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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 18 @ 7:55 PM ET
now i am crying.
- Dozzer



Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 18 @ 7:58 PM ET

- Steven_Seagull

Kanye West & Taylor Swift 2020: Make America Puke Again!
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Jul 18 @ 8:02 PM ET
Kanye 2020?
- Steven_Seagull



People thought Trumps campaign tweets were bad. Wait until Mrs. West is up for first lady.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jul 18 @ 8:05 PM ET
People thought Trumps campaign tweets were bad. Wait until Mrs. West is up for first lady.
- Mr.Bobby



Kanye West & Taylor Swift 2020: Make America Puke Again!
- Flyfreaky



Holy poop.
Bower
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Jul 18 @ 8:07 PM ET
Kanye West & Taylor Swift 2020: Make America Puke Again!
- Flyfreaky


They make me puke now.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jul 18 @ 8:24 PM ET
I think the whole bernier thing was a rare bad deal from this new leaf management.

People endlessly lean on bernier and his full 4.15 salary being purged as a win, but that would imply that the team is at a point where paying to clear short term salary is a good thing. It's not. Bernier had zero term, his cap hit was irrelevant this season.

It makes zero sense to not have held him until the deadline. Worst case scenario would have been still trading him for essentially nothing, and with most of his money paid, would have been unlikely as well. He would have had ample time to even up his value the slightest.

Oh well, not the end of the world.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Jul 18 @ 8:32 PM ET
Holy poop.
- Steven_Seagull

Meh, shake it off
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Jul 18 @ 8:38 PM ET
I think the whole bernier thing was a rare bad deal from this new leaf management.

People endlessly lean on bernier and his full 4.15 salary being purged as a win, but that would imply that the team is at a point where paying to clear short term salary is a good thing. It's not. Bernier had zero term, his cap hit was irrelevant this season.

It makes zero sense to not have held him until the deadline. Worst case scenario would have been still trading him for essentially nothing, and with most of his money paid, would have been unlikely as well. He would have had ample time to even up his value the slightest.

Oh well, not the end of the world.

- joel878

I think they wanted to eject him from the locker room.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jul 18 @ 8:47 PM ET
I think the whole bernier thing was a rare bad deal from this new leaf management.

People endlessly lean on bernier and his full 4.15 salary being purged as a win, but that would imply that the team is at a point where paying to clear short term salary is a good thing. It's not. Bernier had zero term, his cap hit was irrelevant this season.

It makes zero sense to not have held him until the deadline. Worst case scenario would have been still trading him for essentially nothing, and with most of his money paid, would have been unlikely as well. He would have had ample time to even up his value the slightest.

Oh well, not the end of the world.

- joel878


Besides him being part of the "old" regime....I think some of it might have to do with having a CLEAR #1G in Andersen and not the continual Reimer/Bernier fight for #1 type situation.

Players need confidence in their G.

With a true back up and Andersen in #1 it makes things more solid...mentally for the players, the whole thing....kinda like paying Babcock a ton of money so the players know who's in charge.

Culture change.
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Jul 18 @ 9:25 PM ET
I think the whole bernier thing was a rare bad deal from this new leaf management.

People endlessly lean on bernier and his full 4.15 salary being purged as a win, but that would imply that the team is at a point where paying to clear short term salary is a good thing. It's not. Bernier had zero term, his cap hit was irrelevant this season.

It makes zero sense to not have held him until the deadline. Worst case scenario would have been still trading him for essentially nothing, and with most of his money paid, would have been unlikely as well. He would have had ample time to even up his value the slightest.

Oh well, not the end of the world.

- joel878


so 10M for goaltending? why?
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jul 18 @ 9:27 PM ET
Meh, shake it off
- Flyfreaky

Trapezoid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AB
Joined: 06.29.2016

Jul 18 @ 10:21 PM ET
I think the whole bernier thing was a rare bad deal from this new leaf management.

People endlessly lean on bernier and his full 4.15 salary being purged as a win, but that would imply that the team is at a point where paying to clear short term salary is a good thing. It's not. Bernier had zero term, his cap hit was irrelevant this season.

It makes zero sense to not have held him until the deadline. Worst case scenario would have been still trading him for essentially nothing, and with most of his money paid, would have been unlikely as well. He would have had ample time to even up his value the slightest.

Oh well, not the end of the world.

- joel878

Well we have Sparks, so no need for an over priced back up.. Its a new day in Leaf Land.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jul 18 @ 10:22 PM ET
so 10M for goaltending? why?
- poohcrumbs



Because why not? Does it make or break the season? Is it of consequence enough to validate essentially paying someone to fix it for us? Dumping someone for nothing who could be worth more in 8 months?

