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hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 16 @ 3:44 PM ET
I just wouldn't waste the roster spot or cap space. Now this guy is a guy that can cause problems in a dressing room
- VANTEL


I don`t care where Vrbata signs, nhl or europe, as long as he isn`t back here.

Hudler might have a better attitude but I don`t see the fit.


Cassels-

http://canucksarmy.com/20...2f-4f67-b4d1-b3e6892283bd
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jul 16 @ 3:46 PM ET
The Open Championship.....great early morning tv if you love golf. Most Canuck fans should start to like golf lol
- LeftCoaster

As long as Lefty doesnt win it Im happy.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 16 @ 4:04 PM ET
I don`t care where Vrbata signs, nhl or europe, as long as he isn`t back here.

Hudler might have a better attitude but I don`t see the fit.


Cassels-

http://canucksarmy.com/20...2f-4f67-b4d1-b3e6892283bd

- hillbillydeluxe

I read that earlier.

The nice thing about it is , our cupboards were bare two years ago and practically every roster on here had him as #4 center. Now that we are less of a panic mode we hope he springs back but we can still compete with out him
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 16 @ 4:39 PM ET
I read that earlier.

The nice thing about it is , our cupboards were bare two years ago and practically every roster on here had him as #4 center. Now that we are less of a panic mode we hope he springs back but we can still compete with out him

- VANTEL


I have been a little frustrated with JB trading for contracts of players who have yet to have established themselves as maybe everyday NHLers like Granlund but as you say, it kind of sets who will be in the lineup and the luxury of not rushing other guys who need more seasoning and development in Utica.

I`m wondering if we will see Sutter on the right wing again this season?

and with the expectation of JB making another move, if he makes a trade for a winger, another forward has to be moved or exposed to waivers to make room, could that mean Etem or Burrows waived?

Grenier still has to sign, but I don't think there would be much hesitation to waive him if room is needed and I think whoever just signed like Megna would have to clear.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 16 @ 4:48 PM ET
I have been a little frustrated with JB trading for contracts of players who have yet to have established themselves as maybe everyday NHLers like Granlund but as you say, it kind of sets who will be in the lineup and the luxury of not rushing other guys who need more seasoning and development in Utica.

I`m wondering if we will see Sutter on the right wing again this season?

and with the expectation of JB making another move, if he makes a trade for a winger, another forward has to be moved or exposed to waivers to make room, could that mean Etem or Burrows waived?

Grenier still has to sign, but I don't think there would be much hesitation to waive him if room is needed and I think whoever just signed like Megna would have to clear.

- hillbillydeluxe



I honestly believe Granlund is a utility player. In and out.

Etem it depends how he plays? If he plays like he did when he came here , he will be gone. If he plays like he did at the end of last year he will be rewarded.

Sutter will play center. We have too many wings already.

LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 16 @ 4:56 PM ET
As long as Lefty doesnt win it Im happy.
- vancity787

I was hoping for Sergio, but much like the Nucks, he just can't get it done.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 16 @ 4:59 PM ET
I honestly believe Granlund is a utility player. In and out.

Etem it depends how he plays? If he plays like he did when he came here , he will be gone. If he plays like he did at the end of last year he will be rewarded.

Sutter will play center. We have too many wings already.

- VANTEL

We need to be focusing on center position and offensive zone face offs. We were very poor there last season. Also if Trymakin makes the team WD better put his ass in front of the net on the PP. Have them playing a high low game much like San Jose. Zone entry is also key.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 16 @ 4:59 PM ET
I honestly believe Granlund is a utility player. In and out.

Etem it depends how he plays? If he plays like he did when he came here , he will be gone. If he plays like he did at the end of last year he will be rewarded.

Sutter will play center. We have too many wings already.

- VANTEL


We do, but I think JB wants another 2nd line winger. JB said something about seeing Sven as a 3rd line winger or not wanting to rush him into that 2nd line role. I think JB also suggested Rodin would be 3rd line winger.

