Interesting tactic.

http://www.startribune.co...t-dumba-update/387486251/
- Feanor

It's still probably nicer than ripping him apart in an arbitration hearing

Fair enough, but I hope it was more than just participating in a roller HOCKEY tournament during the off season.
- MBFlyerfan

I don't know.

If they say we don't want you playing because we are the ones paying you and you blatantly go do it then I could see them being pissed.

Once your property of a team they have some say, especially with the time and money they invest in these players.

I also vaguely remember there being work ethic type things mentioned

It's never been fully explained by either side. The most I eve read on it was some quotes from Greg Gilbert about it from this column in 2015

http://www.theglobeandmai...-stardom/article24632985/

It seems like Gilbert was miffed that Maroon spent the summer playing in an IIHF inline tourney. Gilbert has a bit of a reputation for being a hard ass and having difficulty with player who don't buy in all the way. He's had success in minor pro and CHL hockey, though.
- Jsaquella

From what I recall, that was kind of the start of things going downhill, he was out of shape, and rumors were he got into a physical thing with a coach, then sent home and traded

Lorenzo Lamas is such a hottie

Exactly. So to me there has to be more to it. If not, what a ridiculous thing to be mad about.
- MBFlyerfan

I think it was the inline thing that started it, but there were rumors of bad attitudes, insubordination and general dislike of each other.

I think Gilbert wanted Maroon to really work hard on his conditioning and professionalism, in terms of putting his NHL career first

It's still probably nicer than ripping him apart in an arbitration hearing
- YuenglingJagr

They'll probably rip him apart, too. He's basically been a non entity as a NHLer. Small guy, one way player, not much production in NHL.

They'll probably rip him apart, too. He's basically been a non entity as a NHLer. Small guy, one way player, not much production in NHL.
- Jsaquella

if it comes to that. I thought of it like a tactic to avoid arbitration

if it comes to that. I thought of it like a tactic to avoid arbitration
- YuenglingJagr

He's not likely to get claimed, though.

Basically, Minnesota is waiving him, he goes unclaimed and it's a good argument that he doesn't deserve a one way contract, since 29 other NHL teams wouldn't take him for free.

The flip side is, if he was claimed, he still faces arbitration and the team claiming him basically makes his case for a one way deal. I'd be stunned if he got claimed, even without the pending arbitration

Lorenzo Lamas is such a hottie
- jmatchett383

Good find!

Dumb fight for Steve Thomas. Why would he drop them with a scrub like Phil Crowe?

He's not likely to get claimed, though.

Basically, Minnesota is waiving him, he goes unclaimed and it's a good argument that he doesn't deserve a one way contract, since 29 other NHL teams wouldn't take him for free.

The flip side is, if he was claimed, he still faces arbitration and the team claiming him basically makes his case for a one way deal. I'd be stunned if he got claimed, even without the pending arbitration
- Jsaquella

well yeah...thats why I understood it as a way to get him to come down on price. You dont have much leverage to say you are worth much if no one will claim you. from the team standpoint...it is a less personal way of letting a guy know hes worthless than standing in front of an arbitrator and pointing out why hes worthless

well yeah...thats why I understood it as a way to get him to come down on price. You dont have much leverage to say you are worth much if no one will claim you. from the team standpoint...it is a less personal way of letting a guy know hes worthless than standing in front of an arbitrator and pointing out why hes worthless
- YuenglingJagr

I figured out he was worthless when I looked at his stats...in basically every league he's played in.

I figured out he was worthless when I looked at his stats...in basically every league he's played in.

- MBFlyerfan

even the roller hockey league?

Any unsigned guys still out there that might interest you guys on the cheap?

Would Vrbata fit on a 1 year deal?

I know Pirri's name has been mentioned.

I am probably in the minority but I wouldn't be against Mike Richards. Could fill a 3rd line center roll with wings like Raffl and Weise who have more speed. Also can kill penalties and was a solid PP player so he could help on the 2nd unit.
- J35Bacher

Which ever way you wanna look at it or even dissect the debate, I don't feel Mike Richards is any worse than anything we have in the bottom 6 outside of Michael Raffl. I understand Richards has lost a few steps but I still view him as a competitive player. He might not be an offensive threat but he'll easily help with experience down the middle and PK, which are eras we need to improve. He's still one of our own.

even the roller hockey league?
- YuenglingJagr

I'd have to ask Pat Maroon...

well yeah...thats why I understood it as a way to get him to come down on price. You dont have much leverage to say you are worth much if no one will claim you. from the team standpoint...it is a less personal way of letting a guy know hes worthless than standing in front of an arbitrator and pointing out why hes worthless
- YuenglingJagr

Oh yeah, but from what I read, the biggest issue is the two way vs one way deal issue. Given his play the salary should be a pretty simple hearing.

So, Phil Kessel took the Cup to the Toronto Hospital for Sick Children.

I eagerly await Steve Simmons's article criticizing him for not taking the Cup to the Toronto Hospital for Healthy Children.

Panaccio just tweeted there's been "no progress" in Schenn contract talks.

Panaccio just tweeted there's been "no progress" in Schenn contract talks.
- Jsaquella

When is Hexy gonna land the plane?

When is Hexy gonna land the plane?
- PhillySportsGuy

July 25th, at the hearing

Panaccio just tweeted there's been "no progress" in Schenn contract talks.
- Jsaquella

His in depth reporting is just so amazing.

When is Hexy gonna land the plane?
- PhillySportsGuy

If Yzerman doesn't trade Kucherov for Schenn+2nd, Hexy is going to offer sheet him. If they match that offer sheet, Hexy is just going to offer sheet Palat or Drouin next year. Your world will be a nightmare, Stevie.

July 25th, at the hearing
- Jsaquella

I bet they're like $500k apart

If Yzerman doesn't trade Kucherov for Schenn+2nd, Hexy is going to offer sheet him. If they match that offer sheet, Hexy is just going to offer sheet Palat or Drouin next year. Your world will be a nightmare, Stevie.
- Mononoke

If Yzerman doesn't trade Kucherov for Schenn+2nd, Hexy is going to offer sheet him. If they match that offer sheet, Hexy is just going to offer sheet Palat or Drouin next year. Your world will be a nightmare, Stevie.
- Mononoke

This is so frustrating just watching Kucherov sit out there. Yzerman will get some sweetheart deal and everyone will wonder how he did it. It's because GMs are (frank)ing cowards.

I bet they're like $500k apart
- PhillySportsGuy

Probably just quibbling over the year to year breakdown and bonus structure.