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GudasNew
Florida Panthers
Location: DE
Joined: 03.03.2015

Jul 22 @ 10:22 AM ET
I think Schenn gets 4 years somewhere between $4.7-4.9 aav
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jul 22 @ 10:25 AM ET
Yeah I have no doubt there is a mental maturity that goes along with being physically mature. I don't think I was mentally mature to be a professional before the age of 21, even if I had the skill. I just wonder how much of being a bust is "being rushed by the team"
- YuenglingJagr


great question, maybe they were meant to be a bust, just couldnt handle it.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 22 @ 10:27 AM ET
In Ron we must trust! I do but the anticipation is driving me nuts! But when I envision this team in a season or two, I see really good things! I hope others see the same!
- Poweinthekisser

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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 22 @ 10:27 AM ET
I could see Schenn getting something similar in regards to the aav, but maybe for only 3 years.
- BiggE



I think the arbitrator, based on the Kreider deal, will come in at between 5 and 5.5
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 22 @ 10:30 AM ET
I think the arbitrator, based on the Kreider deal, will come in at between 5 and 5.5
- MBFlyerfan


:puke:
GudasNew
Florida Panthers
Location: DE
Joined: 03.03.2015

Jul 22 @ 10:30 AM ET
I think the arbitrator, based on the Kreider deal, will come in at between 5 and 5.5
- MBFlyerfan


jumpin jehosaphat
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jul 22 @ 10:33 AM ET
I think the arbitrator, based on the Kreider deal, will come in at between 5 and 5.5
- MBFlyerfan


the only way it gets this high is because of his play from january on. doesnt arbitrator take into account his whole body of work until now? his play for majority of his career is not indicative of a $5.5 million aav
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 22 @ 10:34 AM ET
I think Schenn gets 4 years somewhere between $4.7-4.9 aav
- GudasNew

Seems fair although I'd give him 2 or 3 years at the same price.

I feel Schenn is heavily underrated by those who want him gone. I personally think he'll turn out to be bettee than Simmonds someday. Maybe not in terms of toughness or scoring but being a more balanced player. I like Schenn's skating, passing and shot better than Simmonds.

Just how I feel.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 22 @ 10:36 AM ET
I think the arbitrator, based on the Kreider deal, will come in at between 5 and 5.5
- MBFlyerfan


Arbitration awards are lower than the AAV on long term deals for RFAs because the number the arbitrator comes up with only lasts for 1 or 2 years.
bigstar12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jul 22 @ 10:38 AM ET
Agreed, I'd have no problem with Konecny going back to Junior this season.
- BiggE

I need to listen again, but Konecny interview at development camp, I recall him speaking about this in a positive matter. I see zero reason to rush the kid into the NHL.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 22 @ 10:51 AM ET
Agreed, I'd have no problem with Konecny going back to Junior this season.
- BiggE


Sarnia wouldn't mind either
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 22 @ 11:02 AM ET
Yup, that's exactly as I see him. That being said, I'd love to see him go out and put up 30 goals and 65 points and prove me wrong.
- BiggE


So would I, especially if he's signed long term.

I don't want him gone, but they have to avoid overpaying. The Brayden Schenn who showed up from January through the playoffs is worth $5mm or more. But we don't know if that Schenn will show up for 82 games.

If he's the inconsistent guy, who put up 20 goals and 45 points but doesn't bring much when he's not scoring, then he's simply not worth much more than $4mm
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 22 @ 11:05 AM ET
Sam Gagner still turning out to be a productive player is a testament to his hockey sense... b/c yeah, his body and his skating were nowhere close to where they needed to be when then put him in the lineup. He could have easily ended up being another Rob Schremp.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 22 @ 11:11 AM ET
All prospects need to be handled differently most of these kids are physically able to handle pro hockey, but very few are mature enough to withstand the grind. On prospal, I remember his breakout year in the ahl very well. I went to lots of phantoms games back then and recall him dominating pretty much every game I saw. One in particular was against the Kentucky thoroughblades, he toyed with them every time he touched the puck and scored on a beautiful end to end rush. Was very sad he was traded for floofy mcdaigle.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 22 @ 11:14 AM ET
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BREAKING: I have learned Sabres Forward Evander Kane has been arrested by Buffalo Police. No further details at this time. @WKBW

She's a news anchor on Buffalo's ABC affiliate
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 22 @ 11:14 AM ET
the only way it gets this high is because of his play from january on. doesnt arbitrator take into account his whole body of work until now? his play for majority of his career is not indicative of a $5.5 million aav
- sjk540



It may be when compared to Kreiders stats.

I hope you are right.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 22 @ 11:17 AM ET
Ashley Rowe Verified account
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BREAKING: I have learned Sabres Forward Evander Kane has been arrested by Buffalo Police. No further details at this time. @WKBW

She's a news anchor on Buffalo's ABC affiliate

- Jsaquella

https://twitter.com/TheBu...02624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 22 @ 11:19 AM ET
Ashley Rowe Verified account
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BREAKING: I have learned Sabres Forward Evander Kane has been arrested by Buffalo Police. No further details at this time. @WKBW

She's a news anchor on Buffalo's ABC affiliate

- Jsaquella




That guy smh.....
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 22 @ 11:20 AM ET
Ashley Rowe Verified account
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BREAKING: I have learned Sabres Forward Evander Kane has been arrested by Buffalo Police. No further details at this time. @WKBW

She's a news anchor on Buffalo's ABC affiliate

- Jsaquella


Kind of fitting on a blog on how to fizzle out of the league. Granted innocent until proven guilty, but I doubt he gets arrested unless they have enough evidence to make a case against him.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 22 @ 11:21 AM ET
https://twitter.com/TheBuffaloNews/status/756507568978202624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
- feelingkettle


He really needs to stop putting himself in bad situations and grow up. Sexual assault allegations, issues at bars...he's doing himself no favors.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 22 @ 11:22 AM ET
Kind of fitting on a blog on how to fizzle out of the league. Granted innocent until proven guilty, but I doubt he gets arrested unless they have enough evidence to make a case against him.
- Pelle31Forever


It's just too many instances of it. At the very least he's got to be a lot smarter about the situations he's getting himself into.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 22 @ 11:24 AM ET
He really needs to stop putting himself in bad situations and grow up. Sexual assault allegations, issues at bars...he's doing himself no favors.
- Jsaquella

Kanes in Buffalo...nothing good ever happens to them there.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 22 @ 11:24 AM ET
Ashley Rowe Verified account
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BREAKING: I have learned Sabres Forward Evander Kane has been arrested by Buffalo Police. No further details at this time. @WKBW

She's a news anchor on Buffalo's ABC affiliate

- Jsaquella

Ruh roh

Sadly, I'd still swap AMac straight up for him
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jul 22 @ 11:24 AM ET
He really needs to stop putting himself in bad situations and grow up. Sexual assault allegations, issues at bars...he's doing himself no favors.
- Jsaquella


Also shows how if you are a good enough athlete you can dodge these type of claims, ie pat Kane. Same city, similar situation.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 22 @ 11:27 AM ET
Also shows how if you are a good enough athlete you can dodge these type of claims, ie pat Kane. Same city, similar situation.
- twotoekenn


I believe strongly that an accusation isn't always true, but when there's repeated instances...
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