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PlatosRepucklic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #TradeMarner
Joined: 11.07.2015

Jul 26 @ 12:25 PM ET
From What I remember Upton always hits well against the Jays, More-so from his days in TB than any. Curious to know what his career numbers are in the Jays park.....
- vancity787

Career numbers at Rogers Center

.277/.354/.437 in 55 games.

That's all from his time in Tampa though when he was at his best.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 26 @ 12:26 PM ET
I think the strategy is not to over pay for pitching and try to out score teams.
You give up some defense by having Upton in centre, but not much. But you add power and keep Bautista in right and Encarnacion as DH.

- Rang


Why not keep Pillar in centre, Upton in right = Big upgrade in the field

Have Edwin play first and Jose DH = Most power and best bats in line up.

Upton's bat and base running is superior to Smoak's.

Even if Smoak's D is better than Edwin's, what you're get from the above is more than worth it, in fact, it's not even close. [/img]
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 26 @ 12:27 PM ET
Career numbers at Rogers Center

.277/.354/.437 in 55 games.

That's all from his time in Tampa though when he was at his best.

- PlatosRepucklic


He's also very familiar with the AL East teams and parks, so his comfort level should be there pretty much from the start.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 26 @ 12:32 PM ET
Will they really?

They're at 59M right now, 13M under the cap and that's including a 7,5M cap hit not really paid to Datsyuk....

I guess time will tell but I'd be scared of them having to trade a good player because the owners don't want to spend enough.

- Scabeh


How can they spend? They have the lowest ticket prices in the NHL and they are 29th in attendance. Their give away ticket deals are stupid, tickets, dinner and drinks for $100 etc. for a family of four. They will be trading any respectable player as soon as they need to pay him - same as Tampa Rays in MLB.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 26 @ 12:33 PM ET
I want a Leaf to win the Calder. Discuss.
- BestRapperAlive

When the season is over, i think they can assign Matthews to the Marlies to win the Calder Cup.
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jul 26 @ 12:34 PM ET
When the season is over, i think they can assign Matthews to the Marlies to win the Calder Cup.
- AdamFrench


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winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 26 @ 12:39 PM ET
I like:

strome
domi
duclair
rieder
__
Samuelsson (meh)
Merkley (meh)
Perlini (ok)
deangelo (so-so)
dvorak (so-so)

add in keller and chychrun and that's 2 more high end prospects.



what a weird team if u look at their defense they have 9 guys signed this year and 2 RFA's in stone and murphy


- Lucas.Neilson


Solid young prospects soon to be players elsewhere geographically when owners move the team.
Rang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2006

Jul 26 @ 12:39 PM ET
Why not keep Pillar in centre, Upton in right = Big upgrade in the field

Have Edwin play first and Jose DH = Most power and best bats in line up.

Upton's bat and base running is superior to Smoak's.

Even if Smoak's D is better than Edwin's, what you're get from the above is more than worth it, in fact, it's not even close.

- As_I_See_It[/img]


Comes down to Pillar's bat which is just OK. I like the idea of power through the lineup, I think it wears pitchers down mentally.
Let's see what Gibby thinks tonight.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Jul 26 @ 12:40 PM ET
the jays are only paying 5 mil if the 22 owed to upton?

geez..hard to not like the upgrades for that price

- senstroll

Yup at that price it's a very good deal for the Jay's.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jul 26 @ 12:46 PM ET
What i dont understand is why can people from NATO volunteer to go fight these peices of poop? Instead of having to join the Kurds or some poop?

Its gonna get a whole lot worse before it gets better, but it will get better.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


I believe it works that because the last time the US tried arming a resistance force... think back to Afghanistan in the Russian invasion error. That lead to just about everything that's going wrong in the region now.

Hence Nato guys with their weapons being sent in.

I would prefer if there was greater involvement from countries such as India, Pakistan and of course the financial powerhouses such as Saudi and the other oil producers.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 26 @ 12:49 PM ET
The one where he massacred the Rays' second baseman!??!?!


- markmark


Losing that game was a piss off, that having been said, speed does not equate to being a good base runner.

Pillar is fast - terrible base runner. The only thing worse than his base running skills is his plate discipline. Remember the triple play last year with two guys on third?

Bautista, Donaldson and Encarnacion although not fast - are all excellent base runners. They slide in a manner using their arms to slide around tags.

This mistake video was the first time the rule was ever called.
Brett-GLG
Joined: 11.22.2011

Jul 26 @ 12:52 PM ET
Comes down to Pillar's bat which is just OK. I like the idea of power through the lineup, I think it wears pitchers down mentally.
Let's see what Gibby thinks tonight.

- Rang


Pillar has been nearly as good as Upton...

Elite defense trumps the slight upgrade with the bat...

He will be rotating in outfield for random off days, plus allowing Jose/Edwin to DH more often.

He will take a lot of smoak AB's

Pillar has a very tight grasp on the CF job.
WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

Jul 26 @ 12:52 PM ET
Losing that game was a piss off, that having been said, speed does not equate to being a good base runner.

Pillar is fast - terrible base runner. The only thing worse than his base running skills is his plate discipline. Remember the triple play last year with two guys on third?

Bautista, Donaldson and Encarnacion although not fast - are all excellent base runners. They slide in a manner using their arms to slide around tags.

This mistake video was the first time the rule was ever called.

- winsix


Donaldson had a great running out vs Jankowski last night, after that sneaky bastard almost stole 2 bases.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jul 26 @ 12:53 PM ET
Will the Leafs be able to?

