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Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 20 @ 1:09 PM ET
Go all in: max 8 years at $4.5M so he can walk away at 33 and someone else can overpay for a declining vet.

Considering what gets $4.5-$5M these days that would give the Rangers 3 bargain deals with McD, Zucc, and CK20.

- Maskdman3


I don't think 8 years/$4.5 million per would be that crazy actually, if you can get over the fact to committing 8 years to a guy that can sometimes be flaky.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 20 @ 1:14 PM ET
anyways hows the pup?
- mrn22


Broke his toe over the 4th at a party, but back to being a nutcase again. Its like he hit month 4 and he decided he was crazy.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 20 @ 1:15 PM ET
Reilly Smith, Vincent Trocheck, Filip Forsberg, Nathan MacKinnon, Mark Schiefele, and Mathieu Perreault all come to mind

I think Kreider is better than Smith and Perreault and has a longer track record than Trocheck. Forsberg, MacKinnon and Schiefele are all obviously better than Kreider but they're all making over $6M per on their extensions. So Kreider can say "if Schiefle is making 6.25M per year, I should be at least 5.

- rangerdanger94


Fair point. Lets hope they use Schwartz
Maskdman3
New York Rangers
Location: Gotham City, NY
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 20 @ 1:16 PM ET
I don't think 8 years/$4.5 million per would be that crazy actually, if you can get over the fact to committing 8 years to a guy that can sometimes be flaky.

- Pete V


Yeah I've been on the anti-Kreider train for that very reason...and because I'm still struggling to cope with what constitutes a $4M player now days. Kreider drives me insane with his rollercoaster effort levels.

That said, if the front office feels like that is a coaching issue (because it's not just Kreider experiencing it) then I guess I would just have to suck it up and accept it.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 20 @ 1:22 PM ET
Yeah I've been on the anti-Kreider train for that very reason...and because I'm still struggling to cope with what constitutes a $4M player now days. Kreider drives me insane with his rollercoaster effort levels.

That said, if the front office feels like that is a coaching issue (because it's not just Kreider experiencing it) then I guess I would just have to suck it up and accept it.

- Maskdman3


I think Kreider just needs to play his game and stop thinking or worrying about ref's, coaching, etc. If he can do that he will be much better. The problem is, I don't know if he can.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 20 @ 1:43 PM ET
Fair point. Lets hope they use Schwartz
- mdw7413

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 20 @ 1:59 PM ET
I think Kreider just needs to play his game and stop thinking or worrying about ref's, coaching, etc. If he can do that he will be much better. The problem is, I don't know if he can.
- mdw7413

#drivetothenet
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 20 @ 2:17 PM ET

- rangerdanger94


I just said you have a fair point. I still want him signed at no more than 4.5
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 20 @ 2:20 PM ET
#drivetothenet

- 21peter


I think Kreider is like Kelly from Married With Children. You put info in his head and it knocks out other info. Remember when he came in after the BC playoffs were done and he played great? Torts even said they aren't going to tell him anything just let him play.

Then the coaches get involved and start turning his brain into a pretzel. LetKreiderLoose#
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 20 @ 2:29 PM ET
I think Kreider is like Kelly from Married With Children. You put info in his head and it knocks out other info. Remember when he came in after the BC playoffs were done and he played great? Torts even said they aren't going to tell him anything just let him play.

Then the coaches get involved and start turning his brain into a pretzel. LetKreiderLoose#

- mdw7413

Lenny
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 20 @ 2:32 PM ET
Lenny
- TPC


I forgot I used to call him that
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Jul 20 @ 2:41 PM ET
when is hayes' hearing date?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 20 @ 2:41 PM ET
when is hayes' hearing date?
- NYRangers1124


7/27
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Jul 20 @ 2:43 PM ET
7/27
- jimbro83

thx
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 20 @ 2:47 PM ET
Brooks on Kreider

http://nypost.com/2016/07...s-kreider-before-hearing/
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 20 @ 2:49 PM ET
Per Larry Brooks' column in the NY Post today:
"The parties are in ongoing negotiations concerning a four- or five-year deal that would buy out No. 20’s first two or three years of unrestricted free agency. It is believed the Rangers are offering in the neighborhood of $4.75 million per with Kreider seeking approximately $5.25 million per." Split the difference and get it done? Sounds to be in line with what I had predicted.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 20 @ 2:49 PM ET
Brooks on Kreider

http://nypost.com/2016/07...s-kreider-before-hearing/

- jimbro83

See my post
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Jul 20 @ 2:49 PM ET
Brooks on Kreider

http://nypost.com/2016/07...s-kreider-before-hearing/

- jimbro83

main point of it really:

The parties are in ongoing negotiations concerning a four- or five-year deal that would buy out No. 20’s first two or three years of unrestricted free agency. It is believed the Rangers are offering in the neighborhood of $4.75 million per with Kreider seeking approximately $5.25 million per.


jan's a step ahead

bet get gets something similiar to johannsons contract from earlier today
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 20 @ 2:50 PM ET
main point of it really:

The parties are in ongoing negotiations concerning a four- or five-year deal that would buy out No. 20’s first two or three years of unrestricted free agency. It is believed the Rangers are offering in the neighborhood of $4.75 million per with Kreider seeking approximately $5.25 million per.

- NYRangers1124


5 years 25 million, just get it done
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Jul 20 @ 2:53 PM ET
5 years 25 million, just get it done
- jimbro83

would gladly sign for that

escalating over the final 2-3 years sign it chris lets go
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jul 20 @ 2:53 PM ET
Per Larry Brooks' column in the NY Post today:
"The parties are in ongoing negotiations concerning a four- or five-year deal that would buy out No. 20’s first two or three years of unrestricted free agency. It is believed the Rangers are offering in the neighborhood of $4.75 million per with Kreider seeking approximately $5.25 million per." Split the difference and get it done? Sounds to be in line with what I had predicted.

- airjan23

I said 6 years 5 per last blog. I think it gets done around 5 or 6 years, I would do 6.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 20 @ 2:57 PM ET
Per Larry Brooks' column in the NY Post today:
"The parties are in ongoing negotiations concerning a four- or five-year deal that would buy out No. 20’s first two or three years of unrestricted free agency. It is believed the Rangers are offering in the neighborhood of $4.75 million per with Kreider seeking approximately $5.25 million per." Split the difference and get it done? Sounds to be in line with what I had predicted.

- airjan23

Lesser Matt will be less than pleased
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 20 @ 2:58 PM ET
Lesser Matt will be lesser than pleased
- rangerdanger94

fixed
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 20 @ 2:58 PM ET
Lesser Matt will be less than pleased
- rangerdanger94


I hope Hayes signs for 6
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Jul 20 @ 2:58 PM ET
Lesser Matt will be less than pleased
- rangerdanger94

tpc on the other hand

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