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nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 19 @ 3:19 PM ET
100 percent agree here. Risky, but he's worth it.
- Mancalledsting

Could be but I think Kucherov sin't going any where unless someone throws the mother load at SY.
I think Bishop, Garrison,Filppula, and Coburn are the candidates most likely moved to make some cap space. That said you never know.
btbossman
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 03.13.2013

Jul 19 @ 3:46 PM ET
In this case.. I would offer sheet Kucherov (and I never advocate that) and give up the first second and third rounders
- Dan Petriw



I think Stevie Y would match and unload salaries for what he can.. Would he trade Kucherov for picks without the offer sheet? Can't see him taking that deal.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 19 @ 4:00 PM ET
I think Stevie Y would match and unload salaries for what he can.. Would he trade Kucherov for picks without the offer sheet? Can't see him taking that deal.
- btbossman

They're not dealing Kucherov, nor is anyone offer sheeting him. Especially not Snow, he loves doing business with Yzerman and isn't going to burn that bridge.

They will inevitably trade Bishop, either to us or DAL. They may be able to convince Filppula to waive his NMC. They'll find a way to get Kucherov under the cap at a fair price.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 19 @ 4:06 PM ET
They're not dealing Kucherov, nor is anyone offer sheeting him. Especially not Snow, he loves doing business with Yzerman and isn't going to burn that bridge.

They will inevitably trade Bishop, either to us or DAL. They may be able to convince Filppula to waive his NMC. They'll find a way to get Kucherov under the cap at a fair price.

- eichiefs9


What business or deals have they ever done together ? I can't remember one Chief.
btbossman
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 03.13.2013

Jul 19 @ 4:09 PM ET
They're not dealing Kucherov, nor is anyone offer sheeting him. Especially not Snow, he loves doing business with Yzerman and isn't going to burn that bridge.

They will inevitably trade Bishop, either to us or DAL. They may be able to convince Filppula to waive his NMC. They'll find a way to get Kucherov under the cap at a fair price.

- eichiefs9



I agree... I think the Bolts and Flames are waiting to see who gets signed first to use as comps. Gaudreau, Monahan, and Kucherov should all be in that Scheifele range of 6-6.5 per
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Jul 19 @ 4:09 PM ET
They're not dealing Kucherov, nor is anyone offer sheeting him. Especially not Snow, he loves doing business with Yzerman and isn't going to burn that bridge.

They will inevitably trade Bishop, either to us or DAL. They may be able to convince Filppula to waive his NMC. They'll find a way to get Kucherov under the cap at a fair price.

- eichiefs9


I agree
ShayneCorsi
Location: Teedot
Joined: 07.09.2012

Jul 19 @ 4:11 PM ET
Nice blog title!
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 19 @ 4:13 PM ET
I agree... I think the Bolts and Flames are waiting to see who gets signed first to use as comps. Gaudreau, Monahan, and Kucherov should all be in that Scheifele range of 6-6.5 per
- btbossman


Agree, Tarasenko(sp) I think is a good comp to Kucherov and he's at 6.5 as well.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 19 @ 4:17 PM ET
barzal is only prospect i wouldnt trade. I think he going to be best player not name Tavares that we drafted.

Ironic - in 2011 strome was drafted 5th, Kucherov was drafted 58th and Strome and De Colle wouldn't be enough to get him. Amazing how it works.

kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jul 19 @ 4:24 PM ET
I agree
- Dan Petriw



You agree that the isles shouldnt offer sheet him.....or won't?
btbossman
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 03.13.2013

Jul 19 @ 4:29 PM ET
barzal is only prospect i wouldnt trade. I think he going to be best player not name Tavares that we drafted.

Ironic - in 2011 strome was drafted 5th, Kucherov was drafted 58th and Strome and De Colle wouldn't be enough to get him. Amazing how it works.

- Spartiarti



LB- Isles should have drafted Dougie Hamilton in that spot instead of Strome
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 19 @ 4:41 PM ET
What business or deals have they ever done together ? I can't remember one Chief.
- nyisles7

Rolosson trade
Gervais trade
Trading up to take Ho Sang
Trading up to take Beauvillier

Not saying there were any groundbreaking deals, but they have a history of doing business. Even if offer sheets were relatively common, I'd have a hard time believing that Snow would screw him like that.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 19 @ 4:45 PM ET
LB- Isles should have drafted Dougie Hamilton in that spot instead of Strome
- btbossman


very true BT . that's draft was actually full of studs just seems we missed them. That's the power of having good scouts.