Sedins Eriksson
Etem/Burrows/UFA Sutter Hansen
Sven Bo Rodin

if we don't sign a ufa, I'd rather see:
Sedins Eriksson
Sven Bo Sutter
Etem Granlund Hansen

or some other 3rd line combo

I wonder how much training camp will influence the lineup or if WD has something in mind already?
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 16 @ 5:02 PM ET
We do, but I think JB wants another 2nd line winger. JB said something about seeing Sven as a 3rd line winger or not wanting to rush him into that 2nd line role. I think JB also suggested Rodin would be 3rd line winger.

Sedins Eriksson
Etem/Burrows/UFA Sutter Hansen
Sven Bo Rodin

if we don't sign a ufa, I'd rather see:
Sedins Eriksson
Sven Bo Sutter
Etem Granlund Hansen

or some other 3rd line combo

I wonder how much training camp will influence the lineup or if WD has something in mind already?

- hillbillydeluxe

Sutter is much better on the face-offs dot than everyone on our team as I just said we need to strengthen that area.
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 16 @ 5:06 PM ET
What the hell, A's were down 2-0, I go make some lunch for five minutes and it's now 4-3
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 16 @ 5:13 PM ET
Sutter is much better on the face-offs dot than everyone on our team as I just said we need to strengthen that area.
- thundachunk


I liked Sutter when he was on the Sedin's wing. And was able to take some faceoffs too.

maybe I shouldn't get caught up on line numbers, but I see Bo getting more points, being better offensively than Sutter

Some don't think Bo is ready for the 2nd line centre role, I think his offensive game is there but he might need some help around the defensive side of the puck.

but if you keep Sutter at centre, I guess Bo will get some easier match-ups and we are stronger down the middle.

unless we sign a ufa, I don't think a line of this, Etem/Burrows Sutter Hansen is much of an offensive threat
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 16 @ 5:18 PM ET
I liked Sutter when he was on the Sedin's wing. And was able to take some faceoffs too.

maybe I shouldn't get caught up on line numbers, but I see Bo getting more points, being better offensively than Sutter

Some don't think Bo is ready for the 2nd line centre role, I think his offensive game is there but he might need some help around the defensive side of the puck.

but if you keep Sutter at centre, I guess Bo will get some easier match-ups and we are stronger down the middle.

unless we sign a ufa, I don't think a line of this, Etem/Burrows Sutter Hansen is much of an offensive threat

- hillbillydeluxe


I don't see signing a UFA. I see a trade
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 16 @ 5:31 PM ET
I don`t care where Vrbata signs, nhl or europe, as long as he isn`t back here.

Hudler might have a better attitude but I don`t see the fit.


Cassels-

http://canucksarmy.com/20...2f-4f67-b4d1-b3e6892283bd

- hillbillydeluxe

This is just it…risky.

I see what MNGT would want with Hudler, JB may want to try to recreate how great Hudler was with Monahan and Gaudreau and plant him on a line with Bo and Sven…similar kind of mentorship but the problem is Bo and Sven aren't quite as good as Monahan and Gaudreau. Agree I'm just not sure where Hudler would fit. Soft player and I don't see him working with Bo or Sutter.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 16 @ 5:32 PM ET
Kane isn't much of a risk in my opinion. Of course that is vastly dependent on the cost to acquire him. If he keeps up his off ice antics then you expose him in the expansion draft and good riddance. If he doesn't go during that (he would arguably be the best option on our team despite his downfalls), then his contract expires the year after and he won't make the big bucks anymore.

