maybe they have added enough PKers this summer to take Nash off the PK and let him concentrate on scoring, I've been beating that horse for awhile
- jimbro83

Nash was great on the PK in '14-15. The team had a 84.3% kill rate (6th best) and he potted 4SHG. Not that it worked last season when his overall scoring, SHGs, and team PK were all in the tank. But I think he proved the PK is a great place to use his explosiveness and finishing ability.

I hate the fact that I have to agree to agree with this. and I'm a big Rick Nash fan
- MiloslavHorava

I'm not going to say that you're 100% wrong either. His salary is high. And he did not score enough last year...LAST year. Part of the problem for me is that plenty of people on here were calling for him to be run out of town at any cost solely based on that one year. I suspect that if we look back over Nash's time here once this contract is up (or, just off our books), you could look at his average goals per season and be pretty satisfied for the money he was paid.
That, along with all the other facets of his game being at an elite level lead me to give him the benefit of the doubt. If he doesn't bounce back this season, I will be more willing to revisit my position on his worth.

Pardon me???
we speak english and use real words here
- MiloslavHorava

Shot attemps, unblocked shot attempts, and shots...

Not defending it, but I don't think they really "pick" the bathroom.

"Man, I'm drunk. Gotta find somewhere to lay down. Couch is ope- ohhh yes, FREE TOILET SPACE"
- eichiefs9

Well I have been hammered out of my mind, and I never once crashed in a bathroom. Crapped in a fish tank and I didn't remember doing it, but always ended up somewhere comfortable.

Nash was great on the PK in '14-15. The team had a 84.3% kill rate (6th best) and he potted 4SHG. Not that it worked last season when his overall scoring, SHGs, and team PK were all in the tank. But I think he proved the PK is a great place to use his explosiveness and finishing ability.
- nyrispmco

The argument to that would be: he has a much better chance of utilizing said explosiveness and finishing ability 5v5 and on the PP. PK minutes may be wearing him down and holding out for around 4SHG/year is tiring him out and not allowing him to have the chance to capitalize playing in other situations.

Nash was great on the PK in '14-15. The team had a 84.3% kill rate (6th best) and he potted 4SHG. Not that it worked last season when his overall scoring, SHGs, and team PK were all in the tank. But I think he proved the PK is a great place to use his explosiveness and finishing ability.
- nyrispmco

yeah he was, but as he gets older, I don't think him expending so much energy on the PK is going to help him

32 year old player needs to conserve energy in a long season you hope goes until June and the PK is the most energy sapping of anything that goes on out there

Well I have been hammered out of my mind, and I never once crashed in a bathroom. Crapped in a fish tank and I didn't remember doing it, but always ended up somewhere comfortable.
- mdw7413

Wait wait wait. Let's rewind this for a second.

Did you really take a dump in a fish tank?

there are people I am friends with on facebook who spent their entire 4 years of high school in detention that talk about the constitution several times a day on facebook.
- jimbro83

YEP! The funny thing is these guys actually think they KNOW what they're talking about, this goes for both sides of the politics aisle, they're all A HOLES!

Hey facebook guy, with the fancy tough guy memes you post everyday, NO ONE gives a (frank) about your point of view. You work at Walmart.

yeah he was, but as he gets older, I don't think him expending so much energy on the PK is going to help him

32 year old player needs to conserve energy in a long season you hope goes until June and the PK is the most energy sapping of anything that goes on out there
- jimbro83

Yup, especially bringing in Pk specialists. If they need him I'm sure they will put him out there, but he should be a last resort now.

Wait wait wait. Let's rewind this for a second.

Did you really take a dump in a fish tank?
- eichiefs9

We all do that everyday if you really think about it.

yeah he was, but as he gets older, I don't think him expending so much energy on the PK is going to help him

32 year old player needs to conserve energy in a long season you hope goes until June and the PK is the most energy sapping of anything that goes on out there
- jimbro83

Kreider and Nash both had pretty miserable seasons last year. If they turn it around, look out.

