Carrillo pummeling Talbot had nothing to do with Biron not being able to control his rebounds....I think this is one of the stupidest fairy tales in recent memory
- KINGKENZO

I agree, Carcillo answered a challenge and won the fight. In my opinion, it had zero to do with why the Flyers lost.

Carrillo pummeling Talbot had nothing to do with Biron not being able to control his rebounds....I think this is one of the stupidest fairy tales in recent memory
- KINGKENZO

I think the fight was ill-timed, but the Flyers had time and opportunity to pop in another goal or make a save or a play to turn the game in their favor. They weren't good enough to do any of that in that particular game.

In my view, we can debate Shea Weber as a player, on his own merits, or compared to P.K. Subban. To me that's not the real issue. I don't believe the Habs made the deal as a strict hockey deal. They made it for some other reason, that I don't know if we know exactly why. We can all speculate, but I think they possibly made the deal for all the wrong reasons, based on the speculation. I think Weber is a much better player than some think he is, but even with that, he's not better than Subban. Throw in the age and contract factors, and it's a trade that is in Nashville's favor. I think Subban is absolutely going to thrive in the style of play in Nashville, under Laviolette.

The interesting thing in the case of Weber and Subban is going to be whether or not their #FancyStats will change moving into a different system.

In other words, are Weber's stats, such as they were last year, translatable under a completely different coach on a different team in a different system?

That remains to be seen.

That said, the Weber for Subban trade was still dumb for Montreal.

[quote=Jsaquella]Yeah it's true. The 2009-10 season was a rollercoaster and frustrating, as the team really underachieved. But the playoff run made it a load of fun.

I think a lot of it has to do with expectations going in. Last year was a fun year for me, because I felt that they overachieved by making the playoffs.

Also, July and August are the worst months of the year
- ob18[/quote]

Have you confirmed this ?

Learn how to quote there, chief

You know...one time he was on the Flyers and a Pens fan came up to him and Talbot signed his name with his Pens number
- YuenglingJagr

I didnt know he changed numbers.

Evgeny Medvedev gave an interview to Sportfakt.ru (http://www.sportfakt.ru/hockey/83406/) . I thought it was worth translating a few answers- he offers some insights into last season and Flyers culture. (Rushing through lunch with translation- you will have to forgive style and typos).
Q: Why did you decide to return to KHL instead of staying in the NHL?
A: I wanted to stay overseas, but I was not satisfied with the financial offers from the NHL teams. Contract with “Avangard” seems to be much better.
Q: Which NHL clubs had interest in you?
A: My agent talked to Washington, Colorado, Tampa, Edmonton, and Boston.
Q: What where the discounted offers?
A: About 30% less than in Philadelphia ($ 3 mil.)
Q: What hindered your performance in Philly.
A: I did not have a successful season, mostly due to lingering injuries. They were not serious, but would not let me play at 100%
Q: Do you regret going to the NHL?
A: Not at all. I attained priceless experience. I truly liked NHL- both on and off the ice.
Q: Who do you remain friendly with among the Flyers?
A: Radko Gudas. But in general I have had good relationship with everyone else, especially, when I was able to overcome a language barrier.
Q: What can you say abot communication with Philadelphia stars? For example- Giroux.
A: Great people- always helpful. It was great pleasure to play and communicate with them. I can say absolutely the same about club leadership, which had always supported me. I am truly greatful.
Q: Who is the best NHL player in your opinion?
A: I like Patrick Kane’s game.
Q: Philadelphia lost to Washington in play-offs. Do you think you could have won that series?
A: Yes. There is always a chance of winning, especially in play-offs. The team fought hard, but perhaps, we lacked experience.
Q: Pavel Datsyuk said recently that NHL is leaps and bounds ahead of KHL. Do you agree?
A: He is right, and I agree. There is so much more aggression, action, combativeness on the smaller rink. Everything is so much faster.
Q: is it easier to play defense here or in the NHL?
A: NHL is objectively the best hockey league, so it’s much more interesting to play there.
Q: What do you think of Lyubimov’s contract with the Flyers?
A: He is young and strong. He should be able to manage quick-paced and contact-enabled hockey. He will have his chance. Philadelphia coaches trust young players. He will be OK as long as he works hard and gives 100%. Most important is to get used to a smaller rink.

The interesting thing in the case of Weber and Subban is going to be whether or not their #FancyStats will change moving into a different system.

In other words, are Weber's stats, such as they were last year, translatable under a completely different coach on a different team in a different system?

That remains to be seen.

