Jets fan weighing in here (gonna skip the part where I joke about the Kane/Myers trade and Murray being bent over a barrel) if you can put Kane with the right linemates and let him loose on the other team (particularly on the rush), he could very easily hit 30 goals again. He knows how to score, he's underrated defensively, and he's a nightmare for the other team when you start cycling with the puck. He's also a child off the ice, and in my experience, tried to do too much himself. He doesn't play well with others, but only because he doesn't understand his own limitations. He has the speed, size, and puck handling to beat you wide or go through you. He does not have the hands to deke through three guys like he thinks he does. He has a VERY good shot, but he can't score with a wrister from the top of the circle like he thinks he can. The one thing that made me hold a little respect for the guy (even though most Jets fans were fed up) is that he ALWAYS played hard. Attitude? F-. Work ethic? A+. He played half a season with a tear in his shoulder and didn't complain once. That I respect. Point I'm trying to make here is that as terrible a person he's making himself out to be with these incidents, he's a very good hockey player, and Buffalo would be smart to hold on to him. He could break out in a big way this season.
- Rexypoo

Excellent post dude. Kane played well on the back end of the season and some forget he got 20 goals in only 65 games. If he played the whole season I would think he could have gotten close to 30. Match him up with ROR and Okposo and that line will drive the opposition batty.

Having said that, I think he's getting close to testing ownership's patience with his off ice crap. I have this feeling he'll be traded before camp. I hope not though.

Excellent post dude. Kane played well on the back end of the season and some forget he got 20 goals in only 65 games. If he played the whole season I would think he could have gotten close to 30. Match him up with ROR and Okposo and that line will drive the opposition batty.

Having said that, I think he's getting close to testing ownership's patience with his off ice crap. I have this feeling he'll be traded before camp. I hope not though.
- mhp

I think he has one strike left - before I knew this related to the earlier incident I thought he was gone.

At this point I think they view him as an issue, but they're not willing to dump at unlimited loss. He'll have a chance to stay while his value increases, and either A) he'll prove he's worth keeping (which will require both good play and good citizenship) or B) they'll take vale for him if he keeps out of trouble or dump him if he screws up again.

Yea the problem was social media is not Kane posting about the event . It is the magpies that dwell on it and beat a subject to death . On any internet forum even hockey ones . Innocent till proven guilty is now Guilty till proven innocent. Due to these so called experts that are far too impressed with their own opinions and the drama queens that over react even opportunity they have. Time to move on and get a life outside the internet . Go stand on a street corner yell your opinions to whoever will listen..

I am over him already

I think he has one strike left - before I knew this related to the earlier incident I thought he was gone.

At this point I think they view him as an issue, but they're not willing to dump at unlimited loss. He'll have a chance to stay while his value increases, and either A) he'll prove he's worth keeping (which will require both good play and good citizenship) or B) they'll take vale for him if he keeps out of trouble or dump him if he screws up again.
- Der Kaiser

Agreed. One more misstep and he's done in Buff. I hope he stays and proves all of us wrong by being a good teammate and citizen. If he's traded it creates a hole in the top 6 and can only hope the return is half way decent. I suspect Murray, who has wanted him for many years is probably talking ownership out of trading him.

I think he has one strike left - before I knew this related to the earlier incident I thought he was gone.

At this point I think they view him as an issue, but they're not willing to dump at unlimited loss. He'll have a chance to stay while his value increases, and either A) he'll prove he's worth keeping (which will require both good play and good citizenship) or B) they'll take vale for him if he keeps out of trouble or dump him if he screws up again.
- Der Kaiser

I want to be a fly on the wall when Murray has his talk with him.

Now, I also think he needs to sit down with Jack and Sam and have a talk about who they buddy-up with off the ice. It shouldn't be with EK, stay clear of that problem child.

love or hate myers, he was fine as a second pair and we moved him for this piece of sh!t

- homiedclown

"MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN"

love or hate myers, he was fine as a second pair and we moved him and then some for this piece of sh!t
- homiedclown

Fixed

Agreed. Stripes for Mod!
- Der Kaiser

Write me in...

Probably, I'm not making that argument though. I was just agreeing on what an elite sh% was.

