it was an opinion, so I don't know how I can be incorrect. I agree also about Tanner's comments. Lewis comments were worse simply because his comments showed that he has no real knowledge of Schenn as a player. It reinforces my belief that most hockey commentators comment from afar, and basically make it up.
- MJL



Dude.. its me. I was joking. Crap is crap, it doesnt matter who posted it first. I *thought* that Tanner's crap was worse than Lewis' crap.. but I'm not really saying that you are incorrect.


Edit: maybe there should've been an emoji in there somewhere.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 26 @ 8:04 PM ET
Dude.. its me. I was joking. Crap is crap, it doesnt matter who posted it first. I *thought* that Tanner's crap was worse than Lewis' crap.. but I'm not really saying that you are incorrect.
- Doc_Sarcasm


I don't think what you said about Tanner is incorrect either!
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 26 @ 8:05 PM ET

- Jsaquella


Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 26 @ 8:19 PM ET
Yeah, I am fully on board with analytics. But production is important as well. And yes possession is an important thing to consider. So is usage. Killorn gets somewhat easier usage than Schenn, which can impact the shot metrics.
- Jsaquella


Tanner is a dumb ass when it comes to the analytics. He's the guy in class who masquerades as haughty and intelligent but flunks every exam. He's who people who hate analytics use as a stereotype.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 26 @ 8:22 PM ET
I think the Flyers are going to be a solid team this year, and there might even be some competition in camp for a few spots.
- MJL


I like our top 6. Since 2012 we can all agree we have stability in net. I'm not expecting Ivan Provorov to step in and be our official number one defenseman but should he make the team, this should be the beginning of the Flyers turnaround. I'm just hoping that as a group, we take positive steps forward.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 26 @ 8:45 PM ET
I like our top 6. Since 2012 we can all agree we have stability in net. I'm not expecting Ivan Provorov to step in and be our official number one defenseman but should he make the team, this should be the beginning of the Flyers turnaround. I'm just hoping that as a group, we take positive steps forward.
- roenick97


I need provorov to make this team. I can't do the amacs, streits, schultzs much longer
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 26 @ 8:49 PM ET
I need provorov to make this team. I can't do the amacs, streits, schultzs much longer
- Just5


It's gonna be a long year for you
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 26 @ 8:55 PM ET
It's gonna be a long year for you
- ob18


If it were up to you, Ghost would be back in the AHL this year.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 26 @ 8:55 PM ET
I need provorov to make this team. I can't do the amacs, streits, schultzs much longer
- Just5


almost as exciting as analytics.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 26 @ 8:57 PM ET
If it were up to you, Ghost would be back in the AHL this year.
- Mononoke


No, I said he had to earn his place & he did, same goes with Provorov.........he has only earned the right to complete for a roster spot not to have it just handed to him.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 26 @ 8:58 PM ET
I need provorov to make this team. I can't do the amacs, streits, schultzs much longer
- Just5


Ivan Provorov is going to terrorize the CHL for one more year and force them to rename their season ending trophies after him.

All of them.


Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 26 @ 9:14 PM ET
No, I said he had to earn his place & he did, same goes with Provorov.........he has only earned the right to complete for a roster spot not to have it just handed to him.
- ob18


Who said he will be handed a spot? Ivan Provorov is going to come in and take it -- and leave a slew of emotionally damaged, poopty bottom pairing defensemen in his wake.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 26 @ 9:18 PM ET
Who said he will be handed a spot? Ivan Provorov is going to come in and take it -- and leave a slew of emotionally damaged, poopty bottom pairing defensemen in his wake.
- Mononoke


Ivan Provorov will demoralize all current Flyers defensemen at training camp.

But he will allow them to keep their miserable careers going for one more year while he forces the Canadian Junior Hockey cognoscenti to acknowledge his greatness.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 26 @ 9:36 PM ET
almost as exciting as analytics.
- flyer_nutter


He's my #1 HERO
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 26 @ 10:12 PM ET
Tanner is a dumb ass when it comes to the analytics. He's the guy in class who masquerades as haughty and intelligent but flunks every exam. He's who people who hate analytics use as a stereotype.
- Mononoke


I've read his blogs maybe three or four times and found it to be drivel in each case.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 27 @ 1:57 AM ET
I need provorov to make this team. I can't do the amacs, streits, schultzs much longer
- Just5

I feel exactly the same.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 27 @ 8:50 AM ET
Something to think about this season is that if the Flyers do no re-sign MDZ they will have an open protection slot on defense for the expansion draft. There could be an opportunity to take advantage of a team like the Wild who have more than four dmen worth protecting.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 27 @ 9:02 AM ET
Ugh, it's not even August yet, let alone September.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 27 @ 9:03 AM ET
I need provorov to make this team. I can't do the amacs, streits, schultzs much longer
- Just5

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 27 @ 9:04 AM ET
Something to think about this season is that if the Flyers do no re-sign MDZ they will have an open protection slot on defense for the expansion draft. There could be an opportunity to take advantage of a team like the Wild who have more than four dmen worth protecting.
- Feanor


Interesting, but with Ghost and Gudas on the team for the forseeable future, and Provorov, Morin, Sanheim, Hagg, and Myers all in the pipeline, do we really want to put cap dollars towards acquiring Dmen?

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 27 @ 9:06 AM ET

- BiggE



I know what Hextall has said but I just don't see him not making the team unless he is terrible.

He dominated in juniors and unlike most players that jump to the NHL I think he is mentally and physically strong enough for the jump.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 27 @ 9:10 AM ET
Interesting, but with Ghost and Gudas on the team for the forseeable future, and Provorov, Morin, Sanheim, Hagg, and Myers all in the pipeline, do we really want to put cap dollars towards acquiring Dmen?
- BiggE


Another righty would be nice to have. Florida look like they will have to expose Pysyk and Petrovic, and they will both be cheaper to sign than MDZ.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 27 @ 9:11 AM ET
Ugh, it's not even August yet, let alone September.

- BiggE


Enjoy these posts now, they grow up so fast
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 27 @ 9:12 AM ET
Interesting, but with Ghost and Gudas on the team for the forseeable future, and Provorov, Morin, Sanheim, Hagg, and Myers all in the pipeline, do we really want to put cap dollars towards acquiring Dmen?
- BiggE


There's a good chance that, at most, 2 or 3 of Provorov/Morin/Sanheim/Hagg/Myers ever turn out to be reliable top-4/top-6 NHL defensemen, so adding a known good, short-term at least, isn't a horrible thing. And if you do have 4 of them turn out, there's always a market for skilled, young defensemen that we could use to supplement other areas.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 27 @ 9:14 AM ET
I know what Hextall has said but I just don't see him not making the team unless he is terrible.

He dominated in juniors and unlike most players that jump to the NHL I think he is mentally and physically strong enough for the jump.

- J35Bacher


Unless he shows in camp/preseason that he can make the team better this year (which he most likely can, will is another matter), there's no reason to start burning that ELC. I think we all agree that he's ready to turn pro, but he has to come into camp and force Hextall to keep him. Were there no salary cap, he'd be a lock for the team.
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