That said, the Weber for Subban trade was still dumb for Montreal.
- johndewar

Based on coaching staffs and current teammates, their fancy stats will likely continue going in opposite directions.

Evgeny Medvedev gave an interview to Sportfakt.ru (http://www.sportfakt.ru/hockey/83406/) . I thought it was worth translating a few answers- he offers some insights into last season and Flyers culture. (Rushing through lunch with translation- you will have to forgive style and typos).
Q: Why did you decide to return to KHL instead of staying in the NHL?
A: I wanted to stay overseas, but I was not satisfied with the financial offers from the NHL teams. Contract with “Avangard” seems to be much better.
Q: Which NHL clubs had interest in you?
A: My agent talked to Washington, Colorado, Tampa, Edmonton, and Boston.
Q: What where the discounted offers?
A: About 30% less than in Philadelphia ($ 3 mil.)
Q: What hindered your performance in Philly.
A: I did not have a successful season, mostly due to lingering injuries. They were not serious, but would not let me play at 100%
Q: Do you regret going to the NHL?
A: Not at all. I attained priceless experience. I truly liked NHL- both on and off the ice.
Q: Who do you remain friendly with among the Flyers?
A: Radko Gudas. But in general I have had good relationship with everyone else, especially, when I was able to overcome a language barrier.
Q: What can you say abot communication with Philadelphia stars? For example- Giroux.
A: Great people- always helpful. It was great pleasure to play and communicate with them. I can say absolutely the same about club leadership, which had always supported me. I am truly greatful.
Q: Who is the best NHL player in your opinion?
A: I like Patrick Kane’s game.
Q: Philadelphia lost to Washington in play-offs. Do you think you could have won that series?
A: Yes. There is always a chance of winning, especially in play-offs. The team fought hard, but perhaps, we lacked experience.
Q: Pavel Datsyuk said recently that NHL is leaps and bounds ahead of KHL. Do you agree?
A: He is right, and I agree. There is so much more aggression, action, combativeness on the smaller rink. Everything is so much faster.
Q: is it easier to play defense here or in the NHL?
A: NHL is objectively the best hockey league, so it’s much more interesting to play there.
Q: What do you think of Lyubimov’s contract with the Flyers?
A: He is young and strong. He should be able to manage quick-paced and contact-enabled hockey. He will have his chance. Philadelphia coaches trust young players. He will be OK as long as he works hard and gives 100%. Most important is to get used to a smaller rink.
- missingmike

did you use google translate for this? lol you made him sound like a bad guy from a cheesy cold war flick

Gang's all here for today's Flyers Alumni Golf Invitational pic.twitter.com/7QspyQG4Ck

— Philadelphia Flyers (@NHLFlyers) July 18, 2016

did you use google translate for this? lol you made him sound like a bad guy from a cheesy cold war flick
- bulet13

I did not. I know there are limitations to my skills, and I would not mind if you offer a better translation- the link is there.

When it comes to Weber, I think analytics folks under-rate him and eye test people over-rate him.

Analytics folks seem to see a better producing Dion Phaneuf. Non-analytics folks seem to see some kind of Chris Pronger out there. I don't think Weber is anywhere near Pronger, especially in terms of hockey sense and ice vision, but he's not terrible.

My concerns, listed here before, are that Weber's skating could be an issue(one that Pronger mitigated with his amazing hockey smarts & vision), that Montreal lacks a Roman Josi or Ryan Suter to pair with Weber and Weber being 4 years older than Subban.

That said, I expect Montreal to be a playoff team next season, because Price should be fully healthy. Before he was hurt, Montreal was one of the best teams in the NHL. If he is fully healthy and at the same level he has been, they'll be a successful team

I did not. I would not mind if you offer a better translation- the link is there.
- missingmike

Can't access it on my work computer. I can pull it up on my phone though if you really want another translation

Can't access it on my work computer. I can pull it up on my phone though if you really want another translation
- bulet13

It's not about me. I believe, our fellow HB readers would appreciate a higher quality translation if available.

On the personal note, I do not appreciate your evaluation of my translation without reading the original.

When it comes to Weber, I think analytics folks under-rate him and eye test people over-rate him.

Analytics folks seem to see a better producing Dion Phaneuf. Non-analytics folks seem to see some kind of Chris Pronger out there. I don't think Weber is anywhere near Pronger, especially in terms of hockey sense and ice vision, but he's not terrible.

My concerns, listed here before, are that Weber's skating could be an issue(one that Pronger mitigated with his amazing hockey smarts & vision), that Montreal lacks a Roman Josi or Ryan Suter to pair with Weber and Weber being 4 years older than Subban.

