The longer you fight - when the end seems clear - the more it costs.
- StLBravesFan

You had to say the C word

Not the type of deal we see too often.

@generalfanager

Calle Jarnkrok (#Preds)
6 yrs @ $2M cap hit

https://t.co/V2Lb9FEX27 https://t.co/Z9BjdZNofx

Please don't bring "climate change" references to this hockey site.
- EbonyRaptor

Yeah! It's a HOT topic!



/internetz

I still have an issue with them not giving him a prolonged look. If McNeil thinks he can be a scorer at the NHL level and the Hawks think he has to become more all terrain bottom 6 guy why not give him a look at the NHL for 10-15 games and then send him back down with instructions on what to work on. Look at some of the guys the Hawks utilized in the first half of last year. I don't think McNeil would have been worse.

I have to think if a guy knows he can play a point productive style successfully in the AHL he will do so and continue to think he can do so at the NHL level as well until he learns otherwise. So maybe there is a bit of mentality disconnect with him and the Hawks coaching staff/front office.

We have seen several Hawks prospects get a taste then get sent back down to work on their games. I am shocked McNeil hasn't to date.

Something tells me maybe Q does not like him for some reason.
- bhawks2241

I was thinking the same as far as him needing a look to learn how to play at the NHL level. And I agree with JJ, he may not have the mentality the big club wants him to have. But the one he has is clearly working for him at the AHL level and you don't fix what isn't broken. Facing adversity leads to change and growth and maybe he needs the adversity and steep learning curve at the NHL level to spur a change in playing style.

Not the type of deal we see too often.

@generalfanager

Calle Jarnkrok (#Preds)
6 yrs @ $2M cap hit

https://t.co/V2Lb9FEX27 https://t.co/Z9BjdZNofx
- DarthKane

I like these kind of deals, I wish the blackhawks did this more. I'm sure both Kruger and Shaw would have done longer deals when they did them and not at 3.1 or 3.9 mil. If you feel very confident the guy is going to slot somewhere on the 3rd or 4th line for the next 5-6 years then you should do it. If he goes to 25 goals in 2 years its going to look like a steal if he stays at 15 its still a fine value. It only hurts if he goes back to 10.

I was thinking the same as far as him needing a look to learn how to play at the NHL level. And I agree with JJ, he may not have the mentality the big club wants him to have. But the one he has is clearly working for him at the AHL level and you don't fix what isn't broken. Facing adversity leads to change and growth and maybe he needs the adversity and steep learning curve at the NHL level to spur a change in playing style.
- Walky

Spot on. I also wonder how much he has improved since being drafted. I recall physically speaking he was very mature for his age. It could be that development wise he has not really improved much during his time in the AHL.

I like these kind of deals, I wish the blackhawks did this more. I'm sure both Kruger and Shaw would have done longer deals when they did them and not at 3.1 or 3.9 mil. If you feel very confident the guy is going to slot somewhere on the 3rd or 4th line for the next 5-6 years then you should do it. If he goes to 25 goals in 2 years its going to look like a steal if he stays at 15 its still a fine value. It only hurts if he goes back to 10.
- kmw4631

Like the Rizzo deal with the Cubs. It is a calculated risk but it pays off if they player hits their potential. I wish the Hawks would have done that with the first Kane and Toews extensions.

I second that
- Yikes726

We have a second, thank heavens!!!

You may have already tried, but did you call Comcast to ask for a lower rate? I say that because it seems every cable company now has a "retention department" to negotiate a better deal for long-term customers who are fed up with subsidizing the company's new customers' "$49.95 per month for 12 months" deals. Have some friends who have had success doing that with Comcast, and I just did it with RCN - cut $100 off my monthly while doubling my wifi speed.
- pdx2ord

Find someone who has the Center Ice package with Dish Network. If they trust you enough to give you their Dish Anywhere password you can view anything they get on your PC (which you can connect to most smart tv's). There are some rules, but not many.

Find someone who has the Center Ice package with Dish Network. If they trust you enough to give you their Dish Anywhere password you can view anything they get on your PC (which you can connect to most smart tv's). There are some rules, but not many.
- -Doh-

It's been a couple of years since I was a Dish Network customer (had to switch when we moved into a high rise and Dish Network wasn't available in the building), but they may be using up one of your signals when they do that. So if you have only 2 receivers and you're letting someone else watch using your account, you may be down to 1 receiver at home, which may be an issue for some. I know this was the case with SlingBox.