The ducks are threatening for a cup, and will be pushing 8 million in goaltending. If it doesn't matter to them, why the hell should it matter to us.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jul 18 @ 10:23 PM ET
Well we have Sparks, so no need for an over priced back up.. Its a new day in Leaf Land.
- Trapezoid


Well, they've already said sparks won't be back up. So here's hoping...
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Jul 18 @ 10:26 PM ET
Besides him being part of the "old" regime....I think some of it might have to do with having a CLEAR #1G in Andersen and not the continual Reimer/Bernier fight for #1 type situation.

Players need confidence in their G.

With a true back up and Andersen in #1 it makes things more solid...mentally for the players, the whole thing....kinda like paying Babcock a ton of money so the players know who's in charge.

Culture change.

- underhill14


This is actually a fairly logical argument. I don't think it necessitates dumping bernier so early for nothing, when getting some value out of it would have been such a minimal investment. But I can respect your argument nonetheless.

Definitely comes the closest to making sense.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 18 @ 10:27 PM ET
: Sens trade.

Glg
Trapezoid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AB
Joined: 06.29.2016

Jul 18 @ 10:28 PM ET
Besides him being part of the "old" regime....I think some of it might have to do with having a CLEAR #1G in Andersen and not the continual Reimer/Bernier fight for #1 type situation.

Players need confidence in their G.

With a true back up and Andersen in #1 it makes things more solid...mentally for the players, the whole thing....kinda like paying Babcock a ton of money so the players know who's in charge.

Culture change.

- underhill14

Agreed.
Trapezoid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AB
Joined: 06.29.2016

Jul 18 @ 10:32 PM ET
Well, they've already said sparks won't be back up. So here's hoping...
- joel878

Lets hope Uncle Lou can come up with a Vet presence to play back up. I wonder if Marty would come sit on the bench. Probably not.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jul 18 @ 10:42 PM ET
This is actually a fairly logical argument. I don't think it necessitates dumping bernier so early for nothing, when getting some value out of it would have been such a minimal investment. But I can respect your argument nonetheless.

Definitely comes the closest to making sense.

- joel878


I agree with dumping him too early too. But...since it does kinda make sense then maybe WE don't know the behind the scenes stuff.

The management team knows more about Bernier than us...the whole team.

I have to think if they dumped Bernier for nothing that they have a much better understanding of his worth more than we do.

Maybe they know that they have to play him 20/30 games and he sucks so his value be nothing and the team could miss those points come playoff qualifying time???

Worse case, we missed out on a 2nd round pick...maybe.

My best guess...they need that cap space for something more important than a 2nd round pick.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 18 @ 11:00 PM ET
I agree with dumping him too early too. But...since it does kinda make sense then maybe WE don't know the behind the scenes stuff.

The management team knows more about Bernier than us...the whole team.

I have to think if they dumped Bernier for nothing that they have a much better understanding of his worth more than we do.

Maybe they know that they have to play him 20/30 games and he sucks so his value be nothing and the team could miss those points come playoff qualifying time???

Worse case, we missed out on a 2nd round pick...maybe.

My best guess...they need that cap space for something more important than a 2nd round pick.

- underhill14


Culture change.

(frank) Bernier.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 18 @ 11:03 PM ET
Culture change.

(frank) Bernier.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Are you suggesting pro-biotic supplements...?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 18 @ 11:08 PM ET
Are you suggesting pro-biotic supplements...?
- lumlums

The anti apartheid movement has finally been accepted by the Leafs
13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 18 @ 11:23 PM ET
I think the whole bernier thing was a rare bad deal from this new leaf management.

People endlessly lean on bernier and his full 4.15 salary being purged as a win, but that would imply that the team is at a point where paying to clear short term salary is a good thing. It's not. Bernier had zero term, his cap hit was irrelevant this season.

It makes zero sense to not have held him until the deadline. Worst case scenario would have been still trading him for essentially nothing, and with most of his money paid, would have been unlikely as well. He would have had ample time to even up his value the slightest.

Oh well, not the end of the world.

- joel878

I think most of all they just wante to move forward with Andersen. Wether or not that's a good move remains to be seen, but moving Bernier out was a big part of it because I dont think it's healthy to have your new starter being challenged by the old one. They kind of did that with Bernier/Reimer and it was a disaster. It's a clean start for both sides so in that sense I think it's a good move. The faster they move on from players that they don't see fitting into the plan, the better.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 18 @ 11:32 PM ET
The anti apartheid movement has finally been accepted by the Leafs
- Symba007


Apparently they traded Subban for having the "Itis ,
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 18 @ 11:38 PM ET
Well, they've already said sparks won't be back up. So here's hoping...
- joel878


Sparks sucks
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