In 5 years it could look like this

Matthews 8mil
Nylander 6mil
Marner 6.5mil
JVR 6mil
Andersen 5.5mil

Also Rielly and Kadri coming off their friendly contracts..

- Arctic_AARDVARK



I hope the Leafs have this "problem"... means that Nylander, Marner and Matthews have all panned out.

The contracts that have gotten them in trouble in the past - pre Uncle Lou were the Clarkson, komisarek, Phaneuf type deals... mid-range or slightly above average players paid PRIMO dollars.
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jul 26 @ 12:55 PM ET
I hope the Leafs have this "problem"... means that Nylander, Marner and Matthews have all panned out.

The contracts that have gotten them in trouble in the past - pre Uncle Lou were the Clarkson, komisarek, Phaneuf type deals... mid-range or slightly above average players paid PRIMO dollars.

- BorjeFan4Ever


They should pull an Oilers and pre-emtively sign every 1st round pick to 8 million dollar deals
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 26 @ 12:57 PM ET
Comes down to Pillar's bat which is just OK. I like the idea of power through the lineup, I think it wears pitchers down mentally.
Let's see what Gibby thinks tonight.

- Rang


Disagree, Pillar despite his poor base running skills and his total lack of plate discipline will not sit. He is one of the best defensive center fielders in the majors, and has lots of upside. If the idiot batting coach can convince him to not swing at pitches 4 feet out of the strike zone, he should be able to manage 25 walks a year and improve his horrible OBP.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 26 @ 12:58 PM ET
Donaldson had a great running out vs Jankowski last night, after that sneaky bastard almost stole 2 bases.
- WingmanWillie


Was a great play - more of an great reflex and athletic move - which he displays regularly at 3rd, than a speed move.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jul 26 @ 12:59 PM ET
I keep forgetting the Leafs have Rychel
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jul 26 @ 1:03 PM ET
Why not keep Pillar in centre, Upton in right = Big upgrade in the field

Have Edwin play first and Jose DH = Most power and best bats in line up.

Upton's bat and base running is superior to Smoak's.

Even if Smoak's D is better than Edwin's, what you're get from the above is more than worth it, in fact, it's not even close.

- As_I_See_It[/img]


100% agree. Edwin's D at first has been great this year when he's played there. The D gain in RF and Upton's speed more than make up for the difference between Edwin and Smoak at 1B.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 26 @ 1:04 PM ET
I hope the Leafs have this "problem"... means that Nylander, Marner and Matthews have all panned out.

The contracts that have gotten them in trouble in the past - pre Uncle Lou were the Clarkson, komisarek, Phaneuf type deals... mid-range or slightly above average players paid PRIMO dollars.

- BorjeFan4Ever

True. It seems like recent winners have like 2 huge salaries and just kinda rotate other players in and out.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 26 @ 1:05 PM ET
I believe it works that because the last time the US tried arming a resistance force... think back to Afghanistan in the Russian invasion error. That lead to just about everything that's going wrong in the region now.

Hence Nato guys with their weapons being sent in.

I would prefer if there was greater involvement from countries such as India, Pakistan and of course the financial powerhouses such as Saudi and the other oil producers.

- BorjeFan4Ever

The world is so (frank)ed.
WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

Jul 26 @ 1:05 PM ET
True. It seems like recent winners have like 2 huge salaries and just kinda rotate other players in and out.
- Arctic_AARDVARK


Yeah, a core of 4-5 guys taking up a decent % of the cap and a revolving door of supporting players
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jul 26 @ 1:10 PM ET
The world is so (frank)ed.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

not really... just need the political "leaders" to realize that there are no rules that need apply when dealing with the radicals...

1) collateral damage... unfortunate but happens
2) rules of war do not apply... this is all guerilla warfare
3) don't believe what the other leaders say... only thing that matters is what they Do or Do NOT do.

oh well... back to hockey


TITS!
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Jul 26 @ 1:39 PM ET
Why not keep Pillar in centre, Upton in right = Big upgrade in the field

Have Edwin play first and Jose DH = Most power and best bats in line up.

Upton's bat and base running is superior to Smoak's.

Even if Smoak's D is better than Edwin's, what you're get from the above is more than worth it, in fact, it's not even close.

- As_I_See_It[/img]


Mostly agree, Pillar will get a rest from time to time - especially against tough right handed pitchers. He hits lefties much better.

Upton will see action in all three outfield positions probably. Most in left, because Saunders is the weakest fielder defensively by a wide margin, and some right and center. Bautista is still an above average fielder. The worst defensive of on a team typically plays Left (George Bell, Manny Ramirez etc.) Smoak will be playing much less from here on in - his hitting lately, particularly with men on base has been brutal.
CanadianBodmon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.04.2011

Jul 26 @ 1:44 PM ET
Mostly agree, Pillar will get a rest from time to time - especially against tough right handed pitchers. He hits lefties much better.

Upton will see action in all three outfield positions probably. Most in left, because Saunders is the weakest fielder defensively by a wide margin, and some right and center. Bautista is still an above average fielder. The worst defensive of on a team typically plays Left (George Bell, Manny Ramirez etc.) Smoak will be playing much less from here on in - his hitting lately, particularly with men on base has been brutal.

- winsix


Jose is ranked one of the lower end caliber Right fielders in the league. His play really dropped off this year.

Theres a reason his name is Joey Bats and not Joey Glove
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