Staple is saying has a chance to win that spot.. Strome played 30 games at wing two years ago next to JT and about the same last year so let's not pretend that he had 50 points in 14/15 because he was never moved out of position
- Dan Petriw

Well yeah that's kind of my point. Not making pretend anything. There's no continuity with anything. Just because we won a game with Brian Strait in the line up does that mean he's the reason we won the game? The same could be said with bouncing a developing center man all over the line up and out of position. He got 50 points but is that the right way to develop a player? Not imo

Wait Staple has Strome on wing? He must not have gotten the memo from Snow that because Frans left Stromer is going to be much better and belongs at center
- nyisles7

Yes all along he was better suited as a center Capuano didn't get that memo either. Either that or Kulemin and grabovski were just better? Idk?

It's a stupid way of developing kids imo. Bounce them all over the line up and if they don't work outside their natural position bench them. Strome was probably our best defensive fwdthe season bfr last. On any given night his line mates could change or he could be on the wing or playing center. Then he was on the wing all of last season and NOW Snow says he's better suited as a center and Staple has Barzal who has never played an NHL shift centering the 2nd line with Strome on the wing
- Cptmjl

Cpt, Stormer was on the wing 95% of the time his rookie year.

Saying he played poorly last year because he was on the wing versus being at center is a cop out and sh1tty excuse for his uninspired play. Your playing in the pros kid, step up and quit crying this isn't Jrs. your getting paid to play.

Edit : Not to mention I believe he played the wing for Canada at the world Jrs with Nugent - Hopkins being the lines center. He played pretty well on the wing there as well.

I kind of like Staples lines. I think Strome is being tested. If he wants to be 2C he better out play Barzal and anyone else to do so.

I agree also putting Strome with Bailey and Kumelin is a death sentence as they are two for most lethargic, non-intense and un-Motivated players on the team. Im going to think that both of those guys weren't at all bothered when they lost to tampa in 2nd round.

Just Staple's instinct, not like that was from a team source or anything.


Is Staples well respected by the Isles fan base for the most part?

Just Staple's instinct, not like that was from a team source or anything.


Is Staples well respected by the Isles fan base for the most part?
- Wildschwein

And this will be the end of the thread for today.

Let me save everyone the time and tell you that most of the posters here will tell you that he's just a puppet of the Isles front office, that he doesn't know anything, doesn't ask the hard questions and/or isn't critical enough of the team/front office/owners/etc.

I don't agree with most of that, but that will probably be the general sentiment you'll get in reply to this post.

Just Staple's instinct, not like that was from a team source or anything.


Is Staples well respected by the Isles fan base for the most part?
- Wildschwein

I'm not going to answer for everyone else, but I think he just parrots whatever Snow tells him. I don't think he's insightful and I don't put much stock in his speculations.

And this will be the end of the thread for today.

Let me save everyone the time and tell you that most of the posters here will tell you that he's just a puppet of the Isles front office, that he doesn't know anything, doesn't ask the hard questions and/or isn't critical enough of the team/front office/owners/etc.

I don't agree with most of that, but that will probably be the general sentiment you'll get in reply to this post.
- eichiefs9

It was kind of quiet anyway.

Here's something we thought was coming.
https://www.sny.tv/island...o-the-new-snytv/157625422

Just Staple's instinct, not like that was from a team source or anything.


Is Staples well respected by the Isles fan base for the most part?
- Wildschwein

To further what I meant by the bolded comment, he was just answering questions for the fanbase today to break up some of the newsless-summer monotony. Someone asked what his guess at the lines on opening night would be and that was his gut feeling, if the roster remains as currently assembled.

He did, a few weeks ago, mention that Snow planned on Strome playing at 2C. This was purely his opinion. Just like everyone else in the world, I think he's entitled to hear one thing and feel another.

And this will be the end of the thread for today.

Let me save everyone the time and tell you that most of the posters here will tell you that he's just a puppet of the Isles front office, that he doesn't know anything, doesn't ask the hard questions and/or isn't critical enough of the team/front office/owners/etc.

I don't agree with most of that, but that will probably be the general sentiment you'll get in reply to this post.
- eichiefs9

Yeah, I don't have a huge problem with the guy either. Because he doesn't go out of his way to criticize the team, or its coaches or front office, he has better access to Snow than most. So his insights tend to be based more on fact and less on conjecture. IMO, this more than compensates for any lack of hockey knowledge.

Yeah, I don't have a huge problem with the guy either. Because he doesn't go out of his way to criticize the team, or its coaches or front office, he has better access to Snow than most. So his insights tend to be based more on fact and less on conjecture. IMO, this more than compensates for any lack of hockey knowledge.
- JohnScammo

I never understood people yelling at beat writers about "hockey knowledge". Maybe they didn't grow up playing the game, but their job (at least the dedicated-hockey beat writers) requires them to be in-and-around a professional team and its management staff full-time. I guarantee you Art Staple knows more about how things work then some fat hack that plays beer league and never made it best the LI high school hockey or travel b-team level.

To answer your next question:

Yes. In the last sentence of that paragraph, I was referring to myself.

