Looks like Sale is getting traded.....but not before an altercation with the front office in the locker room that is now headline news on ESPN.

Talk about a complete dumpster fire.....the Chicago White Sox no longer deserve me as a fan. I'm too good for them. Its official. LETS GO CUBS!!!!

Looks like Sale is getting traded.....but not before an altercation with the front office in the locker room that is now headline news on ESPN.

Talk about a complete dumpster fire.....the Chicago White Sox no longer deserve me as a fan. I'm too good for them. Its official. LETS GO CUBS!!!!
- SimpleJack

He cut several of the 76 throwback jerseys to pieces so they couldn't wear them tonight. He asked not to wear them because they are uncomfortable and they wouldn't relent.

He cut several of the 76 throwback jerseys to pieces so they couldn't wear them tonight. He asked not to wear them because they are uncomfortable and they wouldn't relent.
- TTtime

Unreal. What a fiasco.

Let me wade my way through all these non-hockey posts.

Guys we are getting word the Jimmy Vesey took a swim off Cape Cod. Coincidentally Stan Bowman and his family are vacationing on the Cape this weekend.

Blog coming from Garth, that Stan was scene with binoculars around his neck.

Guys we are getting word the Jimmy Vesey took a swim off Cape Cod. Coincidentally Stan Bowman and his family are vacationing on the Cape this weekend.

Blog coming from Garth, that Stan was scene with binoculars around his neck.
- Omahawk

Lol

Let me wade my way through all these non-hockey posts.
- Ogilthorpe2

Come on Captain its not even hockey season

Weird...

Maybe he's just tired of bouncing around or there there's no interest in him at anymore at the NHL level?
- Hank3Henshaw

Maybe he wants to play on bigger ice!

Bern is a nice little city.

Absolutely not.

If you're over the age of 10, you can't switch teams just because one is doing better than the other.

You're a grown man, right?

You can't make the change.
- Hank3Henshaw

Can't you get to a point where you've had enough of owner and the organization. I'll tell you, I was really a fan of both (I know you're not supposed to do that), also was a Bulls fan, but I just can't handle the incompetence in both those organizations.

Kenny Williams meddling and Prima Dona status, and for God's sake - Gar Foreman, I just can't take it anymore, its allowed to go on.

I was the same way the end of Lovie, actually got to a hate status with his arrogance, (but actually love him as an Illini hire), then those two buffoons Emery and Trestman, I cancelled my Sunday Ticket on Directv, but then the Bears ownership, as incompetent as it has been, got fed up and did something about it, so I'm back to my Sunday Ticket.

Theo, Jed and Jason - you really can't say enough about that change.

No, you can switch, you don't have to be fans of incompetence, its a free country.

One last Sox buffoonery, It is simply impossible for a person to watch a game that Hawk is announcing, I know he's cut back his schedule, but that is like nails on a chalkboard.

My 10 yr old doesn't whine that much.

Go on budgetgolf.com
or Ebay and you will be shocked at how cheap they are both selling New golf shoes
- Maggie

Got my Callaway shoes for $29 bucks, had to go with the closeout grey, but love them.

Let me wade my way through all these non-hockey posts.
- Ogilthorpe2

Dwayne Wade?

Can't you get to a point where you've had enough of owner and the organization. I'll tell you, I was really a fan of both (I know you're not supposed to do that), also was a Bulls fan, but I just can't handle the incompetence in both those organizations.

Kenny Williams meddling and Prima Dona status, and for God's sake - Gar Foreman, I just can't take it anymore, its allowed to go on.

I was the same way the end of Lovie, actually got to a hate status with his arrogance, (but actually love him as an Illini hire), then those two buffoons Emery and Trestman, I cancelled my Sunday Ticket on Directv, but then the Bears ownership, as incompetent as it has been, got fed up and did something about it, so I'm back to my Sunday Ticket.

Theo, Jed and Jason - you really can't say enough about that change.

No, you can switch, you don't have to be fans of incompetence, its a free country.

One last Sox buffoonery, It is simply impossible for a person to watch a game that Hawk is announcing, I know he's cut back his schedule, but that is like nails on a chalkboard.

My 10 yr old doesn't whine that much.
- vabeachbear

Top to bottom, that is one horrendous organization 9 miles South of Wrigley. And while I will never be a fan, I felt bad for some of the truly good guys who came through over the years and didn't win. Guys who were really, really good players, good teammates and good men, like Baines and Thome for instance. Luckily Paulie won one. 2005 has now officially become a fluke or better yet, lightning in a bottle.

The key to the whole thing on the North side is Jason Mcleod. Make no bones about it. He is the reason the Cubs went from nothing to the top in org depth in under 4 years.

Sale isn't going anywhere cuz of this. It's not nearly the issue of the March incident. They have one of the best pitchers at a very cost controlled price for 3+ years. Not sure anyone will pay their price. Quintana on the other hand...perhaps.