Hayes and Girardi too.

But if they turn it around, I bet some other players will have miserable seasons

YEP! The funny thing is these guys actually think they KNOW what they're talking about, this goes for both sides of the politics aisle, they're all A HOLES!

Hey facebook guy, with the fancy tough guy memes you post everyday, NOONE gives a (frank) about your point of view. You work at Walmart.
- B2B76

"I found this picture of (politician) with some un-cited words on it, so let me share it so you know how politically knowledgeable I am"

F Grabner

Wait wait wait. Let's rewind this for a second.

Did you really take a dump in a fish tank?
- eichiefs9

Wasn't my fish and I have no recollection of doing it, but I was told I was the only culprit.

Kreider and Nash both had pretty miserable seasons last year. If they turn it around, look out.

Hayes and Girardi too.

But if they turn it around, I bet some other players will have miserable seasons
- rangerdanger94

I think you had a miserable hockeybuzz year, you need to step it up

Wasn't my fish and I have no recollection of doing it, but I was told I was the only culprit.
- mdw7413

Honestly, what bothers me the most is that you so casually just tossed that in there like it wasn't something anyone would want to question.

The argument to that would be: he has a much better chance of utilizing said explosiveness and finishing ability 5v5 and on the PP. PK minutes may be wearing him down and holding out for around 4SHG/year is tiring him out and not allowing him to have the chance to capitalize playing in other situations.
- eichiefs9

Sure, and I get that argument. However, he's perfectly designed for the situation - long reach, great hands, explosive skater, good finisher - all tailor made for making an opponent pay for an aggressive posture. And even when he doesn't generate a breakaway going the other direction, you better bet it's something the opponent's thinking about that they'd rather not.

Well I have been hammered out of my mind, and I never once crashed in a bathroom. Crapped in a fish tank and I didn't remember doing it, but always ended up somewhere comfortable.
- mdw7413

Really? You've never been in the situation where you think "I may not be able to spell my own name right now, but I know there is a VERY good chance I'm going to puke"?
Being next to the toilet is rather beneficial at that time!

"I found this picture of (politician) with some un-cited words on it, so let me share it so you know how politically knowledgeable I am"
- eichiefs9

I think I've "unfollowed" more than half my "friends" on FB.

Honestly, what bothers me the most is that you so casually just tossed that in there like it wasn't something anyone would want to question.
- eichiefs9

And I'm sure you have been a sweet little angel when you were hammered..I saw some of your college stories.

yeah he was, but as he gets older, I don't think him expending so much energy on the PK is going to help him

32 year old player needs to conserve energy in a long season you hope goes until June and the PK is the most energy sapping of anything that goes on out there
- jimbro83

The losing a step with age/need to conserve energy argument is the only way I see keeping his PK minutes down.

I think I've "unfollowed" more than half my "friends" on FB.
- B2B76

I got rid of FB as soon as my mom got one.

Sure, and I get that argument. However, he's perfectly designed for the situation - long reach, great hands, explosive skater, good finisher - all tailor made for making an opponent pay for an aggressive posture. And even when he doesn't generate a breakaway going the other direction, you better bet it's something the opponent's thinking about that they'd rather not.
- nyrispmco

Of course, but do you really want to give him all that extra exposure and risk fatigue/injuries? When you're paying him that kind of money, you want him to be playing in situations in which he can score. There are plenty of equal-or-better PK'ers out there that make 1/4 of what Nash does. In fact, you guys probably signed 2 already this offseason.

Really? You've never been in the situation where you think "I may not be able to spell my own name right now, but I know there is a VERY good chance I'm going to puke"?
Being next to the toilet is rather beneficial at that time!
- Tonybere

I wasn't a puker. I could drink as much as I wanted and just went to sleep. I think I threw up once and that was after much too much vodka. Never had it after that.

I think you had a miserable hockeybuzz year, you need to step it up
- jimbro83

I was MVP of Hockeybuzz ya dunce