Look, I really hope Larsson is more than he's shown so far. I think this really is a case of a GM feeling the heat and jumping the gun on a deal just to show he's taking action. If he had gone the whole summer trying to get the most return for Hall, i'm convinced we'd have gotten a better offensive RHD.
Yes you're going to overpay to get a premium D, but not to this extent. Larsson is not in the top 30 D in the league based on his performance so far. some of his impressive defensive numbers are due to the Devils being a defence first team, with forwards acting far more responsibly on D than what Oiler forwards have shown, so there's that too.
Yes, I hope this works out for us but so far I don't like Chiarelli's performance at all.
- haymac

More than he has shown? Since 2012, he is ranked as the number 1 defensive d-man in the entire NHL in 5 on 5 situations.

And no, it's not him jumping the gun... He was scouting Larsson for over a year.

This is just a case of you not being familiar with the player. Trust me, you'll love him if you give him a far shake.

being an oilers fan you igg should show some support instead of bashing the team you so call go for. Seems to me that your a one player lover and not a team lover. Ive read alot of your comments since the trade and you have nothing good to say about the oilers and the changes they needed. Being a fan means looking at a new year and understanding that changes need to be done. If the oil did nothing I believe you would still be here complaining about the EDMONTON OILERS whom I as a real fan support the team no matter what. look for the bright side of things
- Trevormac902

Why do some fans think we are "Hall lovers" because we are not happy that Chiarelli got robbed in the Hall deal.
Trade Hall no problem, but for what this team needed, a "top" pairing d-man. Not a "lets hope and pray" player, I think we're a little tired of hope and pray.

My gripe with Chiarelli is that he rushed into this trade. He had 3 months before the season to make a better deal. Seems to me he felt pressured to make a big move so he did it just to say he took action. That's not good management of the team assets IMO.
If he couldn't get Larsson for Ebs or even Nuge, he shouldn't have gone ahead. Hall should have gotten us that offensive RHD we need. By pulling this apparently loop-sided trade, he harmed the Oil for future trades as lesser assets will not yield a return anywhere close to equal value.
I disagreed with his giving up 2 high draft picks for Reinhart, who the Isles were more than happy to get rid of. I worried that such a poor trade then would result in more of the same, and so far that's exactly what we've received.
- haymac

110%

You gonna try and tell me Shero wouldn't have tripped over his own feet rushing to the table to sign the papers for the Hall trade in Sept?
Who knows what could have come up by Sept, if nothing then make the Hall trade.
Just bad management (still)

110%

You gonna try and tell me Shero wouldn't have tripped over his own feet rushing to the table to sign the papers for the Hall trade in Sept?
Who knows what could have come up by Sept, if nothing then make the Hall trade.
Just bad management (still)
- ifiwasgm

Bad management?

Chia has been here for one season and he has made the team bigger, tougher, more skilled, and has improved our defense and goaltending... You guys can't be for real... You just can't be. You've gotta be trolling.

Off to bed.

Bad management?

Chia has been here for one season and he has made the team bigger, tougher, more skilled, and has improved our defense and goaltending... You guys can't be for real... You just can't be. You've gotta be trolling.

Off to bed.
- laughs2907

Yes he made some nice easy freebee deals (Maroon, Kassian), I'm still hoping(and believing) Talbot is the answer, Got Lucic(spend like a drunk sailor but I'm still happy about it), but panicking on the Hall deal was bad.

He hasn't done anything a good GM (not MacT) couldn't have done. But he has done something a good GM wouldn't have done.

You don't know thst he rushed into it


He may have been attempting to cultivate deals all season. In fact, this is probably the rational guess.

Furthermore, he stated he first had discussions about larsson LAST summer.


Your assuming there were other trades out there and he jumped the gun.
Thing is we don't know that either is even remotely true


You don't have to like the deal.
But going into another season sans said defender would've been much much worse than this alternative.

Our last 6 seasons trying to mask that deficiency is proof of that.
30th, 29th, 23rd, 28th, 28th, 29th is proof of that.
It cant get worse. What we've been trying has NOT worked
- Ihateallofu

i have to agree

You guys are going to love Hall. I'm hoping Larson makes people realize that the trade isn't as one sided as seems right now. Hopefully 40 games in we are happy with him. I hope he has thick skin, because is going to be heavily scrutinized.

i have to agree
- Trevormac902

Yes the core haven't got us anywhere, we wanted a bold move. Another bottom finish would/will be devastating.

and I have said from day one the trade is bad!! no doubt. but its done. So lets look forward and look at positives. Larsson is a big guy who can skate major minutes as a stay at home d man. a great lead passer from our zone and a great size to slow any teams forwaRDS FROM SKATING HARD TO THE BOARDS.cap lock sorry no dramaticts intended sorry. but seriously look at the team size now. we play in the west and we are finally in the same catagorie as the rest
- Trevormac902

You know there's a delete button right?

Why do some fans think we are "Hall lovers" because we are not happy that Chiarelli got robbed in the Hall deal.
Trade Hall no problem, but for what this team needed, a "top" pairing d-man. Not a "lets hope and pray" player, I think we're a little tired of hope and pray.
- ifiwasgm

Larsson isn't a hope and pray.

He has the experience as a TOP PAIR RHD.

The only thing he hasn't shown so far in the NHL is offense, but he has had good offensive numbers before. I don't expect him to become a Karrlson, but 30-40 with proper PP time is very likely.

