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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:52 PM ET
Look at the thejonathans post on the main page. That has to be the Isles FB dude..
- mdw7413

Holy crap. I think it's worse that he identifies as an Islanders AND Rangers fan. That was one tremendous load of incoherent crap.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 18 @ 2:53 PM ET
Holy crap. I think it's worse that he identifies as an Islanders AND Rangers fan. That was one tremendous load of incoherent crap.
- eichiefs9

eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 18 @ 2:54 PM ET
Who let Jimbo onto the Montreal craigslist?

Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 18 @ 3:00 PM ET
Will read all your comments on and post my analysis of the trade later. Apologies, a bit jammed at work.
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Jul 18 @ 3:00 PM ET
Will read all your comments on and post my analysis of the trade later. Apologies, a bit jammed at work.
- airjan23



You may want to skip a few.
WineryDog
New York Rangers
Location: VA
Joined: 01.12.2015

Jul 18 @ 3:07 PM ET
They got younger. They got more upside. They got a right handed shot. And, they now have $2.4 million worth of cap space to use this year, and whatever manner they deem fit. Personally, I see them signing Hudler or Gagner with that money.
- Pete V



This does lead to speculation they make another move that increases payroll. I like your suggestions, but I'll add a 4C to the mix. It's the one position they really don't have going into the season. Maybe they overpay for a Matt Cullen or trade for someone who's at $2/$2.5.

Also, I wouldn't be shocked it they trade a large salary for large(r) salary, i.e. send G or Staal out and take back $6+. We'll see. Things finally got interesting!

eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 18 @ 3:17 PM ET
This does lead to speculation they make another move that increases payroll. I like your suggestions, but I'll add a 4C to the mix. It's the one position they really don't have going into the season. Maybe they overpay for a Matt Cullen or trade for someone who's at $2/$2.5.

Also, I wouldn't be shocked it they trade a large salary for large(r) salary, i.e. send G or Staal out and take back $6+. We'll see. Things finally got interesting!

- WineryDog

Pat Leonard ‏@PLeonardNYDN 52s52 seconds ago
Gorton's tone is that he is done. He won't discuss other deals he might be planning, but several times says things can still change #NYR


WineryDog
New York Rangers
Location: VA
Joined: 01.12.2015

Jul 18 @ 3:25 PM ET
Pat Leonard ‏@PLeonardNYDN 52s52 seconds ago
Gorton's tone is that he is done. He won't discuss other deals he might be planning, but several times says things can still change #NYR

- eichiefs9



Yeah, if another other GM agrees to my proposal, then things will change.
Maverick713
New York Rangers
Location: Houston, TX
Joined: 03.11.2015

Jul 18 @ 3:25 PM ET
Who let Jimbo onto the Montreal craigslist?


- eichiefs9



SO are the leafs the only Canadian team to not disappoint the fanbase this off season so far, I mean they have decades of disappointment to contend with but ya know...
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 18 @ 3:27 PM ET
SO are the leafs the only Canadian team to not disappoint the fanbase this off season so far, I mean they have decades of disappointment to contend with but ya know...
- Maverick713

Calgary had a pretty good offseason. Landed Tkachuk in the draft, got a #1 goaltender. Brouwer deal wasn't amazing, but it wasn't terrible either.
WineryDog
New York Rangers
Location: VA
Joined: 01.12.2015

Jul 18 @ 3:29 PM ET
This does lead to speculation they make another move that increases payroll. I like your suggestions, but I'll add a 4C to the mix. It's the one position they really don't have going into the season. Maybe they overpay for a Matt Cullen or trade for someone who's at $2/$2.5.

Also, I wouldn't be shocked it they trade a large salary for large(r) salary, i.e. send G or Staal out and take back $6+. We'll see. Things finally got interesting!

- WineryDog


I'm going to go full Jabroni and respond to myself.

Forgot about Jooris, so scratch that 4C thing. Salary for Salary trade in season. You heard it here first.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 18 @ 3:32 PM ET
Pat Leonard ‏@PLeonardNYDN 52s52 seconds ago
Gorton's tone is that he is done. He won't discuss other deals he might be planning, but several times says things can still change #NYR

- eichiefs9

Gorton is done for good? Or just for today? So he is back at Applebees
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 18 @ 3:33 PM ET
Yeah, if another other GM agrees to my proposal, then things will change.
- WineryDog

Yeah but what's the likelihood of that. Girardi is terrible and grossly overpaid, someone isn't going to send you back a deceny $6M player for a terrible $5.5M player. Staal is decent, but still not going to land you a significantly better player making marginally more money.