Scott Powers has an article at "theathletic.com" about John Hayden going back for his senior year at Yale but he states he will sign with the Hawks afterward (we've heard that before). However, he has been a standout at the last few prospect camps so I thought it would be interesting to compare his vitals and stats with another guy that played in the same college league as Hayden (ECAC) and who has been a hot topic on hockey blogs lately - Jimmy Vesey.

Vesey:

age: 23 (5/93)
height: 6'1"
weight: 195
season stats:
Freshman: 27 gms, 11g/7a = 18 points
Sophomore: 31 gms, 13g/9a = 22 points
Junior: 37 gms, 32g/26a = 58 points
Senior: 33 gms, 24g/22a = 46 points

Hayden:

age: 21 (2/95)
height: 6'3"
weight: 210
season stats:
Freshman: 33 gms, 6g/10a = 16 points
Sophomore: 29 gms, 7g/11a = 18 points
Junior: 32 gms, 16g/7a = 23 points

Hayden's Sophomore and Junior seasons track almost identical with Vesey's Freshman and Sophomore seasons. Hopefully Hayden's Senior season will follow suit with Vesey's Junior season.

We have a second, thank heavens!!!
- 35Tony0

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- EbonyRaptor

Tomas Fleischmann as a Top 6 LW for the Hawks this year is an absolutely desperate move. Shaw is more of a 1LW than Fleischmann at this point in his career. He is over-the-hill and has very serious health issues with the blood clots. His age and productivity over the last 3 seasons would indicate he is barely a 3rd liner right now. Would "Flash" at $500,000 on a 1 year deal be a nice depth add? I guess. However, he could not keep up with the Playoff pace this past spring, and that's why he was scratched for most of the series VS STL. BTW, Do the quotations indicate it is not a real thing in your mind? You know more than 99% of scientists? Interesting..

Tomas Fleischmann as a Top 6 LW for the Hawks this year is an absolutely desperate move. Shaw is more of a 1LW than Fleischmann at this point in his career. He is over-the-hill and has very serious health issues with the blood clots. His age and productivity over the last 3 seasons would indicate he is barely a 3rd liner right now. Would "Flash" at $500,000 on a 1 year deal be a nice depth add? I guess. However, he could not keep up with the Playoff pace this past spring, and that's why he was scratched for most of the series VS STL. BTW, Do the quotations indicate it is not a real thing in your mind? You know more than 99% of scientists? Interesting..
- EnzoD

Bowman, in my honest opinion, is really banking on Vesey. Either that, or he is going to wait until the TDL for a top 6 LW. Doesn't seem ideal to me because Toews even stated last season that there wasn't enough time to build chemistry with a LW. Considering there was a revolving door also. August 15 should bring us that answer.

It's been a couple of years since I was a Dish Network customer (had to switch when we moved into a high rise and Dish Network wasn't available in the building), but they may be using up one of your signals when they do that. So if you have only 2 receivers and you're letting someone else watch using your account, you may be down to 1 receiver at home, which may be an issue for some. I know this was the case with SlingBox.
- MartiniMan

We don't have Dish Network but my wife did bring up SlingBox yesterday. She's interested in making sure we don't have uninterrupted Hawks game coverage as much as I do! My kids (elementary school age and younger) are starting to get into the Hawks so I need to make sure they are constantly exposed to the team or else they will become Sharks fans.

Bowman, in my honest opinion, is really banking on Vesey. Either that, or he is going to wait until the TDL for a top 6 LW. Doesn't seem ideal to me because Toews even stated last season that there wasn't enough time to build chemistry with a LW. Considering there was a revolving door also. August 15 should bring us that answer.
- 93Joe

you might also find a few guys that trade players at training camp because they worry they will lose them on Waivers or want to keep young that has to clear waivers and want to move a vet. You could have had Panik last year. I know that he is not a great option but in all honesty I thought the top line looked as good with him as shaw and better then anybody other then Ladd.

