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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 19 @ 8:34 AM ET
(frank) the Rangers.

Has nothing to do with the deal, I just like saying that!

- BiggE


The less famous (but maybe more deserving) one

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 19 @ 8:36 AM ET
They scored their first goal less than a minute after Talbot goaded the clueless goon into a fight that served no purpose for the Flyers, and that the Penguins players admitted fired them up.

It was Carcillo.

- Feanor


I agree that it fired them up. It was stupid and pointless. However, simply being fired up does not equal winning. The Flyers had a 3-0 lead halfway through a home elimination game. Why could they not get equally fired up and/or protect the lead?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 19 @ 8:37 AM ET
The less famous (but maybe more deserving) one


- jmatchett383


Dave Brown
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 19 @ 8:38 AM ET
I agree that it fired them up. It was stupid and pointless. However, simply being fired up does not equal winning. The Flyers had a 3-0 lead halfway through a home elimination game. Why could they not get equally fired up and/or protect the lead?
- jmatchett383


Yup, one big save by Biron, as I mentioned earlier, would have swung the momentum back. I think the bad rebound/soft goal caused the team to sag as much as anything.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 19 @ 8:39 AM ET
Dave Brown

- BiggE


If someone slew-footed Shayne Gostisbehere into the boards like that and a Flyer cross checked the guy in the face, I'd be cool with it.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jul 19 @ 8:41 AM ET
Dave Brown

- BiggE


IMO the toughest SOB ever!
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 19 @ 8:42 AM ET
Dave Brown

- BiggE



Sandstrom was such a dirty POS.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 19 @ 8:45 AM ET
Sandstrom was such a dirty POS.
- MBFlyerfan


Yup, I hate that a-hole as much as anyone who ever played in the NHL
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 19 @ 8:45 AM ET
If someone slew-footed Shayne Gostisbehere into the boards like that and a Flyer cross checked the guy in the face, I'd be cool with it.
- jmatchett383

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 19 @ 8:48 AM ET
If someone slew-footed Shayne Gostisbehere into the boards like that and a Flyer cross checked the guy in the face, I'd be cool with it.
- jmatchett383



As would I. In fact I would expect it.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 19 @ 8:50 AM ET
As would I. In fact I would expect it.
- MBFlyerfan


If Morin ends up being his partner some day, some opponents are going pay dearly daring to touch Ghost.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 19 @ 8:59 AM ET
If Morin ends up being his partner some day, some opponents are going pay dearly daring to touch Ghost.
- BiggE




I just keep going back to when he took the lumber to that Capital rookie during the rookie game.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
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Jul 19 @ 9:01 AM ET
I just keep going back to when he took the lumber to that Capital rookie during the rookie game.
- MBFlyerfan


Yup, that was awesome. He is going to be scary when he really puts it all together. While the game is more about skill and speed than ever, there will always be a place for a huge, mean Dman with good wheels.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jul 19 @ 9:04 AM ET
If Morin ends up being his partner some day, some opponents are going pay dearly daring to touch Ghost.
- BiggE



I could see Morin with a guy like Provorov. Play hard minutes against top lines. Then followed up by a Sanheim - Hagg 2nd pair.

I like what Gostisbehere brings but I still see him as more a 3rd pair, pp specialist or someone you sneak out when down a goal at times and 3v3 situations

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 19 @ 9:06 AM ET
I could see Morin with a guy like Provorov. Play hard minutes against top lines. Then followed up by a Sanheim - Hagg 2nd pair.

I like what Gostisbehere brings but I still see him as more a 3rd pair, pp specialist or someone you sneak out when down a goal at times and 3v3 situations

- J35Bacher


If this comes true, I would be very happy!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 19 @ 9:25 AM ET
I could see Morin with a guy like Provorov. Play hard minutes against top lines. Then followed up by a Sanheim - Hagg 2nd pair.

I like what Gostisbehere brings but I still see him as more a 3rd pair, pp specialist or someone you sneak out when down a goal at times and 3v3 situations

- J35Bacher


MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 19 @ 9:46 AM ET
I could see Morin with a guy like Provorov. Play hard minutes against top lines. Then followed up by a Sanheim - Hagg 2nd pair.

I like what Gostisbehere brings but I still see him as more a 3rd pair, pp specialist or someone you sneak out when down a goal at times and 3v3 situations

- J35Bacher


This would be ideal. Ghost would still get his minutes as he would be the #1 PP guy while saving him the hard minutes playing against other teams top lines.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 19 @ 9:48 AM ET
If this comes true, I would be very happy!
- BiggE



Can you imagine 4 years from now?

Provorov Morin
Sandheim Hagg
Ghost Gudas/Myers/vet free agent



PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 19 @ 9:49 AM ET
If Morin, Sanheim, Hagg and Provorov are all better than Ghost and push him to 3rd pair duty, they will have the greatest defense of all time
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 19 @ 10:05 AM ET
If Morin, Sanheim, Hagg and Provorov are all better than Ghost and push him to 3rd pair duty, they will have the greatest defense of all time
- PhillySportsGuy


This, then, would be the ideal scenario.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
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Jul 19 @ 10:14 AM ET
This, then, would be the ideal scenario.
- jmatchett383


With the exception of Provorov, I'd be shocked if any of those defenseman are better than Ghost at any point in their careers.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 19 @ 10:42 AM ET
With the exception of Provorov, I'd be shocked if any of those defenseman are better than Ghost at any point in their careers.
- PhillySportsGuy



For me it is not so much who is better, but who is best suited for what role.


PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 19 @ 10:47 AM ET
For me it is not so much who is better, but who is best suited for what role.
- MBFlyerfan


Don't you want your best even strength players playing the most even strength minutes?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 19 @ 11:05 AM ET


364 days until the next one. And that picture will be there every day.

- Mononoke


as long as there is a new picture. that's all i'm asking for.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 19 @ 11:07 AM ET
Don't you want your best even strength players playing the most even strength minutes?
- PhillySportsGuy



I do, but I don't want to beat the crap out of my smallest offensive defensemen playing hard minutes against players who will be beating the crap out of him. We already saw that happen over the latter part of the season and the playoffs.


As I said Ghost will make up his lesser ES minutes on the PP. I would rather have him doing that and getting Ozone starts rather the Dzone starts as part of the top pair if at all possible.
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