IF and I know it's a big IF, we get Vessey some how, do you play 2 rookies with Hayes or drop either him or Buch into the top 6 to break them up?

The Rangers have something against players who produce up to their contracts. I will never criticize team for getting younger and cheaper and gaining a pick. But Big Game Ricky, the orange cone twins Girardi and Staal and Stephan at 6.5 should have gone before Brass. I doubt Brass pretty durable, nice playoff numbers and consistent at 5.0 a year was the teams first choice to move.

The Rangers have something against players who produce up to their contracts. I will never criticize team for getting younger and cheaper and gaining a pick. But Big Game Ricky, the orange cone twins Girardi and Staal and Stephan at 6.5 should have gone before Brass. I doubt Brass pretty durable, nice playoff numbers and consistent at 5.0 a year was the teams first choice to move.
- wileypuck

I agree but I'll never disagree with a good trade that gets us younger at the same time.

The Rangers have something against players who produce up to their contracts. I will never criticize team for getting younger and cheaper and gaining a pick. But Big Game Ricky, the orange cone twins Girardi and Staal and Stephan at 6.5 should have gone before Brass. I doubt Brass pretty durable, nice playoff numbers and consistent at 5.0 a year was the teams first choice to move.
- wileypuck

I just don't understand why they didn't trade Girardi for Erik Karlsson, that would solve everything

I just don't understand why they didn't trade Girardi for Erik Karlsson, that would solve everything
- jimbro83

Are you telling me Nash for Seguin wasn't a realistic option???

Get those Applebee's mozzarella sticks out of your ass Gorton

come on show me new Kreider deal

come on show me new Kreider deal
- TPC

Today or tomorrow. I promise.

I like the trade. Though, Brass was a good Ranger, this deal pretty much addressed the wants/needs this off-season...younger, faster, save cap space, bigger center. Can't complain much here.

Plus spending $2M and a 7th round pick for a 2nd round pick helps, too.

come on show me new Kreider deal
- TPC

I am hung up on this kid. I am not sure what I would offer him. You want that break-out season, but it just doesn't keep happening. Maybe finally learning to score on breakaways will finally get him to that 30-goal mark

Today or tomorrow. I promise.
- Fenrir

I am hung up on this kid. I am not sure what I would offer him. You want that break-out season, but it just doesn't keep happening. Maybe finally learning to score on breakaways will finally get him to that 30-goal mark
- mames11

Even if he doesn't ever reach 30...4.5 million for someone who can get you 25 goals, around 50 plus points and deliver in the palyoffs isn't a bad deal in today's NHL.

Even if he doesn't ever reach 30...4.5 million for someone who can get you 25 goals, around 50 plus points and deliver in the palyoffs isn't a bad deal in today's NHL.
- TPC

his career proves him worthy of a 4.5 million a year contract right now

the trick is to get him signed to that number before he breaks out and then commands 6 million plus a year

his career proves him worthy of a 4.5 million a year contract right now

the trick is to get him signed to that number before he breaks out and then commands 6 million plus a year
- jimbro83

Not that I don't think this might happen, but its funny how many times we say this with Kreider.

Even if he doesn't ever reach 30...4.5 million for someone who can get you 25 goals, around 50 plus points and deliver in the palyoffs isn't a bad deal in today's NHL.
- TPC

Yup but that's why Brooks speculates a longer term deal will cost the Rangers 5.25M or more.

I'm warming up to that number more and more though

Not that I don't think this might happen, but its funny how many times we say this with Kreider.
- mdw7413

Well the thing with Kreider is we aren't talking a breakout year in terms of going from 10 goals to 20+ like Miller, but more of 20+ to 30+. So even if he doesn't break out, he's still producing pretty damn well.

Well the thing with Kreider is we aren't talking a breakout year in terms of going from 10 goals to 20+ like Miller, but more of 20+ to 30+. So even if he doesn't break out, he's still producing pretty damn well.
- rangerdanger94

Not 5.25 well..

Yup but that's why Brooks speculates a longer term deal will cost the Rangers 5.25M or more.

I'm warming up to that number more and more though
- rangerdanger94

I am getting nervous...if this thing drags to Friday no way its a long term deal. Need something done either today or tomorrow

Not 5.25 well..
- mdw7413

I am sticking with my guess of 4 years @ 18 million total

4.5 million cap hit and allows him to hit the market again at age 29

I am sticking with my guess of 4 years @ 18 million total

4.5 million cap hit and allows him to hit the market again at age 29
- TPC

4.5 would be my ceiling.

Gives the Rangers some meat on the bone if he stays a 20 g scorer. Also if he hits 30 its kind of a bargain.

4.5 would be my ceiling.

Gives the Rangers some meat on the bone if he stays a 20 g scorer. Also if he hits 30 its kind of a bargain.
- mdw7413

I am just nervous now, really didn't think it would take this long

I am just nervous now, really didn't think it would take this long
- TPC

Could be his agent has some ridiculous number and won't budge.

They'll figure it out.

Could be his agent has some ridiculous number and won't budge.

They'll figure it out.
- mdw7413

They better, otherwise i can guarantee you know I won't sleep at all Thursday night

They better, otherwise i can guarantee you know I won't sleep at all Thursday night
- TPC

Well they won't let him walk as much as I joke about it. So if it goes to arbitration the Rangers will just pay that amount.

Well they won't let him walk as much as I joke about it. So if it goes to arbitration the Rangers will just pay that amount.
- mdw7413

I just want a long term deal...one year deal will put me on edge again next summer

Ottawas GM says that Gortons asking price was significantly higher in April.

I wonder what asking price can be considered significantly higher than Zibanajed and a 2nd?