I also think it would be smart move to Bring in a guy like flesch at $925 and tell him they are going to send him to Rockford to teach the younger guys and guard against injury and get called up for the playoffs.

We don't have Dish Network but my wife did bring up SlingBox yesterday. She's interested in making sure we don't have uninterrupted Hawks game coverage as much as I do! My kids (elementary school age and younger) are starting to get into the Hawks so I need to make sure they are constantly exposed to the team or else they will become Sharks fans.
- AEL_Fox

Slingbox works perfectly. I used it to watch the Blackhawks while in Phuket Thailand during the last Cup Run.

Slingbox works perfectly. I used it to watch the Blackhawks while in Phuket Thailand during the last Cup Run.
- riozzo

So the real question, everyone wants to know, is:

How do they pronunciation Phuket, in Thailand?

So the real question, everyone wants to know, is:

How do they pronunciation Phuket, in Thailand?
- BearsnHawks

Not how many think it is. It's pronounced pu-ket. My parents are from Thailand.

Gary Bettman continues to show that ostrich mentality that afflicted leaders of the tobacco industry and climate change deniers - there's no link between blows to the head and CTE.

It's not reality - it's just media hype.

http://www.nytimes.com/20...link.html?ref=sports&_r=0
- StLBravesFan

When one is bought by the influential and a pawn of the same, one says and does silly things; not unlike the screwy circular reference the truly desperate use to invoke fear.

Really now, would anyone expect Bettman to say anything different? The very fact he began to open his mouth tells you what he is going to say. This is what happns when the commish is the owner's mouthpiece.

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- Yikes726

Bowman, in my honest opinion, is really banking on Vesey. Either that, or he is going to wait until the TDL for a top 6 LW. Doesn't seem ideal to me because Toews even stated last season that there wasn't enough time to build chemistry with a LW. Considering there was a revolving door also. August 15 should bring us that answer.
- 93Joe

Will it truely come to that or will they move breadman up then see who clicks with kane and aa since kaner has shown is can still score without ideal players

Not how many think it is. It's pronounced pu-ket. My parents are from Thailand.
- AEL_Fox

Haha, thanks for the clarification.

I like these kind of deals, I wish the blackhawks did this more. I'm sure both Kruger and Shaw would have done longer deals when they did them and not at 3.1 or 3.9 mil. If you feel very confident the guy is going to slot somewhere on the 3rd or 4th line for the next 5-6 years then you should do it. If he goes to 25 goals in 2 years its going to look like a steal if he stays at 15 its still a fine value. It only hurts if he goes back to 10.
- kmw4631

I like these kind of deals, I wish the blackhawks did this more. I'm sure both Kruger and Shaw would have done longer deals when they did them and not at 3.1 or 3.9 mil.
- kmw4631

If Shaw and Kruger WERE Calle Jarnkrok players they would have...they are not. He hasn't shown advance in his game can't hold the puck and that would be where my argument would start.

Scott Powers has an article at "theathletic.com" about John Hayden going back for his senior year at Yale but he states he will sign with the Hawks afterward (we've heard that before). However, he has been a standout at the last few prospect camps so I thought it would be interesting to compare his vitals and stats with another guy that played in the same college league as Hayden (ECAC) and who has been a hot topic on hockey blogs lately - Jimmy Vesey.

Vesey:

age: 23 (5/93)
height: 6'1"
weight: 195
season stats:
Freshman: 27 gms, 11g/7a = 18 points
Sophomore: 31 gms, 13g/9a = 22 points
Junior: 37 gms, 32g/26a = 58 points
Senior: 33 gms, 24g/22a = 46 points

Hayden:

age: 21 (2/95)
height: 6'3"
weight: 210
season stats:
Freshman: 33 gms, 6g/10a = 16 points
Sophomore: 29 gms, 7g/11a = 18 points
Junior: 32 gms, 16g/7a = 23 points

Hayden's Sophomore and Junior seasons track almost identical with Vesey's Freshman and Sophomore seasons. Hopefully Hayden's Senior season will follow suit with Vesey's Junior season.
- EbonyRaptor

Unless Hayden has gotten a lot more agile, I don't think it is a fair comparison as Jimmy Vesey glides well and his lighter on his edges...in my humble opinion...and if you don't believe in climate change, you should be spending less time here.