I still think being at home he would be better. Wishful thinking maybe but I just think it would be a home run for the organization to sell tickets and such.
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 16 @ 5:35 PM ET
I liked Sutter when he was on the Sedin's wing. And was able to take some faceoffs too.

maybe I shouldn't get caught up on line numbers, but I see Bo getting more points, being better offensively than Sutter

Some don't think Bo is ready for the 2nd line centre role, I think his offensive game is there but he might need some help around the defensive side of the puck.

but if you keep Sutter at centre, I guess Bo will get some easier match-ups and we are stronger down the middle.

unless we sign a ufa, I don't think a line of this, Etem/Burrows Sutter Hansen is much of an offensive threat

- hillbillydeluxe

Sutter needs to play center to take the defensive responsibilities away from Horvat. Bo needs more o-zone starts, that'll help his +/- and hopefully his points.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jul 16 @ 5:35 PM ET
I don't see signing a UFA. I see a trade
- VANTEL


There is absolutely no room for another signing. Still have Grenier and Pedan who were issued qualifying offers. Max cap space I see is around 3 million but probably more like 2 ish. I agree, trade is the only way or the roster starts the way it is.

thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 16 @ 5:35 PM ET
I liked Sutter when he was on the Sedin's wing. And was able to take some faceoffs too.

maybe I shouldn't get caught up on line numbers, but I see Bo getting more points, being better offensively than Sutter

Some don't think Bo is ready for the 2nd line centre role, I think his offensive game is there but he might need some help around the defensive side of the puck.

but if you keep Sutter at centre, I guess Bo will get some easier match-ups and we are stronger down the middle.

unless we sign a ufa, I don't think a line of this, Etem/Burrows Sutter Hansen is much of an offensive threat

- hillbillydeluxe
I honestly don't see any of those players playing with Sutter.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 16 @ 5:36 PM ET
Kane isn't much of a risk in my opinion. Of course that is vastly dependent on the cost to acquire him. If he keeps up his off ice antics then you expose him in the expansion draft and good riddance. If he doesn't go during that (he would arguably be the best option on our team despite his downfalls), then his contract expires the year after and he won't make the big bucks anymore.

I still think being at home he would be better. Wishful thinking maybe but I just think it would be a home run for the organization to sell tickets and such.

- WhatTheNuck

If the cost is low and we can squeeze 20 goals out of him it's worth the risk.
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 16 @ 5:43 PM ET
I honestly don't see any of those players playing with Sutter.
- thundachunk

Who plays with Sutter? He's like an offensive dead zone outside of his 20 goals, Hudler, who can pass, would actually be a good fit offensively.

What I mean by that is Sutter doesn't "create" offence for his wingers. Very good on the dot and ok defensively though.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 16 @ 5:53 PM ET
Sedin Sedin Eriksson
Beartschi Sutter Hansen
Burrows Horvat Vitanen
Rodin Granlund Dorsett

Gaunce, Etem

Unless (as Vantel says) a trade is coming I would say this is pretty close to what we will see.

I don't dislike Etem but I don't believe in him either. He is not consistent. I actually have more faith in Gaunce making the team.

Lets say Kane is coming over. Burrows or Hansen needs to be moved with that trade. Financially that is the only scenario I can see happening.

Lots of scenarios are going to play out this season.

I for one wouldn't mind Vrbata back at the right price.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 16 @ 5:54 PM ET
Who plays with Sutter? He's like an offensive dead zone outside of his 20 goals, Hudler, who can pass, would actually be a good fit offensively.

What I mean by that is Sutter doesn't "create" offence for his wingers. Very good on the dot and ok defensively though.

- LeftCoaster

The right winger would do him a world of wonders.
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 16 @ 6:08 PM ET
The right winger would do him a world of wonders.
- thundachunk

That puts pressure on Bo though, from all indications last year, he needs more time to round out his game.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 16 @ 6:12 PM ET
That puts pressure on Bo though, from all indications last year, he needs more time to round out his game.
- LeftCoaster

At least he is putting in the work. He will get there.
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 16 @ 6:15 PM ET
At least he is putting in the work. He will get there.
- thundachunk

No question, he's really young! Team needs more centres though.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 16 @ 6:15 PM ET
Offensively I really don't see us that improved.

Defensively I believe we are improved.

Goaltending I am not worried about.
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