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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 18 @ 4:43 PM ET
I disagree.
The Pens played better over the second half and the Flyers played worse than they had in the first half.

Exactly how does Carcillo winning a fight cause Biron to give up 4 goals from the second period on?

- opeth_pa


The Pens started playing better as soon as the fight was over. It wasn't a coincidence. The fight served no purpose for the Flyers other than stoking Carcillo's bloated ego. Biron gave up four goals; which ones were bad goals?
- Feanor


I think you're both right. The fight definitely got a jolt from the fight and picked up their play. That being said, when you have a 3-goal lead in an elimination game on home ice half way through the game, you need to find a way to close it out. So while Carcillo's fight was not necessarily the best game, the other players on the ice should have been able to protect the lead.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 18 @ 4:54 PM ET
7 minutes to a conference call.

Oh joy.

Well, at least they can't see me drinking on the phone!

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 18 @ 4:56 PM ET
Faster than a Kardashian blows a NBA all star
- Jsaquella

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 18 @ 5:50 PM ET
Howdy hooligans, just back from a gorgeous trip out to the Gulf Islands in the West Coast.


Nashville is slowly turning into my team in the West.

Will be fun as hell to watch.

Big question mark is Rinne it seems.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 18 @ 5:51 PM ET
7 minutes to a conference call.

Oh joy.

Well, at least they can't see me drinking on the phone!


- BiggE


For the Flyers?

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 18 @ 6:51 PM ET
Howdy hooligans, just back from a gorgeous trip out to the Gulf Islands in the West Coast.


Nashville is slowly turning into my team in the West.

Will be fun as hell to watch.

Big question mark is Rinne it seems.

- flyer_nutter

was up there last week; salt spring, wallace, galliano, s pender and thetis, and on the way back an orca jumped out of the water right off the bow of the boat

love ganges, it's like going back in time to the 60s
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jul 18 @ 7:24 PM ET
was up there last week; salt spring, wallace, galliano, s pender and thetis, and on the way back an orca jumped out of the water right off the bow of the boat

love ganges, it's like going back in time to the 60s

- Marc D


Was at Salt Spring myself.

Kayak out to chocolate beach, not sure you know where that is. The white shells one. Saw some seals. Ganges is a little too hippie-ish for me, I couldnt help reveal that it made me a little home sick. So out of my element.

Food is incredible though.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 18 @ 7:29 PM ET
Was at Salt Spring myself.

Kayak out to chocolate beach, not sure you know where that is. The white shells one. Saw some seals. Ganges is a little too hippie-ish for me, I couldnt help reveal that it made me a little home sick. So out of my element.

Food is incredible though.

- flyer_nutter


had a geat lunch there at barbs buns (or something like that)
barefoot girl in her teens walks up to me in ganges, asks me for spare change

I gave her what I had, she tells me thanks, my name is zelda

I say what a coincidence I'm link

she must hear that all the time
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jul 18 @ 7:52 PM ET
had a geat lunch there at barbs buns (or something like that)
barefoot girl in her teens walks up to me in ganges, asks me for spare change

I gave her what I had, she tells me thanks, my name is zelda

I say what a coincidence I'm link

she must hear that all the time

- Marc D


roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Jul 18 @ 8:27 PM ET
I agree, Carcillo answered a challenge and won the fight. In my opinion, it had zero to do with why the Flyers lost.
- MJL

I'll never forget sitting at a bar in the middle of the afternoon watching the Flyers taking full control of this game in Windsor, Ontario. I was so excited. Locals were excited for me knowing I was a big Flyers fan. Old guy leans into me says "they'll definitely be a game 7" while it was still 3 to Richard. It was an embarrassing loss.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 18 @ 8:48 PM ET
thank god the golf outing was today.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 18 @ 8:51 PM ET

- YuenglingJagr


hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 18 @ 10:17 PM ET
rag$ trade brassard. good. imho.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 18 @ 11:08 PM ET
thank god the golf outing was today.
- hammarby31




364 days until the next one. And that picture will be there every day.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 18 @ 11:09 PM ET
thank god the golf outing was today.
- hammarby31


Got rained out. Rescheduled for May, 2019
The_Journeyman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 02.13.2015

Jul 18 @ 11:17 PM ET
Has anyone noticed that none of the major websites have seemed to update the flyers draft picks for the 2017 draft properly. They should have possession of the Arizona 3rd round pick as part of the Sam Gagner/Pronger/Grossman trade.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 18 @ 11:19 PM ET
Has anyone noticed that none of the major websites have seemed to update the flyers draft picks for the 2017 draft properly. They should have possession of the Arizona 3rd round pick as part of the Sam Gagner/Pronger/Grossman trade.
- The_Journeyman


They don't. They received San Jose's 4th rounder this year and traded it to the Isles at the draft for a 4th next year.

The deal was Arizona's option for a 2016 4th rounder(which they didn't have at the time) or a 2017 3rd rounder. Arizona traded Max Letunov & a 6th rounder to San Jose for 2016 4th rounder and a 2016 3rd, then gave the 4th to Philly to complete the Pronger/Grossmann/Gagner deal
The_Journeyman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 02.13.2015

Jul 18 @ 11:22 PM ET
They don't. They received San Jose's 4th rounder this year and traded it to the Isles at the draft for a 4th next year.

The deal was Arizona's option for a 2016 4th rounder(which they didn't have at the time) or a 2017 3rd rounder. Arizona traded Max Letunov & a 6th rounder to San Jose for 2016 4th rounder and a 2016 3rd, then gave the 4th to Philly to complete the Pronger/Grossmann/Gagner deal

- Jsaquella


Thanks for clarifying!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 18 @ 11:24 PM ET
Thanks for clarifying!
- The_Journeyman


No problem. I remember being pissed when Arizona got the 4th.
The_Journeyman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Joined: 02.13.2015

Jul 18 @ 11:30 PM ET
No problem. I remember being pissed when Arizona got the 4th.
- Jsaquella


Indeed.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 18 @ 11:45 PM ET
rag$ trade brassard. good. imho.
- hammarby31

guy was a flyer killer

did elias retire? he's another one
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 19 @ 12:58 AM ET
The Pens started playing better as soon as the fight was over. It wasn't a coincidence. The fight served no purpose for the Flyers other than stoking Carcillo's bloated ego. Biron gave up four goals; which ones were bad goals?
- Feanor

1 and 3, don't remember 2. His rebound control was horrific. The pens were energized by scoring their first goal, not Talbot getting his ass handed to him

It.Was.Biron.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 19 @ 8:22 AM ET
rag$ trade brassard. good. imho.
- hammarby31


(frank) the Rangers.

Has nothing to do with the deal, I just like saying that!
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 19 @ 8:32 AM ET
1 and 3, don't remember 2. His rebound control was horrific. The pens were energized by scoring their first goal, not Talbot getting his ass handed to him

It.Was.Biron.

- KINGKENZO


They scored their first goal less than a minute after Talbot goaded the clueless goon into a fight that served no purpose for the Flyers, and that the Penguins players admitted fired them up.

It was Carcillo.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 19 @ 8:34 AM ET
They scored their first goal less than a minute after Talbot goaded the clueless goon into a fight that served no purpose for the Flyers.

It was Carcillo.

- Feanor


Honestly it was both. The fight got them fired up, no doubt there. However, if Biron makes a big save or 2, the Flyers most likely hold on and win the game. As dumb as Carcillo's decision to fight might have been, it doesn't change the fact that Biron came up small in a big game.
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