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Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 20 @ 9:15 PM ET
I think your center depth is solid, provided Backes plays limited minutes; he's got a lot of miles on him.

You'll be a bubble team for the short-term, but you're not getting younger, particularly on defense.

However, Rask is still one of the better tenders in the league, so you'll do ok, just need to make sure you don't pull a Vancouver and let your aging talent wallow in mediocrity; should start rebuilding sooner rather than later, move some bodies for a good return while you can, acquire picks, and draft well.

- gravyface


The difference between the Canucks and the Bruins is that the Bruins had their rebuild already. Not the 10 year rebuild that the Oilers and Leafs have had but a minor rebuild.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 20 @ 9:17 PM ET
According to?

Lou should stand firm on this if his beliefs are that players need to earn a bonus. Players usually cave. Larsson did.

- Bruiniak




Ummm, that's what a bonus is. It is earned if he reaches the levels. We're not talking about handing out free money.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 20 @ 9:19 PM ET
The difference between the Canucks and the Bruins is that the Bruins had their rebuild already. Not the 10 year rebuild that the Oilers and Leafs have had but a minor rebuild.
- Bruiniak



Time for a new rebuild.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 20 @ 9:20 PM ET
According to?

Lou should stand firm on this if his beliefs are that players need to earn a bonus. Players usually cave. Larsson did.

- Bruiniak



Not a 1st overall?

Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 20 @ 9:21 PM ET
Ummm, that's what a bonus is. It is earned if he reaches the levels. We're not talking about handing out free money.
- burn


It is free money. They are ridiculously easy to achieve.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 20 @ 9:22 PM ET
Does this guy seriously not understand that the #1 pick from 2016 gets the same deal as the #1 pick from 2015. That the #1 pick doesn't get less than th #2 or #3 pick?

Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 20 @ 9:25 PM ET
Does this guy seriously not understand that the #1 pick from 2016 gets the same deal as the #1 pick from 2015. That the #1 pick doesn't get less than th #2 or #3 pick?
- burn


Ridiculous. Why is that an expectation? That's my issue.

All teams manage their contracts differently.
Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 20 @ 9:25 PM ET
Does this guy seriously not understand that the #1 pick from 2016 gets the same deal as the #1 pick from 2015. That the #1 pick doesn't get less than th #2 or #3 pick?
- burn


Also, do not call me this guy.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 20 @ 9:26 PM ET
It is free money. They are ridiculously easy to achieve.
- Bruiniak



So he reached them..... But they're not earned?


That's great work.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 20 @ 9:27 PM ET
Ridiculous. Why is that an expectation? That's my issue.

All teams manage their contracts differently.

- Bruiniak



Why?


Is this for real?

Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 20 @ 9:28 PM ET
lottery pick this year
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 20 @ 9:29 PM ET
Backes was a 25-30 goal/ 55-60 pts player in a tough division and conference. Backes will be a productive and physical player in a division that isn't all that physical. Backes was made to be a Bruin.
- Bruiniak


"Was" you got that right
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 20 @ 9:30 PM ET
Also, do not call me this guy.
- Bruiniak



Girl?
Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 20 @ 9:32 PM ET
So he reached them..... But they're not earned?


That's great work.

- burn


All I said was that I understand why Lou doesn't want to include bonuses in an ELC contract. It's his beliefs. You probably don't know this but the two parties also have to agree to all the terms in the contract. The player and his agent will push for easy bonuses such as: games played, rookie all-star game, rookie of the month... while Lou will push for bonuses that much harder to achieve such as: scoring 50 pts, 25 goals... This isn't your standard contract contrary to what people are saying.
Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 20 @ 9:33 PM ET
Can anyone help burn understand that not all contracts are the same?
Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 20 @ 9:35 PM ET
"Was" you got that right
- Santo_44


Now you are just trying too hard.

Backes scored that in 2014-2015. He had an injury filled season last year. He's back to 100%.
Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 20 @ 9:37 PM ET
Girl?
- burn


I'm a guy. I just don't like to be refered to as "this guy". It's very condescending.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 20 @ 9:38 PM ET
All I said was that I understand why Lou doesn't want to include bonuses in an ELC contract. It's his beliefs. You probably don't know this but the two parties also have to agree to all the terms in the contract. The player and his agent will push for easy bonuses such as: games played, rookie all-star game, rookie of the month... while Lou will push for bonuses that much harder to achieve such as: scoring 50 pts, 25 goals... This isn't your standard contract contrary to what people are saying.
- Bruiniak



If last year and the year before and the year before and.......... All got those bonuses then this years #1 does as well.

If this years #2 got x bonus, then the guy picked higher can't and shouldn't get less.

I really don't think you understand the bonus structures you're talking about.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 20 @ 9:39 PM ET
If last year and the year before and the year before and.......... All got those bonuses then this years #1 does as well.

If this years #2 got x bonus, then the guy picked higher can't and shouldn't get less.

- burn

and he won't get less, Lou can talk a good as much as he wants but the Leafs need Matthews at camp
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 20 @ 9:40 PM ET
Can anyone help burn understand that not all contracts are the same?
- Bruiniak



Can you show me where/when the last time #1 didn't get those bonuses?

No, eh... Didn't think so
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 20 @ 9:41 PM ET
and he won't get less, Lou can talk a good as much as he wants but the Leafs need Matthews at camp
- Symba007



I'm not worried. Hel get signed. All these leaks and stories..... But yet leafs aren't leaking anything anyone. So I'm not sure I buy much of anything that is talked about in the rumors right now.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jul 20 @ 9:42 PM ET
I'm a guy. I just don't like to be refered to as "this guy". It's very condescending.
- Bruiniak



Tough break.
Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 20 @ 9:45 PM ET
If last year and the year before and the year before and.......... All got those bonuses then this years #1 does as well.

If this years #2 got x bonus, then the guy picked higher can't and shouldn't get less.

I really don't think you understand the bonus structures you're talking about.

- burn


I don't think you understand bonuses either. A certain company might offer incentives to their employees while a better employee might get (frank) all from his company because they do things differently.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 20 @ 9:45 PM ET
Now you are just trying too hard.

Backes scored that in 2014-2015. He had an injury filled season last year. He's back to 100%.

- Bruiniak

No I'm not. Players start to decline at age 32. Exceptions for superstars of course. For players like him it's downhill from here.
Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 20 @ 9:46 PM ET
Can you show me where/when the last time #1 didn't get those bonuses?

No, eh... Didn't think so

- burn


Again. I asked you several times why this mattered? I'm sure it hasn't happened yet but why could it not happen?
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