I just looked it up his career before last year was 9.0%. Last year he shot 7.4%. So even if he gets back to his career average of 9.0% before last year it wouldn't be enough. You're not going to increase your sh% by 5.0% if you only shot 1.6% below it last year. It's possible and players do do it for a season, but they always come crashing back to Earth.
- Wetbandit1

If he returned to his career average shot % and he had the same percentage of SOG as last season he would need to play 80 games to score 30 goals.

"MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN"
- mhp

your vote might matter this year

NY may be in play

Write me in...
- Stripes77

I am doing research now on your life between midnight and 7 am


Don't be surprised if a car tails you

Yea the problem was social media is not Kane posting about the event . It is the magpies that dwell on it and beat a subject to death . On any internet forum even hockey ones . Innocent till proven guilty is now Guilty till proven innocent. Due to these so called experts that are far too impressed with their own opinions and the drama queens that over react even opportunity they have. Time to move on and get a life outside the internet . Go stand on a street corner yell your opinions to whoever will listen..
- Maximum Signal

Guilt doesn't have much to do with it. We're talking about a player who came in with a reputation to begin with, was told to keep his head down off the ice, and has refused to do it, repeatedly. What other athletes have done in the past, and where Kane ranks on the deplorability scale is irrelevant. He was given a mandate to not be a distraction, and has failed miserably. And he's not good enough that it's worth it to begin with.

Write me in...
- Stripes77

Done. Do the will of the people, Eklund!!

To be clear, I agree with the earlier post that says Stash and Cisco do fine work, but they can't be here all day everyday like some of us.

- homiedclown

Lol
See, it must work

I think Kane is going to put an incredible amount of pressure on him self to produce if/when he hits the ice for the Sabres this year. I believe he is a smart guy, realizes how bad he (frank)ed up on this one and how much we gave up to get him in a Sabres uniform. He should also realize that this is the end of the line for his career. If he does not clean up his act and start producing, this could be the end of the line.
I will give him another chance. We only saw a glimps of his talent last season and he was coming off of a season long surgery with little prep time and thrown into the mix of a new system with new players to adapt to.

Guilt doesn't have much to do with it. We're talking about a player who came in with a reputation to begin with, was told to keep his head down off the ice, and has refused to do it, repeatedly. What other athletes have done in the past, and where Kane ranks on the deplorability scale is irrelevant. He was given a mandate to not be a distraction, and has failed miserably. And he's not good enough that it's worth it to begin with.
- buffalofan19

Look, we can all agree results matter, and at the end of the day the results of his off-ice conduct in Buffalo are 2 legal issues and a missed practice.

I think if you take the results apart though, from piecing together the reports as I have seen them, you wind up with a situation where (A) the missed practice was an utter failure on his part; and (B) the first legal proceeding is a nonculpable event that was initiated in the absence of a complaint, and only because third parties with no knowledge of the matter were required to notify authorities; and (c.) this current thing looks like Kane's mistake was getting involved in some poop that others started and making a problem worse while trying to fix it.

I'm sure the organization is pissed, but I bet it's not a different level of pissed than - say - if Girgensons is actually refusing to play the system and demanding top 6 time; or, say, having an oral agreement with a backup goalie on July 1 and having him renege on the deal.

These challenges arise in every organization, and people manage them (or not) and move on.

your vote might matter this year

NY may be in play
- homiedclown

NY is never in play. There are too many needy people here and they just keep bringing in more and more. The gimme, gimme, gimme crowd will be munching on free sammiches while being bused by the DNC to a polling place near you. Oh, and all the dead people will vote for Felonary as well. Twice.

Guilt doesn't have much to do with it. We're talking about a player who came in with a reputation to begin with, was told to keep his head down off the ice, and has refused to do it, repeatedly. What other athletes have done in the past, and where Kane ranks on the deplorability scale is irrelevant. He was given a mandate to not be a distraction, and has failed miserably. And he's not good enough that it's worth it to begin with.
- buffalofan19

Evander Kane is a flawed human just like all of us. The only difference is he plays professional sports so people get all butthurt when he does something wrong. Let's look at the facts here though shall we?