My gripe with Chiarelli is that he rushed into this trade. He had 3 months before the season to make a better deal. Seems to me he felt pressured to make a big move so he did it just to say he took action. That's not good management of the team assets IMO.
If he couldn't get Larsson for Ebs or even Nuge, he shouldn't have gone ahead. Hall should have gotten us that offensive RHD we need. By pulling this apparently loop-sided trade, he harmed the Oil for future trades as lesser assets will not yield a return anywhere close to equal value.
I disagreed with his giving up 2 high draft picks for Reinhart, who the Isles were more than happy to get rid of. I worried that such a poor trade then would result in more of the same, and so far that's exactly what we've received.
- haymac

Maybe. But I figured the timing of the trade was precise. He did it to free up Cap space to peruse Lucic. I whole-heartedly dislike the trade. But from a Cap management and timing aspect, I get it. Bad trade.....but waiting was probably NOT an option.

Larsson isn't a hope and pray.

He has the experience as a TOP PAIR RHD.

The only thing he hasn't shown so far in the NHL is offense, but he has had good offensive numbers before. I don't expect him to become a Karrlson, but 30-40 with proper PP time is very likely.
- McSavioursPupil

I dunno...there certainly is a lot of hope and prayer that Larsson puts up those kinda points. Sure as (frank) ain't a sure thing.

I refuse to believe that if other GMs were given the opportunity to land Hall, a team deep in D would have become a better trading partner.
A prudent GM would have waited until most FAs were signed as well as RFAs and arbitration hearings concluded to get into serious trade discussions. At that point there's still 2 months till the season starts, all teams know what they've got and most importantly where they stood against the cap. Then push for a deal.
I just want what's best for the Oil. You acknowledge that there's rumours of other GMs lamenting after the trade that they didn't know Hall really was available...where there's smoke, there's fire. Again, what's the bloody rush? Chiarelli screwed up by actng too soon.
Yes Larsson will help and just maybe he'll show some offensive talent, but that's a guess. With less injuries this year and the young guys having more experience under their belts, I'm more optimistic about the season. I just don't like the trade and feel that Chiarelli is proving himself to be a lousy GM.
- haymac

Except that none of them came forward with another offer.

There are not many teams that are willing to take a hit to help the Oilers. PC has mentioned talking to a few teams. If this was the best deal, think of how bad the others were.

I don't think he has done a bad job. I think he was lead astray on the Reinhart by previous management. Maroon is a definite win. Lucic is market value. Hall was what the market was.

I dunno...there certainly is a lot of hope and prayer that Larsson puts up those kinda points. Sure as (frank) ain't a sure thing.
- Jeropotato

Then that is the fault of the person who is hoping and praying.

Reality shows that AL is a proven top pair defensive dman that got virtually zero PP time.

I am happy with having that proven RHD because that is exactly what this team needed in the worst kind of way.

If offense comes, awesome.

Then that is the fault of the person who is hoping and praying.

Reality shows that AL is a proven top pair defensive dman that got virtually zero PP time.

I am happy with having that proven RHD because that is exactly what this team needed in the worst kind of way.

If offense comes, awesome.
- McSavioursPupil

I'm sure I'll be happy with Larsson. I'm more nervous about the health of this team, and the continued development of Nurse.

EDM will love Larsson. The Devils will miss him and his huge minutes against the best of the best. He is a shut down D man that EDM fans will grow to love. Going to be a tough defensive year in NJ without him. Hall is great and I love the trade but I don't think many Devils fans realize how important Larsson was.

I dunno...there certainly is a lot of hope and prayer that Larsson puts up those kinda points. Sure as (frank) ain't a sure thing.
- Jeropotato

http://devils.nhl.com/clu...son=20142015&view=gamelog

take a look after January 1st when DeBoer got fired 2 seasons ago and they actually gave him PP time, 20 pts in 42 games or something

I'm sure I'll be happy with Larsson. I'm more nervous about the health of this team, and the continued development of Nurse.
- Jeropotato

Fair enough on the health thing. Not much to say about that.

I think this helps develop Nurse, there is now 1 more Dman that is definitely above him in the depth chart, if he stays with the team he can get more sheltered, or he goes to Bakersfield and plays a tonne of minutes.

Absolutely love Talbot... He's a great goalie, he likes the Ghostbusters (pre-feminist versions) and kinda looks like Seth Rollins
- laughs2907

So basically the same as the feminist remake? People can hate the movie all they want fact remains, the originals are nothing more than Nostalgic, they werent good movies or funny by any means.

You guys are going to love Hall. I'm hoping Larson makes people realize that the trade isn't as one sided as seems right now. Hopefully 40 games in we are happy with him. I hope he has thick skin, because is going to be heavily scrutinized.
- doon

You'll love him

We just lost our best player to the Habs

We just lost our best player to the Habs
- willschulme

So glad he's off this team

Larsson isn't a hope and pray.

He has the experience as a TOP PAIR RHD.

The only thing he hasn't shown so far in the NHL is offense, but he has had good offensive numbers before. I don't expect him to become a Karrlson, but 30-40 with proper PP time is very likely.
- McSavioursPupil

So did Fayne when we got him...

You'll love him
- shvingter88

For (frank) sakes dude. You jinxed it. You're supposed to say "DOOMED".

We just lost our best player to the Habs
- willschulme

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