I think I would
- YuenglingJagr

I think we could have picked up a 2nd rounder too....

I'm sure Ottawa wanted a center, but would you guys have done Schenn for Zib straight up?
- Feanor

Faster than a Kardashian blows a NBA all star

NHL16 wouldnt put the trade through without it
- YuenglingJagr

7th rounder draft choices are the cherry on top for trades.

Dude, they need to put an nhl17 style ai up in Canada that prevents them from making trades with the USA.
- flyers4487

They should at least start giving the Canadian people a vote...it must be like watching Trump and Hillary get nominated

Faster than a Kardashian blows a former NBA all star
- Jsaquella

FTFY

I'm sure Ottawa wanted a center, but would you guys have done Schenn for Zib straight up?
- Feanor

Not sure. With our top 6 centers on lock, is Zib a fit? Also, is he really any better than Schenn or is he another good scoring, not great complimentary player? I know he's a couple years younger, but it seems a lateral move. I'd like to see what else is out there. I'd heavily think about it though. But the idea for trading Schenn is to pick up a better line driver/core piece in the process. Would we be doing that?

just wait till the canucks trade a first for evander kane
- Marc D

(frank) Edmonton, and (frank) Ottawa.

Hexy, call up Calgary and get in on some of that Canadian loopiness. Monahan and a 2nd for Read and AMac...and a 7th.

They should at least start giving the Canadian people a vote...it must be like watching Trump and Hillary get nominated
- YuenglingJagr

I wonder if these trades hurt as bad as the Grez trade back in the day.

Not sure. With our top 6 centers on lock, is Zib a fit? Also, is he really any better than Schenn or is he another good scoring, not great complimentary player? I know he's a couple years younger, but it seems a lateral move. I'd like to see what else is out there. I'd heavily think about it though. But the idea for trading Schenn is to pick up a better line driver/core piece in the process. Would we be doing that?
- Mononoke

I think the key is always to have 3 good centers...I dont think he brings too much to the table defensively, but I think it helps the overall structure of the 4 lines if a deal like that took place

Is it me or has there seemed to be more bad deals this offseason then good ones? I feel like there are more one sided deals this offseason and terrible contracts given out this year.
- J35Bacher

There have definitely been a big number of lopsided deals involving marquee names this offseason than usual.

Ottawa has a solid team and they're probably too good to be a bottom feeder and their last coach was a disaster so there's room for quick improvement there....but this is the perfect time to do what the Flyers did. Retool for a couple years. Win some trades, grow the youth, then set yourself up for glory. This doesn't make Ottawa a contender. It actually is a long term step backwards.

Karlsson, Hoffman, Stone, Chabot, Brown, Turris, Zibanejad. Add in a couple more pieces with a good coach and that's something to build around. Between Phaneuf and this they just seem to be doubling down short term.

So that's three of the top 10 picks in 2011 traded, and RNH is supposedly on the block. I also think Brodin might be traded by the Wild with the expansion draft in mind.

There have definitely been a big number of lopsided deals involving marquee names this offseason than usual.
- jmatchett383

Canucks want scoring.

What would Schenn be worth to them? Can we get in on the Canadian dopiness?

I think the key is always to have 3 good centers...I dont think he brings too much to the table defensively, but I think it helps the overall structure of the 4 lines if a deal like that took place
- YuenglingJagr

Well when his linemates are Dale Weise and Matt Read/Scott Laughton, how will his value be served there? We don't have the wings either to role 3 deep lines. His usage and points would go down. Is he an upgrade at 3C? Haha of course! But is it worth it? He hasn't shown yet he's a line driver capable of improving his teammates play. With Rubtsov and the prospects coming in, 2 years from now is when you'll see a really deep 3rd line potentially.

(frank) Edmonton, and (frank) Ottawa.

Hexy, call up Calgary and get in on some of that Canadian loopiness. Monahan and a 2nd for Read and AMac...and a 7th.
- jmatchett383

I like what Tampa is doing but think they are going to lose one of TJohnson, Palat or Kucherov and would not mind being in on one of those guys

Well when his linemates are Dale Weise and Matt Read/Scott Laughton, how will his value be served there? We don't have the wings either to role 3 deep lines. His usage and points would go down. Is he an upgrade at 3C? Haha of course! But is it worth it? With Rubtsov and the prospects coming in, 2 years from now is when you'll see a really deep 3rd line potentially.
- Mononoke

I think it is really only about is the team getting better? And I think the answer to that is yes. There's no guarantee that Rubtsov does anything, but even still if you make your team better that is all that matters. It certainly gives them another center with higher end skill.

(frank) Edmonton, and (frank) Ottawa.

Hexy, call up Calgary and get in on some of that Canadian loopiness. Monahan and a 2nd for Read and AMac...and a 7th.
- jmatchett383

Outside of Derek Engelland the Flames haven't made many batpoop crazy moves.

Dude, they need to put an nhl17 style ai up in Canada that prevents them from making trades with the USA.
- flyers4487

Come on.

This is a move motivated by a Ukrainian owner who is slowly going bankrupt.

They should at least start giving the Canadian people a vote...it must be like watching Trump and Hillary get nominated
- YuenglingJagr

It's goddamned embarrassing.

Canucks want scoring.

What would Schenn be worth to them? Can we get in on the Canadian dopiness?
- J35Bacher

I'm not a fan of trading Schenn for a pick, but with Benning in charge of the Canucks I'd at least listen if they offered their unprotected 2017 1st along with a UFA like Burrows.

I'm not a fan of trading Schenn for a pick, but with Benning in charge of the Canucks I'd at least listen if they offered their unprotected 2017 1st along with a UFA like Burrows.
- Feanor

I was thinking more of a player like Virtanen and 2017 1st rounder.

Wow another Canadian hockey team gets fleeced.

I think it is really only about is the team getting better? And I think the answer to that is yes. There's no guarantee that Rubtsov does anything, but even still if you make your team better that is all that matters. It certainly gives them another center with higher end skill.
- YuenglingJagr

Will Zib put up 50 points between Weise and Read? You'd be taking out a 50+ point winger (not without his flaws) and putting in a better 3C (not without his flaws) who might not hit 40 there. So the top 6 would get worse. The third line would get better. It all seems like a lateral move to me. Zib is good, but he's kind of a center version of Schenn. As I said, it seems like a lateral move. I don't view him as a potential core piece either.

Will Zib put up 50 points between Weise and Read? You'd be taking out a 50+ point winger (not without his flaws) and putting in a better 3C (not without his flaws) who might not hit 40 there. So the top 6 would get worse. The third line would get better. It all seems like a lateral move to me. Zib is good, but he's kind of a center version of Schenn. As I said, it seems like a lateral move. I don't view him as a potential core piece either.
- Mononoke

Zibanejad can also play wing. I'd do just because I think Zibanejad can be a better player than Schenn down the road.

Will Zib put up 50 points between Weise and Read? You'd be taking out a 50+ point winger (not without his flaws) and putting in a better 3C (not without his flaws) who might not hit 40 there. So the top 6 would get worse. The third line would get better. It all seems like a lateral move to me. Zib is good, but he's kind of a center version of Schenn. As I said, it seems like a lateral move. I don't view him as a potential core piece either.
- Mononoke

I dont see him that way. You are right the key is to ADD a piece to the top 9 to truly improve...but I still think being stronger down the middle is better than stronger on the wing. I do really love Schenn on the PP too...I think hes an understated part of the PP