That's a good 1-2
- sbroads24

Close.

So because an unnamed source says it and it's reported by a paper it happened? Let me ask you this, if you were dragged to a car against your will wouldn't you file more severe charges? You know an actual felony? Also if this video gets out and he in fact did drag her the newly appointed DA would have a lot to answer to.
- Stripes77

The paper reported it based on a quote from police so that would be a question for them as to why the charge is what it is. "Police" is a weird anonymous quote so maybe they just issued a press release. I'm just telling you what the police say happened. If you have an issue with the justice system and how seriously things should be treated, that isn't going to be solved here. Proving enough intent for a conviction on a more serious charge isn't easy to do but I can't speak as to why the charge is what it is, that's up to the DA.

I hope they don't trade Sam ever but you never know
- GERBE!!!75PTS

He's part of the core. I highly doubt it. Reinhart, Risto, Eichel, ROR.

I think what they do is going to depend on if the videos are made public and how bad they are. If he's actually shown grabbing a girl by the neck and hair and trying to force her into his car, that's a real problem. People can say the charges are minor and no big deal but if the video comes out and it shows what the Buffalo police have claimed that it shows, nobody's going to care that the actual charges are of a minor nature. That kind of behaviour isn't tolerated by most people and shouldn't be tolerated so the team is going to need to deal with that.

If the video never actually goes public, the team isn't going to do anything drastic because there won't be the same level of public outrage.

For example, if there was a video of Varlamov's incident floating around, like there was for Ray Rice, he'd be playing in Russia now instead of the NHL regardless of what happened with the charges against him. If people actually see what happens instead of speculating, and it's bad, that changes everything.
- clematrix

You're way off on Varlamov.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/st...rds-avalanche-goalie-126k

Ray Rice on the other hand. Him dragging her out of the elevator was bad enough, then when the inside of the elevator came out it was catastrophic. But here's something that people don't bring up.

Are people who have committed crimes not allowed to work? Ray Rice is definitely guilty of battery; we see him punch his wife out. But at the same time the guy has to be allowed to work. These are these guy's jobs. People lose sight of that fact, a lot.

The paper reported it based on a quote from police so that would be a question for them as to why the charge is what it is. "Police" is a weird anonymous quote so maybe they just issued a press release. I'm just telling you what the police say happened. If you have an issue with the justice system and how seriously things should be treated, that isn't going to be solved here. Proving enough intent for a conviction on a more serious charge isn't easy to do but I can't speak as to why the charge is what it is, that's up to the DA.
- clematrix

Say hi to Norm for me, OK Cliffy?

Many not within the last 5 years, but all very much significantly more serious.

www.thesportster.com/hock...ssing-nhl-player-arrests/

Legit question, why are we limiting the consideration to the last 5 years? Are the others irrelevant?
- Der Kaiser

Of course, duh.

Old facts have no place here.

He will be playing LW for the Sabres on opening night.
- SABRES 89

Yeah, I expect so too. His trade value's in the tank and they gave up way too much to get him to try and void his contract so he'll very likely be a Sabre opening night.

You're way off on Varlamov.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/st...rds-avalanche-goalie-126k

Ray Rice on the other hand. Him dragging her out of the elevator was bad enough, then when the inside of the elevator came out it was catastrophic. But here's something that people don't bring up.

Are people who have committed crimes not allowed to work? Ray Rice is definitely guilty of battery; we see him punch his wife out. But at the same time the guy has to be allowed to work. These are these guy's jobs. People lose sight of that fact, a lot.
- Wetbandit1

They can work digging ditches or pouring concrete with the rest of the disreputable asswipes.

Yeah, I expect so too. His trade value's in the tank and they gave up way too much to get him to try and void his contract so he'll very likely be a Sabre opening night.
- clematrix

He wasn't trading him to begin with, don't believe what you read.

Jim Kelly reportedly choked a woman at a Buffalo bar, but people want to rally around him. Maybe Kane needs a bit of cancer to get fans on his side.
- Pierceme69

Cancer buys you ALOT of sympathy. Even just being related to someone with cancer buys you a lot of sympathy.

That's what the police claim the video shows and what one of the plaintiffs claims happened. If the video gets released publicly, we'll see if that was an exaggeration. Hopefully it is but that is the allegation here. Or I should say one of them, the one that sounds most severe. The story has been updated throughout the day as more info has come out.

http://sabres.buffalonews.com/2016/07/22/sabres-evander-kane-charged-with-misdemeanor-trespassing-in-bar-incident/
- clematrix

The charges they can support have already been filed. They aren't coming back next week to tack on more charges. If the video existed as the police claimed they would have charged him with more severe charges.

