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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 19 @ 7:32 PM ET
If they aren't as high on Pedan then they should trade him.
- A_SteamingLombardi


If they weren't high on Higgins they should of traded him too
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 19 @ 7:33 PM ET
I hear what you are saying but I think there are a lot of question marks with our Defense still and they will want some of that stability that Biega brings.

I also don't think they are as high on Pedan as they were earlier in his career. I can't see them being that upset losing him either.

- belcherbd

Pedan +Sbisa + 4th for MoJo or Kreider
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 19 @ 7:34 PM ET
I hear what you are saying but I think there are a lot of question marks with our Defense still and they will want some of that stability that Biega brings.

I also don't think they are as high on Pedan as they were earlier in his career. I can't see them being that upset losing him either.

- belcherbd

Were you asleep during the whole Corrado fiasco. People here years from now will still be complaining to their grandkids how we let the big one get away
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 19 @ 7:34 PM ET
Pedan +Sbisa + 4th for MoJo or Kreider
- Retinalz


Pedan + Zalewski + Sbisa(50% retained) + 3rd for Gaudreau or Monahan
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 19 @ 7:36 PM ET
Pedan + Zalewski + Sbisa(50% retained) + 3rd for Gaudreau or Monahan
- belcherbd

Can we have both?
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 19 @ 7:39 PM ET
Were you asleep during the whole Corrado fiasco. People here years from now will still be complaining to their grandkids how we let the big one get away
- VANTEL


No but as per usual you are leaving out some of the details....

People were upset that they let Corrado go because it was unnecessary at the time. They had room on their roster if they chose to use it.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 19 @ 7:40 PM ET
Can we have both?
- VANTEL


Don't be ridiculous
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 19 @ 7:42 PM ET
No but as per usual you are leaving out some of the details....

People were upset that they let Corrado go because it was unnecessary at the time. They had room on their roster if they chose to use it.

- belcherbd

The worst team in the league , with a horrible D still haven't made him an offer. I think I will be able to sleep comfortably even though it was a horrible loss
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 19 @ 7:43 PM ET
No I wouldn't expose Pedan over Biega.

I also think Pedan is more likely to be claimed out of the two of them but I think the impact of losing Biega would be more detrimental to this team's goal.

Edit.for your edit. Then you would understand why this team would waive Pedan

- belcherbd

If this team requires Biega to play regularly we aren't making the playoffs. He won't be playing unless we are hit with several injuries.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 19 @ 7:44 PM ET
Were you asleep during the whole Corrado fiasco. People here years from now will still be complaining to their grandkids how we let the big one get away
- VANTEL

belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 19 @ 7:49 PM ET
If this team requires Biega to play regularly we aren't making the playoffs. He won't be playing unless we are hit with several injuries.
- CanuckDon


Ya, planning for that would be a waste a time.... Look I'm stoked to see what Tryamkin and Larsen bring and if Hutton can continue his development but they are far from sure things.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 19 @ 7:51 PM ET
I don't understand that?

If a team claims him they wouldn't be able to send the player down and save that additional money without Van or some other team getting to claim him.

- belcherbd

It's a 750K one way contract for a player that before last year had 7 NHL games, if he hadn't played so many games because of injuries last year no other team would even look at him.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 19 @ 8:04 PM ET
The worst team in the league , with a horrible D still haven't made him an offer. I think I will be able to sleep comfortably even though it was a horrible loss
- VANTEL

I'm glad you've calmed down since your threat of offersheeting Morgan as retaliation.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 19 @ 8:06 PM ET
Ya, planning for that would be a waste a time.... Look I'm stoked to see what Tryamkin and Larsen bring and if Hutton can continue his development but they are far from sure things.
- belcherbd

What are you getting at? Biega is not important to the Canucks. If Larsen, Sbisa, and Tryamkin get injured then yes, he may play. If he is forced to play 25 plus games then the season is likely lost. The Canucks have planned for injuries as can clearly be seen from our improved depth on the back end. If you are proposing losing Pedan to waivers to protect Biega..well I am speechless.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 19 @ 8:37 PM ET
What are you getting at? Biega is not important to the Canucks. If Larsen, Sbisa, and Tryamkin get injured then yes, he may play. If he is forced to play 25 plus games then the season is likely lost. The Canucks have planned for injuries as can clearly be seen from our improved depth on the back end. If you are proposing losing Pedan to waivers to protect Biega..well I am speechless.
- CanuckDon


I'm not proposing anything, like I clearly said, I could see them protecting him over Pedan.

