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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 19 @ 9:40 PM ET
Guess Dale Weise is wearing 22 for the Flyers
- Jsaquella


......so we are NOT resigning Luke Schenn?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 19 @ 9:42 PM ET
......so we are NOT resigning Luke Schenn?
- Mononoke


He can wear 11
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 19 @ 9:44 PM ET
Guess Dale Weise is wearing 22 for the Flyers


- Jsaquella


What gave it away?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 19 @ 9:46 PM ET
What gave it away?
- ob18


What number is Konecny gonna wear on the Flyers this year you think?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jul 19 @ 9:52 PM ET
What number is Konecny gonna wear on the Flyers this year you think?
- Mononoke


None, my belief is he'll be in Sarnia.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 19 @ 10:24 PM ET
What gave it away?
- ob18


Looks like Boyd Gordon is going to wear 27
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 19 @ 10:33 PM ET
Did Del Zotto make it to arbitration after his first year with the Flyers? Personally I don't care if Schenn goes to arbitration. Worst case we get him at one more year at a decent price. I don't see him getting rewarded something crazy.
- roenick97


They signed him iirc the day before or something like that. Either way he didn't make it to arb
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 19 @ 10:35 PM ET
Looks like Boyd Gordon is going to wear 27
- Jsaquella


You sure that's not his Corsi?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 19 @ 10:39 PM ET
You sure that's not his Corsi?
- YuenglingJagr


It's higher than his OZ Start %.

Actually the team's site added numbers for him and Weise today
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 19 @ 10:46 PM ET
nice

- MBFlyerfan

neise
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 19 @ 11:20 PM ET
It's higher than his OZ Start %.

Actually the team's site added numbers for him and Weise today

- Jsaquella

what number did they give ivan?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 19 @ 11:39 PM ET
what number did they give ivan?
- Marc D


Give Ivan? Ivan will take #9 from Steve Downie's cold dead hands
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 20 @ 12:01 AM ET
What gave it away?
- ob18


His freakishly small ankles?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 20 @ 12:26 AM ET
His freakishly small ankles?
- Tomahawk


All the flesh from his ankles went directly to his face at birth. Like Eric Stoltz in the movie Mask
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 20 @ 7:56 AM ET
I bet they're like $500k apart
- PhillySportsGuy


$500 million apart
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 20 @ 8:11 AM ET
$500 million apart
- Streit2ThePoint


thats a lot
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 20 @ 8:40 AM ET
what number did they give ivan?
- Marc D


Ivan Provorov is not given a number so much as he assumes control of a number that is incomprehensible to the human mind.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 20 @ 8:45 AM ET
Ivan Provorov is not given a number so much as he assumes control of a number that is incomprehensible to the human mind.
- johndewar



Will it be represented by the ∞ ?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 20 @ 8:47 AM ET
Will it be represented by the ∞ ?
- MBFlyerfan


Yes, because only Ivan Provorov truly understands what it means.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 20 @ 8:49 AM ET
Yes, because only Ivan Provorov truly understands what it means.
- johndewar


And he loves Buzz Lightyear
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 20 @ 9:00 AM ET
It's interesting to compare the gap between last year's 4C and this year's new 4C in terms of faceoffs, and how they might affect possession. You can also quickly see how differently Bellmare and the Hak line were used in terms of zone starts compared to how Gordon was used in Arizona.

http://puckbase.com/stats...ession?player=boyd-gordon
http://puckbase.com/stats...pierre--edouard-bellemare

Net Shots Post-Faceoff (NSPF) estimates a face-off taker's contribution to puck possession by counting shot flow (shots-for minus shots-against) during the 10 seconds following a player's face-offs in 5-versus-5 situations, and comparing it to a league-average face-off taker. NSPF is calculated for each of the offensive, defensive, and netural zones; the overall NSPF is their sum.

In short, NSPF is how many more shots-for a player's team had, plus shots-against prevented, following face-offs he took compared with what a league-average face-off taker would have done with the same number of 5-versus-5 face-offs in each zone (offensive, defensive, and neutral).

NSPF/FO is the NSPF per face-off, allowing for easier comparison among players with different numbers of face-offs taken.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 20 @ 9:27 AM ET
It's interesting to compare the gap between last year's 4C and this year's new 4C in terms of faceoffs, and how they might affect possession. You can also quickly see how differently Bellmare and the Hak line were used in terms of zone starts compared to how Gordon was used in Arizona.

http://puckbase.com/stats...ession?player=boyd-gordon
http://puckbase.com/stats...pierre--edouard-bellemare

- Feanor



So that is telling us Gordon positive number is a lot better than Bellamare's negative number?(serious question because all this stats stuff is still somewhat greek to me)
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 20 @ 9:33 AM ET
So that is telling us Gordon positive number is a lot better than Bellamare's negative number?(serious question because all this stats stuff is still somewhat greek to me)
- MBFlyerfan


It honestly seems kinda stupid. Obviously the better face-off guy is going to have better numbers in the 10 seconds following a face-off.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 20 @ 9:36 AM ET
It honestly seems kinda stupid. Obviously the better face-off guy is going to have better numbers in the 10 seconds following a face-off.
- PhillySportsGuy



Well, then it is good that they have upgraded that position of need for this team (if I am reading the stats right)

Anything that allows Giroux to take less d-zone draws (on PK and even strength) and get more o-zone draws is good by me.
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