I never understood people yelling at beat writers about "hockey knowledge". Maybe they didn't grow up playing the game, but their job (at least the dedicated-hockey beat writers) requires them to be in-and-around a professional team and its management staff full-time. I guarantee you Art Staple knows more about how things work then some fat hack that plays beer league and never made it best the LI high school hockey or travel b-team level.

To answer your next question:

Yes. In the last sentence of that paragraph, I was referring to myself.
- eichiefs9

You're still way ahead of me. I never made it past pond hockey.

I like when camp is competitive. its made the islanders better. I would like to see Prince compete to take Bailey spot too. Bailey actually plays a lot better when his spot in line up is at risk, and at his worst when he feels safe

You're still way ahead of me. I never made it past pond hockey.
- JohnScammo

You're still way ahead of me. I never made it past pond hockey.
- JohnScammo

"Hey, it's me the guy that plays E-league men's hockey and can't skate...but I am telling you that you never played and don't know anything about the game!" hurr durrrr

Here's something we thought was coming.
https://www.sny.tv/island...o-the-new-snytv/157625422
- nyisles7

what happens if he retires because of his injuries? Can the isle force that? What about cap hit then?

"Hey, it's me the guy that plays E-league men's hockey and can't skate...but I am telling you that you never played and don't know anything about the game!" hurr durrrr
- eichiefs9

Don't forget Defensemen of the year award Chiefs

And this will be the end of the thread for today.

Let me save everyone the time and tell you that most of the posters here will tell you that he's just a puppet of the Isles front office, that he doesn't know anything, doesn't ask the hard questions and/or isn't critical enough of the team/front office/owners/etc.

I don't agree with most of that, but that will probably be the general sentiment you'll get in reply to this post.
- eichiefs9

AH! I see.

what happens if he retires because of his injuries? Can the isle force that? What about cap hit then?
- floridaronnie

His cap hit will disappear if he retires.

The Islanders can "force" that as much as any other employer. Aka: not at all.

They can suggest it and offer him a position within the organization as incentive, but they're contractually obligated to pay him until he decides to retire on his own.

what happens if he retires because of his injuries? Can the isle force that? What about cap hit then?
- floridaronnie

Don't think the Islanders can force him to retire.

If he's put on LTIR the Islanders do get Cap relief until he's ready to come back.

It would be handled similar to Savard with the Bruins and Pronger with the flyers I believe.

Don't think the Islanders can force him to retire.

If he's put on LTIR the Islanders do get Cap relief until he's ready to come back.

It would be handled similar to Savard with the Bruins and Pronger with the flyers I believe.
- nyisles7

Not necessarily.

Not necessarily.
- eichiefs9

Why?

I know it depends on the replacements salary etc. and isn't cut and dry but for all intensive purposes they get relief. Or am I missing something?

Why?

I know it depends on the replacements salary etc. and isn't cut and dry but for all intensive purposes they get relief. Or am I missing something?
- nyisles7

Forget the post I deleted, it was poorly explained.

Simply put:

You are allowed to exceed the league-mandated salary cap upper limit by the amount that the LTIR'd player puts you over said upper limit. Or "save" on the injured player's cap hit)

So, using an upper limit of $73,000,000:

Islanders current cap hit is: $69,341,475
They have cap space in the amount of: $3,658,525
Grabovski's cap hit: $5M

So:

$69,341,475 (current team cap) + $5,000,000 (Grabo cap hit) = $74,341,475

Upper limit is $73,000,000. So that means we would be exceeding the cap by $1,341,475.

So if Grabovski was placed on LTIR, we would be allowed to exceed the upper limit (or we'd "save") $1,341,475 in cap space.

Now, assuming that there are no trades, if the Isles re-sign Strome...that puts the team cap hit higher and, subsequently, Grabovski's personal cap hit to push the team's payroll further past the upper limit...resulting in more "savings" or allow the Islanders to exceed the upper limit by a larger amount for the duration of his LTIR stint.

Forget the post I deleted, it was poorly explained.

Simply put:

You are allowed to exceed the league-mandated salary cap upper limit by the amount that the LTIR'd player puts you over said upper limit. Or "save" on the injured player's cap hit)

So, using an upper limit of $73,000,000:

Islanders current cap hit is: $69,341,475
They have cap space in the amount of: $3,658,525
Grabovski's cap hit: $5M

So:

$69,341,475 (current team cap) + $5,000,000 (Grabo cap hit) = $74,341,475

Upper limit is $73,000,000. So that means we would be exceeding the cap by $1,341,475.

So if Grabovski was placed on LTIR, we would be allowed to exceed the upper limit (or we'd "save") $1,341,475 in cap space.

Now, assuming that there are no trades, if the Isles re-sign Strome...that puts the team cap hit higher and, subsequently, Grabovski's personal cap hit to push the team's payroll further past the upper limit...resulting in more "savings" or allow the Islanders to exceed the upper limit by a larger amount for the duration of his LTIR stint.
- eichiefs9

Correct The closer to the Cap limit the more "relief" you get.
At the end of the day simply put, if you need the relief placing a player on LTIR does give you relief. You Putz !