Sick of baseball, basketball and golf chat! Hate that there's no real hockey news to talk about. Looks like it's Vesey watch until 8/15 and then a lull until the Workd Cup starts.

More on Vesey to Chicago - but no real news there: http://www.todaysslapshot...ckhawks-land-jimmy-vesey/

Posted this up thread but ICYMI (and you want a laugh) funny post on Vesey to Chicago from the Blues perspective: http://bleedinblue.com/20...y-several-times-a-season/

I think it would be awesome to land Vesey for myriad reasons, not the least of which is to watch the rest of the central complain!

Interesting take on the game's speed from Brad Richards. https://ca.sports.yahoo.c...-in-hockey-134805489.html

IMO the way he described the game today, pure north-south speed, pucks to the net, crash the net, look for rebounds, block tons of shots was exactly how the Pens won the cup and how Sullivan coached them. I'd add a stifling speed backcheck as well.
- Mr Ricochet

I think Richards is correct when he says speed doesn't equate to creativity. Guys like Stahlberg skate themselves into trouble more times than not but having speed certainly doesn't preclude one from being creative, you just need to be more skilled to do so...... Love watching those types as they seem to have 6 gears and know how and when to use them. Guys like Stahlberg have one gear.

He also mentions there isn't much east-west play. True, the defense is just too fast for much of that on an 85 ft wide surface. Plenty of that in a 4 on 4 or 3 on 3. More space allows for it. Plenty of east-west on a 100 foot wide surface.

Add the hard cap. It makes the league younger and guys with more speed and a less developed game are forced in when they should have another year or two in the AHL.

Two things I'm surprised weren't mentioned. Firstly how much the speed increases injury. Read Bobby Orr saying he thinks the red line needs to come back to slow the game down for safety's sake.

Also Puck Daddy says the radical solution to "problems" Richards mentions is to go 4 on 4 all the time. IMO the "radical" solution is to make the surface international size, 100 feet wide.

That will allow the space needed for creativity, more speed, more safety, less packing in below the circles, more flow, less grabbing/clutching, less poor skaters on rosters and more scoring. Most every on ice issue is solved by a bigger surface. ........ But we know this will never happen due to cost.

I think Richards is correct when he says speed doesn't equate to creativity. Guys like Stahlberg skate themselves into trouble more times than not but having speed certainly doesn't preclude one from being creative, you just need to be more skilled to do so...... Love watching those types as they seem to have 6 gears and know how and when to use them. Guys like Stahlberg have one gear.

He also mentions there isn't much east-west play. True, the defense is just too fast for much of that on an 85 ft wide surface. Plenty of that in a 4 on 4 or 3 on 3. More space allows for it. Plenty of east-west on a 100 foot wide surface.

Add the hard cap. It makes the league younger and guys with more speed and a less developed game are forced in when they should have another year or two in the AHL.

Two things I'm surprised weren't mentioned. Firstly how much the speed increases injury. Read Bobby Orr saying he thinks the red line needs to come back to slow the game down for safety's sake.

Also Puck Daddy says the radical solution to "problems" Richards mentions is to go 4 on 4 all the time. IMO the "radical" solution is to make the surface international size, 100 feet wide.

That will allow the space needed for creativity, more speed, more safety, less packing in below the circles, more flow, less grabbing/clutching, less poor skaters on rosters and more scoring. Most every on ice issue is solved by a bigger surface. ........ But we know this will never happen due to cost.
- Mr Ricochet

The only radical solutions that are doable (and, as you say, bigger ice isn't) and don't change the basic nature of the game (as permanent 4x4 would) are:

Reduce goalie equipment by getting rid of the extra sweater fabric (which catches a lot of pucks) and reducing the size of the glove (Al's prescription, and a good one).

Call the damn holding, grabbing, and other interference penalties in the neutral zone.

Call at the the more blatant cross-checks around the net.

If LA trades Scuderi they can not retain any salary. A NHL contract can only have salary retained on it twice in a trade and Pens and Chicago already retained part of the salary on this contract for Scuderi.

I think the only way the Hawks get some cap back, is if he end up retiring.
- breadbag

I think if they trade him (knowing they cannot retain salary) or waive him trying to send him to the minors I would think he would retire.

Is there anything preventing the Kings/Hawks/Pens from encouraging him to retire and give him a front office, scouting, or AHL coaching contract for a few years at an extremely high pay rate for those positions.

The only radical solutions that are doable (and, as you say, bigger ice isn't) and don't change the basic nature of the game (as permanent 4x4 would) are:

Reduce goalie equipment by getting rid of the extra sweater fabric (which catches a lot of pucks) and reducing the size of the glove (Al's prescription, and a good one).

Call the damn holding, grabbing, and other interference penalties in the neutral zone.

Call at the the more blatant cross-checks around the net.
- StLBravesFan[/quoteey

Totally agree on the goalie glove (8" wide 15" long) glove. The puck is 3". Why do they have gloves that can catch basketballs (9+" diameter)? It is not a safety issue. At least move from an outfielders glove to an infielders glove (about 1.5"+/- difference). I think 6.5" wide and 13.5" long would be a start.