Zibanjad #6, Scheifele #7, Coutourier #8, Hamilton #9, Brodin #10, JT miller #15, Saad at 43, Trochek 64th , Gaudreau at 104, Shaw at 139, Palat at 208th.

All these guys have done more than Strome has for us those far.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 19 @ 4:58 PM ET
Rolosson trade
Gervais trade
Trading up to take Ho Sang
Trading up to take Beauvillier

Not saying there were any groundbreaking deals, but they have a history of doing business. Even if offer sheets were relatively common, I'd have a hard time believing that Snow would screw him like that.

- eichiefs9


What sort of compensation would Tampa be looking at if Kucherov signed the offer?
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 19 @ 5:00 PM ET
What sort of compensation would Tampa be looking at if Kucherov signed the offer?
- Wildschwein


if he was signed above 5.5MM It would be a 1st,2nd and 3rd pick as per they NHL bargaining agreement. under 5.5M it would be a 1st and a 3rd.

nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 19 @ 5:03 PM ET
Rolosson trade
Gervais trade
Trading up to take Ho Sang
Trading up to take Beauvillier

Not saying there were any groundbreaking deals, but they have a history of doing business. Even if offer sheets were relatively common, I'd have a hard time believing that Snow would screw him like that.

- eichiefs9


Minor deals for sure but deals none the less.
My thought is most GM's won't and don't play that game but hell for Kuch, phuck um business is businessOFFER SHEET HIM!
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 19 @ 5:05 PM ET
if he was signed above 5.5MM It would be a 1st,2nd and 3rd pick as per they NHL bargaining agreement. under 5.5M it would be a 1st and a 3rd.
- Spartiarti


So not worth it for Tampa to lose him. Auf Wiedersehen Herr Bishop.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 19 @ 5:06 PM ET
very true BT . that's draft was actually full of studs just seems we missed them. That's the power of having good scouts.

Zibanjad #6, Scheifele #7, Coutourier #8, Hamilton #9, Brodin #10, JT miller #15, Saad at 43, Trochek 64th , Gaudreau at 104, Shaw at 139, Palat at 208th.

All these guys have done more than Strome has for us those far.

- Spartiarti


Totally agree, this is where the Islanders were lacking under Wang and it was good to hear Ledecky mention this the other day.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 19 @ 5:18 PM ET
So not worth it for Tampa to lose him. Auf Wiedersehen Herr Bishop.
- Wildschwein


LOL Schwein, leaving Thursday for Berlin, Hamberg, Rothenburg and Munich.
Can't wait gonna be a blast, Ein Prosit !
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 19 @ 5:21 PM ET
LOL Schwein, leaving Thursday for Berlin, Hamberg, Rothenburg and Munich.
Can't wait gonna be a blast, Ein Prosit !

- nyisles7


Du Glückspilz!

Have a beer for me would you? Preferably a nice rich dunkle Bier.
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Jul 19 @ 5:27 PM ET
You agree that the isles shouldnt offer sheet him.....or won't?
- kindlyrick



I would offer sheet him. I agree that yzerman will find a way to keep him. Id be shocked if he was traded
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Jul 19 @ 5:28 PM ET
very true BT . that's draft was actually full of studs just seems we missed them. That's the power of having good scouts.

Zibanjad #6, Scheifele #7, Coutourier #8, Hamilton #9, Brodin #10, JT miller #15, Saad at 43, Trochek 64th , Gaudreau at 104, Shaw at 139, Palat at 208th.

All these guys have done more than Strome has for us those far.

- Spartiarti



We can do this with every draft every season
btbossman
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 03.13.2013

Jul 19 @ 5:31 PM ET
very true BT . that's draft was actually full of studs just seems we missed them. That's the power of having good scouts.

Zibanjad #6, Scheifele #7, Coutourier #8, Hamilton #9, Brodin #10, JT miller #15, Saad at 43, Trochek 64th , Gaudreau at 104, Shaw at 139, Palat at 208th.

All these guys have done more than Strome has for us those far.

- Spartiarti



Scheifele was a big leap at #7 many had him going in the teens. But Isles need D-men and Hamilton was the guy many scouts had higher them Strome. If they did maybe the don't draft Griffin Reinhart the following year and take Forsberg who again many scouts had higher.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Wrong timing, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jul 19 @ 5:32 PM ET
Du Glückspilz!

Have a beer for me would you? Preferably a nice rich dunkle Bier.

- Wildschwein


That would be my pleasure!
I'm not thrilled with the temperature its served at but I think I can force it down
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 19 @ 5:48 PM ET
That would be my pleasure!
I'm not thrilled with the temperature its served at but I think I can force it down

- nyisles7


Oh I'm sure you'll manage.
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