My guess is that any more expensive player you want isn't going to be the return for either of those two and any more expensive player that would come back in return for one of them isn't going to be very good either.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 18 @ 3:33 PM ET
Gorton is done for good? Or just for today? So he is back at Applebees
- TPC

Must be at Applebees, because I was leaving to pickup my carside order today when I saw the Rangers made this trade. Can't be a coincidence.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 18 @ 3:36 PM ET
Gorton is done for good? Or just for today? So he is back at Applebees
- TPC


I do not believe he is done. One of the best short term things about this deal is that it gives the Rangers space, and while I think it does provide them with flexibility to get Kreider locked in at a potentially higher rate, I also don't think the Rangers are going to go into the season with an excess of unused cap space. Not to mention, if they sign one of these remaining free agents to a cheap one year deal, those type players also can bring a return of assets at the deadline (which the Rangers could use). I think the Rangers should now be looking at the second tier UFA market.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 18 @ 3:38 PM ET
it's safe to say that the organization was spooked by the awful Penalty kill this season. Ziba, Grabner and Jooris all are penalty killers. And if you think back a couple years ago the PK saved this team many nights. Also I wonder if Beukeboom hire had anything to do with that aswell.
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jul 18 @ 3:38 PM ET
This does lead to speculation they make another move that increases payroll. I like your suggestions, but I'll add a 4C to the mix. It's the one position they really don't have going into the season. Maybe they overpay for a Matt Cullen or trade for someone who's at $2/$2.5.

Also, I wouldn't be shocked it they trade a large salary for large(r) salary, i.e. send G or Staal out and take back $6+. We'll see. Things finally got interesting!

- WineryDog

Klein for Athanisiou and sign Schultz, Athanasiou and Zibanijad could be a good combo, we could call them the "Is that guy on the terrorist watch list" line
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 18 @ 3:45 PM ET
Klein for Athanisiou and sign Schultz, Athanasiou and Zibanijad could be a good combo, we could call them the "Is that guy on the terrorist watch list" line
- KreiderBomb

Athanisiou exploded onto the scene out of nowhere last year. Looks like a great young player. Not sure the Wings would want to deal him for an older player.

Schultz resigned with Pitt btw
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jul 18 @ 3:46 PM ET
Athanisiou exploded onto the scene out of nowhere last year. Looks like a great young player. Not sure the Wings would want to deal him for an older player.

Schultz resigned with Pitt btw

- rangerdanger94

poop how did I miss that? Detroit has a lot of wingers now
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Jul 18 @ 3:52 PM ET
Klein for Athanisiou and sign Schultz, Athanasiou and Zibanijad could be a good combo, we could call them the "Is that guy on the terrorist watch list" line
- KreiderBomb

All we would need would be to acquire Nick Bonino.
WineryDog
New York Rangers
Location: VA
Joined: 01.12.2015

Jul 18 @ 3:54 PM ET
Yeah but what's the likelihood of that. Girardi is terrible and grossly overpaid, someone isn't going to send you back a deceny $6M player for a terrible $5.5M player. Staal is decent, but still not going to land you a significantly better player making marginally more money.

My guess is that any more expensive player you want isn't going to be the return for either of those two and any more expensive player that would come back in return for one of them isn't going to be very good either.

- eichiefs9


Probably not very likely, but if you trade one set of problems for another, it could (note the could) happen. LA is so cash strapped, they could do a Brown for Girardi swap, where NY retains a portion of salary. I doubt the Rangers want Brown, but I'm certain there's a situation somewhere around the league where the deal could make sense. Whether it happens or not is another story.

As I think about it, A Nash trade with retained salary could happen, although I'm one of the few in the Nash camp, so I hope it doesn't happen unless it's a clear win for NY.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 18 @ 4:29 PM ET
poop how did I miss that? Detroit has a lot of wingers now
- KreiderBomb

I just think they'd get a better offer from some other team for a younger defenseman
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Jul 18 @ 4:45 PM ET
We should have signed a 4th liner like Czikas who never scored 10 goals to 3.5 mill a year long term.
- mdw7413




Hes got a lot of character tho
MiloslavHorava
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 02.12.2016

Jul 18 @ 4:51 PM ET
Rangers will save this $2.4M on this deal and the $7.8MM from Nash's deal after next year to bring John Tavares to the New York Rangers!!


Parentaeu, Chimera and Czikas aren't going to be enough to keep him on the Islanders. Another season wasted for JT
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jul 18 @ 4:56 PM ET
I am going to miss Brassard. He was a real solid Ranger, and a very good playoff performer, but I like this trade a lot for the Rangers long term, and maybe in the short term as well if they do something with the $2.4 million they freed up. Interesting trade to say the least.
- Pete V

Good trade
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