lumlums
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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it is what it is, but I don't think it's accurate at all or should be used for anything but the new Xbox or PS game - Lucas.Neilson
And therein lies the inherent problem - lots of people will dismiss the data that they see if it doesn't meet their preset opinion or hypothesis. What it should do is prompt people to either look deeper into other ways in which the player they believe is better excels relative to the other, or consider changing their opinion if all data opposes their current viewpoint. |
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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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senstroll
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Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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Maybe the Sens do believe the Miracle run Playoff team is the True Team and not the mediocre miss the playoffs team of last season.
Trade is a wash for maybe this season, but past that could be a very bad deal for the Sens. |
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Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON Joined: 06.26.2015
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Maybe the Sens do believe the Miracle run Playoff team is the True Team and not the mediocre miss the playoffs team of last season.
Trade is a wash for maybe this season, but past that could be a very bad deal for the Sens. - senstroll
Zib is pretty decent ive always felt - big body and getting better each year. |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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Maybe the Sens do believe the Miracle run Playoff team is the True Team and not the mediocre miss the playoffs team of last season.
Trade is a wash for maybe this season, but past that could be a very bad deal for the Sens. - senstroll
Could be cap/cash considerations too. Brassard is 5 mil cap hit for the next 3 years on a contract that was pretty front loaded. Zib is rfa after next season and due for a big raise.
New york also ate this year's bonus on Brassard.
EDIT: Man the salary cap just takes the fun out of trades |
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Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON Joined: 06.26.2015
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Zib is pretty decent ive always felt - big body and getting better each year. - Lucas.Neilson
#6 overall..wow, cowen gone last year to us...#9 overall.
sens just dishing away former first round picks!
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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In what way? It's data, pure and simple. It takes data points for a player and uses it to rank them relative to all other players in the same metric with a normalization for time. Now obviously each point is limited to just the particular thing that it measures, but it seems that folks forget that the data itself is completely inanimate - If you want to blame individual people for misusing them or being over-zealous with them that's one thing but that's on them. - lumlums
One of my favourite things about some of the advanced stats guys is that the whole basis of their perfect calculations is subject to considerable error and subjective interpretation.
Yet, somehow, they manage to express their numbers to tenths of a percent accuracy.
... and call the rest of us stupid and narrow minded.
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Sens trade - senstroll
I thought just last week Spatso told us Zibbanejihad was rounding into a great second line center. |
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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.25.2011
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I thought just last week Spatso told us Zibbanejihad was rounding into a great second line center. - Aetherial
He is.
.... For New York |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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If you use all the metrics then you get problems with covariance. Ultimately, you just want to identify that correct independent variables that actually explain the results.
The methodology for the bolded shouldn't be arbitrary but mathematical in nature. - TheMussel
Why shouldn't it be arbitrary, when you can state your conclusions and explain away anything counter to your conclusions as "luck"?
People like Tanner, Yost, Mirtle have yet to realize that you can't "prove" something is correct by simply saying it is, and discounting any dissenting evidence.
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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I thought just last week Spatso told us Zibbanejihad was rounding into a great second line center. - Aetherial
The young rebuilding aens |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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He is.
.... For New York - lumlums
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senstroll
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Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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I thought just last week Spatso told us Zibbanejihad was rounding into a great second line center. - Aetherial
I look forward to his insightful Analysis of the deal and how its a great move for the Sens |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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The young rebuilding aens - systemtool
Bright future
Best player in the league
New Building
Owner who is transforming the city
It's (frank)ing utopia there man.
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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I look forward to his insightful Analysis of the deal and how its a great move for the Sens - senstroll
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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Bright future
Best player in the league
New Building
Owner who is transforming the city
It's (frank)ing utopia there man. - Aetherial
First phaneuf now this |
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MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 07.10.2010
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Incarcerated Bob IBN
@incarceratedbob
**UPDATED NHL RUMORS**
Rangers shopping Brassard
Canadiens will listen on @PKSubban1 (turned down 2 offers)
Devils called about RNH & Hall
12:00 PM - 7 Jun 2016
lol oh... |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Incarcerated Bob IBN
@incarceratedbob
**UPDATED NHL RUMORS**
Rangers shopping Brassard
Canadiens will listen on @PKSubban1 (turned down 2 offers)
Devils called about RNH & Hall
12:00 PM - 7 Jun 2016
lol oh... - MCharisma91
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Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON Joined: 06.26.2015
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- AdamFrench
bob smokes the good stuff |
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WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone Joined: 04.17.2015
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bob smokes the good stuff - Lucas.Neilson
He does seem to have found a more reliable source of late |
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MCharisma91
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 07.10.2010
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He does seem to have found a more reliable source of late - WingmanWillie
don't tell Lums |
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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bob smokes the good stuff - Lucas.Neilson
It helps for sure.. |
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PlatosRepucklic
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: #TradeMarner Joined: 11.07.2015
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He does seem to have found a more reliable source of late - WingmanWillie
Ek's Russian source? |
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Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON Joined: 06.26.2015
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He does seem to have found a more reliable source of late - WingmanWillie
Oregon, Washington State, Colorado... |
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