That said, I expect Montreal to be a playoff team next season, because Price should be fully healthy. Before he was hurt, Montreal was one of the best teams in the NHL. If he is fully healthy and at the same level he has been, they'll be a successful team
- Jsaquella

Weber is still a top-pair defenseman who brings a mean, nasty game that not many other top-pair guys can dish out. That said, he's not the Shea Weber from 2012, or even 2014, and he looked absolutely beaten down in the second round last season. At the time of the offer sheet, he was the closest thing the NHL had to another Chris Pronger, but it's become clear that he won't have the same longevity. In all likelihood, Subban will have more successful years going forward than Weber will, but that doesn't mean Weber is an "average" defenseman.

It's not about me. I believe, our fellow HB readers would appreciate a higher quality translation if available.

On the personal note, I do not appreciate your evaluation of my translation without reading the original.
- missingmike

thats the most aggressive passive-aggresiveness ive seen in a while

So with some of the depth signings, is there a chance guys like Vandevelde or possibly Read could start in the AHL if they don't have a good camp?

Battling for the bottom 6 roles I have these guys listed that could possibly be there:

Laughton
Raffl
Weise
Read
Bellemare
Cousins
Vandevelde
Roman Lyubimov
Leier
Cole Bardreau

And maybe you figure Konecny if he has a fabulous camp.

So with some of the depth signings, is there a chance guys like Vandevelde or possibly Read could start in the AHL if they don't have a good camp?

Battling for the bottom 6 roles I have these guys listed that could possibly be there:

Laughton
Raffl
Weise
Read
Bellemare
Cousins
Vandevelde
Roman Lyubimov
Leier
Cole Bardreau

And maybe you figure Konecny if he has a fabulous camp.
- J35Bacher

I don't see Read going to the AHL simply due to his PK play, and I don't think Weise or Laughton go down either.. I think VDV and the Russian could go down, though, as could everyone else.

I don't see Read going to the AHL simply due to his PK play, and I don't think Weise or Laughton go down either.. I think VDV and the Russian could go down, though, as could everyone else.
- jmatchett383

I could see Read getting a chance to show he can step up his play but his PK wasn't that great last year. With him seeming to lost his speed, I wonder if others get a shot on the PK over him.

Does Raffl switch to the 3rd line center this year or is that Cousins spot to lose?

did you use google translate for this? lol you made him sound like a bad guy from a cheesy cold war flick
- bulet13

I was thinking more like Boris from Rocky and Bullwinkle. We make big trouble for moose and squirrel.

Weber is still a top-pair defenseman who brings a mean, nasty game that not many other top-pair guys can dish out. That said, he's not the Shea Weber from 2012, or even 2014, and he looked absolutely beaten down in the second round last season. At the time of the offer sheet, he was the closest thing the NHL had to another Chris Pronger, but it's become clear that he won't have the same longevity. In all likelihood, Subban will have more successful years going forward than Weber will, but that doesn't mean Weber is an "average" defenseman.
- jmatchett383

I think he's an elite offensive defenseman, but a slightly above average defensive defenseman. I think you have to factor in both, which definitely makes him more than an average NHLer.

I think he's a rich man's Phaneuf, because of his offensive production. And I think Phaneuf's a borderline top pair guy.

When it comes to Weber, I think analytics folks under-rate him and eye test people over-rate him.

Analytics folks seem to see a better producing Dion Phaneuf. Non-analytics folks seem to see some kind of Chris Pronger out there. I don't think Weber is anywhere near Pronger, especially in terms of hockey sense and ice vision, but he's not terrible.

My concerns, listed here before, are that Weber's skating could be an issue(one that Pronger mitigated with his amazing hockey smarts & vision), that Montreal lacks a Roman Josi or Ryan Suter to pair with Weber and Weber being 4 years older than Subban.

That said, I expect Montreal to be a playoff team next season, because Price should be fully healthy. Before he was hurt, Montreal was one of the best teams in the NHL. If he is fully healthy and at the same level he has been, they'll be a successful team
- Jsaquella

It's crazy how much a healthy Price impacts that team. I don't remember last time a starting goalie had THAT much of an impact. Obviously starting goalies are really really important, but they went from having a spot all but locked in thanksgiving, to a lottery team..

Trade: Rangers trade Brassard & a 7th rounder to Ottawa for Zibanejad & a 2nd

Trade: Rangers trade Brassard & a 7th rounder to Ottawa for Zibanajad & a 2nd
- Jsaquella

Holy highway robbery nyr