1) He has the sexual assault thing that resulted from a drunk girl hooking up with him. She never even claimed she was raped, but the hospital was mandated to report because she couldn't remember exactly what happened. This would never make the news if it happened to any of us. The worst parts about that incident are that he cheated on his gf and slept with a drunk girl. Both of those things are of dubious character, but they aren't indicative of some menace to society.

2) The NBA All-Star game situation was next. He takes a short flight to Toronto and oversleeps the next day and misses practice. Is it irresponsible? Yes. My question is what early 20s male in here has never drank the night before a workday and overslept or gone to work hungover? My guess is many of us have. Again, it's only news because he's a pro sports player. I could call into work tomorrow for the same thing and probably wouldn't even receive a slap on the wrist.

3) The most recent incident is the real first 'bad apple' behavior in my opinion. He has too much to drink at a bar that is paying him to appear and depending on which version of the story you believe, says or does some rotten things. I believe that if the BPD had video of him choking a woman and trying to shove her in his car that they would have filed more than non-criminal harassment charges. I think he probably got drunk and mouthed off to some people and this was the result. I obviously wasn't there, and if for some reason there was video of him choking a woman that surfaced I would think much differently, but as things stand I believe this was not that big of a deal. The charges levied against him would support that opinion.

Meanwhile, in the shadow of all the judgements being cast against him, people forgot about things that are proven facts, such as the FACT that he took dozens of kids from the local Boys and Girls Club to dinner and Dave and Buster's and right before Christmas he took a group of 50 to dinner at Chef's and bussed them all to Target and gave them $200 give cards. What a horrible person, right? Would I like for him to stay out of the news? Absolutely. He could stand to grow up some and be self-aware enough to realize he is a target and surround himself with people and situations that aren't going to have the potential to harm him and his character. However, the depiction of the guy as some immoral rogue citizen off the ice is largely overblown to me.

I am doing research now on your life between midnight and 7 am


Don't be surprised if a car tails you
- homiedclown

I have 2 small children...be prepared to park outside my house during that time period...

I have 2 small children...be prepared to park outside my house during that time period...
- Stripes77

Fresh pachla.

Evander Kane is a flawed human just like all of us. The only difference is he plays professional sports so people get all butthurt when he does something wrong. Let's look at the facts here though shall we?

1) He has the sexual assault thing that resulted from a drunk girl hooking up with him. She never even claimed she was raped, but the hospital was mandated to report because she couldn't remember exactly what happened. This would never make the news if it happened to any of us. The worst parts about that incident are that he cheated on his gf and slept with a drunk girl. Both of those things are of dubious character, but they aren't indicative of some menace to society.

2) The NBA All-Star game situation was next. He takes a short flight to Toronto and oversleeps the next day and misses practice. Is it irresponsible? Yes. My question is what early 20s male in here has never drank the night before a workday and overslept or gone to work hungover? My guess is many of us have. Again, it's only news because he's a pro sports player. I could call into work tomorrow for the same thing and probably wouldn't even receive a slap on the wrist.

3) The most recent incident is the real first 'bad apple' behavior in my opinion. He has too much to drink at a bar that is paying him to appear and depending on which version of the story you believe, says or does some rotten things. I believe that if the BPD had video of him choking a woman and trying to shove her in his car that they would have filed more than non-criminal harassment charges. I think he probably got drunk and mouthed off to some people and this was the result. I obviously wasn't there, and if for some reason there was video of him choking a woman that surfaced I would think much differently, but as things stand I believe this was not that big of a deal. The charges levied against him would support that opinion.

Meanwhile, in the shadow of all the judgements being cast against him, people forgot about things that are proven facts, such as the FACT that he took dozens of kids from the local Boys and Girls Club to dinner and Dave and Buster's and right before Christmas he took a group of 50 to dinner at Chef's and bussed them all to Target and gave them $200 give cards. What a horrible person, right? Would I like for him to stay out of the news? Absolutely. He could stand to grow up some and be self-aware enough to realize he is a target and surround himself with people and situations that aren't going to have the potential to harm him and his character. However, the depiction of the guy as some immoral rogue citizen off the ice is largely overblown to me.
- Pierceme69

*clap, clap, clap*

awesome piece...