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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 19 @ 4:01 PM ET
If Yzerman doesn't trade Kucherov for Schenn+2nd, Hexy is going to offer sheet him. If they match that offer sheet, Hexy is just going to offer sheet Palat or Drouin next year. Your world will be a nightmare, Stevie. And Ronald J. Hextall will be its harbinger.
- Mononoke


If I was Hextall i would just keep mailing Yzerman blank offer sheets. Not email, but actual physical mail...haunt his dreams
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 19 @ 4:01 PM ET
This is so frustrating just watching Kucherov sit out there. Yzerman will get some sweetheart deal and everyone will wonder how he did it. It's because GMs are (frank)ing cowards.
- PhillySportsGuy

It's the good old boy network mentality.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 19 @ 4:02 PM ET
If I was Hextall i would just keep mailing Yzerman blank offer sheets. Not email, but actual physical mail...haunt his dreams
- YuenglingJagr


I'd have Dave Brown hand deliver them, cracking his knuckles as he tosses em on Yzerman's desk.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 19 @ 4:03 PM ET
If I was Hextall i would just keep mailing Yzerman blank offer sheets. Not email, but actual physical mail...haunt his dreams
- YuenglingJagr


With post cards that begin from Philadelphia and each day get progressively closer and closer to Tampa Bay.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 19 @ 4:05 PM ET
Probably just quibbling over the year to year breakdown and bonus structure.
- BiggE


I get the feeling the Flyers will be perfectly happy with any 1 year deal in arbitration. I bet they won't even argue the case much and just concede. Schenn's camp probably wants a long-term deal done
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 19 @ 4:06 PM ET
So, Phil Kessel took the Cup to the Toronto Hospital for Sick Children.

I eagerly await Steve Simmons's article criticizing him for not taking the Cup to the Toronto Hospital for Healthy Children.

- Mononoke


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 19 @ 4:07 PM ET
If I was Hextall i would just keep mailing Yzerman blank offer sheets. Not email, but actual physical mail...haunt his dreams
- YuenglingJagr


Or, ya know, mail him a signed contract with Kucherov
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 19 @ 4:08 PM ET
It's the good old boy network mentality.

- BiggE


"We will do everything in our power to make this team great"

*Except sign other team's rfas*

-Every GM
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 19 @ 4:09 PM ET
This is so frustrating just watching Kucherov sit out there. Yzerman will get some sweetheart deal and everyone will wonder how he did it. It's because GMs are (frank)ing cowards.
- PhillySportsGuy



Cowards, or just smart? Start offer sheeting players, and the next time you have a cap crunch, and have a good player that you need to sign, see what happens. It shouldn't be that way, but that's the way it is.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 19 @ 4:09 PM ET
Or, ya know, mail him a signed contract with Kucherov
- PhillySportsGuy


too blunt
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 19 @ 4:10 PM ET
Cowards, or just smart? Start offer sheeting players, and the next time you have a cap crunch, and have a good player that you need to sign, see what happens. It shouldn't be that way, but that's the way it is.
- MJL


shoot first, ask questions later
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 19 @ 4:12 PM ET
shoot first, ask questions later
- YuenglingJagr



Or just skip the questions altogether.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 19 @ 4:12 PM ET
Or, ya know, mail him a signed contract with Kucherov
- PhillySportsGuy


Let's be real. He'd match. Even $7.5x7, he'd match. It's next year's crop with Palat, Johnson, Drouin that then becomes ripe for the picking. Then, with that threat in place, it is Trayden's time to shine!
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 19 @ 4:12 PM ET
Or just skip the questions altogether.
- MJL


How will you know it's consensual then, MJL? How though?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 19 @ 4:15 PM ET
Cowards, or just smart? Start offer sheeting players, and the next time you have a cap crunch, and have a good player that you need to sign, see what happens. It shouldn't be that way, but that's the way it is.
- MJL


I'd be perfectly fine with that
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 19 @ 4:16 PM ET
I'd be perfectly fine with that
- PhillySportsGuy


Yeah lets worry about building a team worth getting in a cap crunch for before we start worrying about losing our players
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 19 @ 4:18 PM ET
Let's be real. He'd match. Even $7.5x7, he'd match. It's next year's crop with Palat, Johnson, Drouin that then becomes ripe for the picking. Then, with that threat in place, it is Trayden's time to shine!
- Mononoke


I'm sure he would match, but it would force his hand to do things he wouldn't want to do.

He would either need to take away from their depth or trade Bishop for less than he's worth.

This is one of the 3 best teams in the east and will be for a number of years. Not sure why you wouldn't want to force a scenario like that.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 19 @ 4:18 PM ET
This is so frustrating just watching Kucherov sit out there. Yzerman will get some sweetheart deal and everyone will wonder how he did it. It's because GMs are (frank)ing cowards.
- PhillySportsGuy


I sometimes feel like compensation is sometimes as big of a reason as "rocking the boat" is when it comes to offer sheeting players. Really depends on which player we are talking about I guess
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 19 @ 4:19 PM ET
I'm sure he would match, but it would force his hand to do things he wouldn't want to do.

He would either need to take away from their depth or trade Bishop for less than he's worth.

This is one of the 3 best teams in the east and will be for a number of years. Not sure why you wouldn't want to force a scenario like that.

- PhillySportsGuy


I really dont see a situation in which Bishop isnt traded
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 19 @ 4:20 PM ET
Yeah lets worry about building a team worth getting in a cap crunch for before we start worrying about losing our players
- YuenglingJagr


Smart teams lock up players early in order to save money later. If a player is truly valuable enough, he's likely going to get a Couturier type contract.

If some team wants to overpay one of my young players, I'll just take the compensation.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 19 @ 4:24 PM ET
Smart teams lock up players early in order to save money later. If a player is truly valuable enough, he's likely going to get a Couturier type contract.

If some team wants to overpay one of my young players, I'll just take the compensation.

- PhillySportsGuy


Don't let your stars go to arbitration. I understand the retaliatory tactics that some GMs fear. But sign your core RFAs early and you don't have to worry about this. Have money allocated for them instead of for moronic signings like Callahan.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 19 @ 4:25 PM ET
I really dont see a situation in which Bishop isnt traded
- YuenglingJagr


Yeah, but an offer sheet forces them to make a decision on him within the next 10 days. Every team will know this and the offers won't be as strong.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 19 @ 4:27 PM ET
Don't let your stars go to arbitration. I understand the retaliatory tactics that some GMs fear. But sign your core RFAs early and you don't have to worry about this. Have money allocated for them instead of for moronic signings like Callahan.
- Mononoke


Other than Schenn, I can't ever remember a Flyers top 6/top 4 player ever having trouble re-signing.

Tampa is in this situation because they have so much young talent. I just don't understand why GMs protect other GMs like this.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 19 @ 4:28 PM ET
BREAKING NEWS

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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 19 @ 5:00 PM ET
Other than Schenn, I can't ever remember a Flyers top 6/top 4 player ever having trouble re-signing.

Tampa is in this situation because they have so much young talent. I just don't understand why GMs protect other GMs like this.

- PhillySportsGuy


Gagne was an almost annual late signee, but never got to arbitration.

LeClair did get to arbitration one year
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