Erik Gustafsson changed his number from 52 to 56.

#hotbreakingsummerhockeynews

Erik Gustafsson changed his number from 52 to 56.

#hotbreakingsummerhockeynews
- DarthKane

And Freddy?

The only radical solutions that are doable (and, as you say, bigger ice isn't) and don't change the basic nature of the game (as permanent 4x4 would) are:

Reduce goalie equipment by getting rid of the extra sweater fabric (which catches a lot of pucks) and reducing the size of the glove (Al's prescription, and a good one).

Call the damn holding, grabbing, and other interference penalties in the neutral zone.

Call at the the more blatant cross-checks around the net.
- StLBravesFan

Erik Gustafsson changed his number from 52 to 56.

#hotbreakingsummerhockeynews
- DarthKane

Gustafsson has potential. Like many young defenders, he has to refine his defensive game. I hope he improves in the remaining offseason. I do like that he has some meanness to his game.

The only radical solutions that are doable (and, as you say, bigger ice isn't) and don't change the basic nature of the game (as permanent 4x4 would) are:

Reduce goalie equipment by getting rid of the extra sweater fabric (which catches a lot of pucks) and reducing the size of the glove (Al's prescription, and a good one).

Call the damn holding, grabbing, and other interference penalties in the neutral zone.

Call at the the more blatant cross-checks around the net.
- StLBravesFan

Actually, these should not even be considered radical. They're common sense. Sure there could be arguments on the exact goalie equipment sizing, so start with early 80's and go from there, including leg pads and blocker. Sweater size is an interesting thought too.

But where we can see change really easy, is calling the penalties. And it should apply to all 200' as well. Lastly, same rules and calls in the playoffs. I have become more than irritated with the NHL, where the system just changes -- and for the worst -- come game #83. Only the NHL has a different officiating approach come playoff time.

One thing for sure. Any changes has to be allowed to settle for a minimum of three seasons, preferably five before re-assessing.

Erik Gustafsson changed his number from 52 to 56.

#hotbreakingsummerhockeynews
- DarthKane

If only he would change teams...professions..

West burbs
- SimpleJack

Oh nevermind, if you had a North or South thing then you would have more of a case. When I was toddler, I watched a lot of Cub games and became a Cub fan, the problem was, I was a south sider so I had to change allegiances. Didn't matter I liked Luzinski, Baines, and company better anyway. So I became a White Sox fan. Then 1994 rolled around and that stupid strike and a certain loud mouth named Quillen. Now I am a NFG for baseball.

Seriously, now that I look at it, I can't believe I liked that sport in the first place. But the other kids on the block played it, so I wanted to fit in, so I played it too. I was good to I might add. I tried out for the CWS in 1992 at Pucket field. It was an open tryout, so really anyone could at that time. I did get a few good compliments on my fielding but no callback.

If the CWS do a fire sale here, and dump what they have and get good prospects back, then they should contend quickly within 1-2 years. But they would have to dump Sale, Quintana, basically anyone and everyone.

Fun Fact: Cubs were originally the White Stockings. That's right they were the White Sox. They went through 2 name changes, first they were the Colts and then the Cubs.

Oh nevermind, if you had a North or South thing then you would have more of a case. When I was toddler, I watched a lot of Cub games and became a Cub fan, the problem was, I was a south sider so I had to change allegiances. Didn't matter I liked Luzinski, Baines, and company better anyway. So I became a White Sox fan. Then 1994 rolled around and that stupid strike and a certain loud mouth named Quillen. Now I am a NFG for baseball.

Seriously, now that I look at it, I can't believe I liked that sport in the first place. But the other kids on the block played it, so I wanted to fit in, so I played it too. I was good to I might add. I tried out for the CWS in 1992 at Pucket field. It was an open tryout, so really anyone could at that time. I did get a few good compliments on my fielding but no callback.

If the CWS do a fire sale here, and dump what they have and get good prospects back, then they should contend quickly within 1-2 years. But they would have to dump Sale, Quintana, basically anyone and everyone.

Fun Fact: Cubs were originally the White Stockings. That's right they were the White Sox. They went through 2 name changes, first they were the Colts and then the Cubs.


- gifman

You forgot the Orphans. Originally as a member of the National Association, 1870-1876 and pre-NL, the team lost their lakefront ballpark during the Great Chicago Fire (no, it wasn't the cow) of 1871. The stockings were known for a short time as the Orphans and before the dawn of the NL in 1876. Briefly, in the late 19th century, the Orphan name returned. This time, it was after the great Cap Anson left late 1897.

If the ChiSox have any sort of a firesale, getting rid of Sale or Quintana would be an epic mistake. I still can't believe Sale went off the rails twice this season. Is he related to Zambrano? Now, Z is a nut case.