They can work digging ditches or pouring concrete with the rest of the disreputable asswipes.
- Der Kaiser

They're good at running with a ball, or hitting a chunk of rubber with a stick. It's the American dream, after all. Making it big, coming from nothing. Why shouldn't they be allowed to do what they're good at? Just because a lot of people watch them do it? That's a pretty dumb reason.

You're way off on Varlamov.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/st...rds-avalanche-goalie-126k

Ray Rice on the other hand. Him dragging her out of the elevator was bad enough, then when the inside of the elevator came out it was catastrophic. But here's something that people don't bring up.

Are people who have committed crimes not allowed to work? Ray Rice is definitely guilty of battery; we see him punch his wife out. But at the same time the guy has to be allowed to work. These are these guy's jobs. People lose sight of that fact, a lot.
- Wetbandit1

I might be in the majority But I believe if you ever put your hands on a woman choker punch her in the face anything of that nature ( i'm talking Greg Hardy style )you should spend the rest of your life in jail because those people are garbage they will continue to do it even if they're sorry ..

They're good at running with a ball, or hitting a chunk of rubber with a stick. It's the American dream, after all. Making it big, coming from nothing. Why shouldn't they be allowed to do what they're good at? Just because a lot of people watch them do it? That's a pretty dumb reason.
- Wetbandit1

I don't think all this back and fourth is going to get any of us anywhere, i'm giving up.

You're way off on Varlamov.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/st...rds-avalanche-goalie-126k

Ray Rice on the other hand. Him dragging her out of the elevator was bad enough, then when the inside of the elevator came out it was catastrophic. But here's something that people don't bring up.

Are people who have committed crimes not allowed to work? Ray Rice is definitely guilty of battery; we see him punch his wife out. But at the same time the guy has to be allowed to work. These are these guy's jobs. People lose sight of that fact, a lot.
- Wetbandit1

People are allowed to work but professional athletes are also selling a brand. There's typically community involvement, working with kids, mentoring, etc. Whether or not there should be is a marketing issue with pro sports leagues and other sponsors. I'm sure Ray Rice can find a job. Not getting another job as a professional football player does't mean that you're banned from having any job anywhere ever. If he applied at Walmart, they'd likely hire him.

I might be in the majority But I believe if you ever put your hands on a woman choker punch her in the face anything of that nature you should spend the rest of your life in jail because those people are garbage they will continue to do it even if they're sorry ..
- GERBE!!!75PTS

People who abuse women are garbage people, but even garbage people have the right to live their lives. Domestic abuse makes you a scumbag, but it doesn't make you a murderer.

He wasn't trading him to begin with, don't believe what you read.
- SABRES 89

Wrong

They're good at running with a ball, or hitting a chunk of rubber with a stick. It's the American dream, after all. Making it big, coming from nothing. Why shouldn't they be allowed to do what they're good at? Just because a lot of people watch them do it? That's a pretty dumb reason.
- Wetbandit1

You're built too low ...

https://m.youtube.com/wat...nwbG9YLE&feature=youtu.be

Wrong
- sbroads24

Yea you are wrong

He wasn't trading him to begin with, don't believe what you read.
- SABRES 89

No, he can't trade him after a year. He doesn't want to either, they knew what they were getting in the deal and thought the on-ice production was worth it. Nothing's really changed, this is just more of the same.

I review video at my job when needed it doesn't take that long.
- Stripes77

You also, I don't think, work for the BPD with how many shootings to deal with? An at most simple assault isn't exactly on the front burner.

No, he can't trade him after a year. He doesn't want to either, they knew what they were getting in the deal and thought the on-ice production was worth it. Nothing's really changed, this is just more of the same.
- clematrix

He can't because no one will touch him. He absolutely tried to include him in a deal.

The charges they can support have already been filed. They aren't coming back next week to tack on more charges. If the video existed as the police claimed they would have charged him with more severe charges.
- Pierceme69

Well, that is what they say and this is what he's charged with. If the video never comes out then we'll never really know. if it does, we'll see a problem either with what the police are claiming or lack of severity in the charges.

He can't because no one will touch him. He absolutely tried to include him in a deal.
- sbroads24

No he didn't

People who abuse women are garbage people, but even garbage people have the right to live their lives. Domestic abuse makes you a scumbag, but it doesn't make you a murderer.
- Pierceme69

And I don't think a single one of us would bat an eye if they had a rough time(getting their ass kicked) in or out of prison. I might even crack a smile.