My point was those players are relatively unknown, assuming they will all be better than Biega at this point is pretty naive. Larsen and/or Tryamkin might be back in the Europe by Xmas for all we know. That "improved " depth on the back end has played what 60-70 games at the NHL level the last 3 seasons?
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 19 @ 8:38 PM ET
It's a 750K one way contract for a player that before last year had 7 NHL games, if he hadn't played so many games because of injuries last year no other team would even look at him.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I agree, but the contract he signed allowing him to make his full salary in the AHL won't shelter him from being picked up or at least understand why it would.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 19 @ 9:12 PM ET
I'm not proposing anything, like I clearly said, I could see them protecting him over Pedan.

My point was those players are relatively unknown, assuming they will all be better than Biega at this point is pretty naive. Larsen and/or Tryamkin might be back in the Europe by Xmas for all we know. That "improved " depth on the back end has played what 60-70 games at the NHL level the last 3 seasons?

- belcherbd


That is a pretty pessimistic view.

Edler/Tanev
Hutton/ EG
Larsen/ Sbisa
Pedan/ Biega

Why is it naïve to think they will all be better than Biega? Larsen has way more NHL experience than Biega. Tryamkin also has more high level pro experience. Put it this way, if Larsen and Tree fizzle out and end up back in Europe (highly unlikely), Benning will sign or trade for another player. Biega will be in Utica
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 19 @ 9:17 PM ET
That is a pretty pessimistic view.

Edler/Tanev
Hutton/ EG
Larsen/ Sbisa
Pedan/ Biega

Why is it naïve to think they will all be better than Biega? Larsen has way more NHL experience than Biega. Tryamkin also has more high level pro experience. Put it this way, if Larsen and Tree fizzle out and end up back in Europe (highly unlikely), Benning will sign or trade for another player. Biega will be in Utica

- CanuckDon

You have Sbisa, Pedan, and Biega higher than Tryamkin on your list?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 19 @ 9:21 PM ET
I agree, but the contract he signed allowing him to make his full salary in the AHL won't shelter him from being picked up or at least understand why it would.
- belcherbd

Why would another team pay an AHL player an NHL salary with 7 games of NHL experience?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 19 @ 9:31 PM ET
The worst team in the league , with a horrible D still haven't made him an offer. I think I will be able to sleep comfortably even though it was a horrible loss
- VANTEL


Another VAN castoff to the worst team in the league. More to come...
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 19 @ 9:35 PM ET
Another VAN castoff to the worst team in the league. More to come...
- VanHockeyGuy

Probably trade him for a 2nd round pick.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 19 @ 9:36 PM ET
You have Sbisa, Pedan, and Biega higher than Tryamkin on your list?
- Retinalz


Still don't know what we have there, he will be fun to watch, I hope.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jul 19 @ 9:37 PM ET
Probably trade him for a 2nd round pick.
- walshyleafsfan


That would never happen. Book it.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 19 @ 9:41 PM ET
That would never happen. Book it.
- VanHockeyGuy

I thought that about Polak, Spalling, Winnik and Dion.

LL must have some dodgy pics of other GM'S
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 19 @ 9:46 PM ET
I thought that about Polak, Spalling, Winnik and Dion.

LL must have some dodgy pics of other GM'S

- walshyleafsfan

That's ok I seen who you guys took with your second round pick. My suggestion with the way you guys pick , stock pile all you can get. Stockpile them like a squirell gathering nuts for the winter.
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