Lol are you honestly justifying Seguin for Eriksson. Subban for Weber is no where close to as bad as a deal. How old was Seguin when your team traded him. is Eriksson even part of your team. So in all you traded Seguin for poop.
- Mr.FunFacts

And you traded Subban, a top 5 defenseman in this league, for a defenseman that is signed until he's 41 years old and has already begun a rapid decline. Eriksson was a top winger when PC traded for him. Seguin was being an a-hole and the Bruins were trying to win another cup. It didn't work. That's life

The Bruins are going to fight with the Bolts for top spot in the Atlantic. No other team out east has better depth at center than we do. It did not set us back a decade.

The PK trade was like trading your entire franchise away. The Habs will be beyond terrible without him. One of only three teams in the league that does not have a superstar.
- Bruiniak

Make the playoffs first. You can argue Boston has one of the worst D's in the league Tampa would shred you in a 7 game series.

The Bruins are going to fight with the Bolts for top spot in the Atlantic. No other team out east has better depth at center than we do. It did not set us back a decade.

The PK trade was like trading your entire franchise away. The Habs will be beyond terrible without him. One of only three teams in the league that does not have a superstar.
- Bruiniak

Boston gets a huge bump from Bergeron and Chara, but even with them I still think they'll be hard pressed to make the Playoffs.

Florida and Tampa are easily the best two teams in the division. Ottawa's a wild care because they really don't have that bad of a roster and the Leafs and Sabres are both on their way up. I see Detroit, Montreal and Boston as teams on the decline.

Boston gets a huge bump from Bergeron and Chara, but even with them I still think they'll be hard pressed to make the Playoffs.

Florida and Tampa are easily the best two teams in the division. Ottawa's a wild care because they really don't have that bad of a roster and the Leafs and Sabres are both on their way up. I see Detroit, Montreal and Boston as teams on the decline.
- James_Tanner

Montreal will finish first in that division

And you traded Subban, a top 5 defenseman in this league, for a defenseman that is signed until he's 41 years old and has already begun a rapid decline. Eriksson was a top winger when PC traded for him. Seguin was being an a-hole and the Bruins were trying to win another cup. It didn't work. That's life
- Bruiniak

As much as i hate the Subban trade I don't get all the hate for Weber lol good luck scoring on the Habs this year with Price and weber next to each other. Just remember you said Boston vs Tampa in the Conference finals.

just because he's what the oilers needed it doesn't make it not a terrible trade....in terms of value.
- sensarmy_11

I think Larson makes them a better Team but I'm sure Edmonton could have gotten a first round pick or a second and third thrown in if they held out. That would be a fair value for Hall.

- WaterBoy

Sorry, I forgot Price. The guy who became a superstar after playing one great season in a Michel Therrien system that promotes 5 guys standing at the blueline. Price certainly had à dominant year last year.

I don't consider Price a star. Sorry. I would take Rask ahead of Price any day of the week.

To be fair, only morons would trade Subban for Weber.
- Bruiniak

Montreal will finished first in that division
- WaterBoy

If we stay healthy I can finally agree with you. FINALLY Tabarnak
(can't write French)

Boston gets a huge bump from Bergeron and Chara, but even with them I still think they'll be hard pressed to make the Playoffs.

Florida and Tampa are easily the best two teams in the division. Ottawa's a wild care because they really don't have that bad of a roster and the Leafs and Sabres are both on their way up. I see Detroit, Montreal and Boston as teams on the decline.
- James_Tanner

Really? Chara is no longer our best defenseman. Florida's depth in the middle doesn't even come close to the Bruins. Center is the most important position. I don't think the Panthers could compete with the Bruins in a 7 game series. Too young. They'll be good in a few years. Toronto and Montreal will battle for the last spot.

Sorry, I forgot Price. The guy who became a superstar after playing one great season in a Michel Therrien system that promotes 5 guys standing at the blueline. Price certainly had à dominant year last year.

I don't consider Price a star. Sorry. I would take Rask ahead of Price any day of the week.
- Bruiniak

Rask is great, Price is great. Both teams are lucky for the goaltending they have.

Want to bet they can't do it this year either (replace Hall with Larsson).

Do you not agree that Edmonton was flawed?

Sometimes the absolute value of something, however you care to measure it, is not the point. Sometimes you have to overpay for what you need. If Dmen good enough to make a significant improvement to your team were readily available, they would not cost Taylor Hall. They aren't.

Do you think there were better defensive, right-handed Dmen out there available in a trade for Taylor Hall. Do you believe Chiarelli didn't pursue the dmen he was interested in?
- Aetherial

I agree with this, and also, having the fortune of having Puj drop to #4 could have swayed their decision in making this move as well or given them more room to gamble on a valuable asset. He could/will be able to take over and put up the same numbers as Hall.

just because he's what the oilers needed it doesn't make it not a terrible trade....in terms of value.
- sensarmy_11

D worth more than a winger

What did you want a 3rd or 4th round pick going to Jersey?

Meh, it's not that bad and the Oil are a better team this year compared to last year.

As much as i hate the Subban trade I don't get all the hate for Weber lol good luck scoring on the Habs this year with Price and weber next to each other. Just remember you said Boston vs Tampa in the Conference finals.
- Mr.FunFacts

No I didn't. They are in the game division. It could happen I guess with Gary's bizare system but either way I do believe the three best teams in the east right now are: Tampa, Boston and Pittsburgh.

Really? Chara is no longer our best defenseman. Florida's depth in the middle doesn't even come close to the Bruins. Center is the most important position. I don't think the Panthers could compete with the Bruins in a 7 game series. Too young. They'll be good in a few years. Toronto and Montreal will battle for the last spot.
- Bruiniak

So Krugs your best D man now?? So scary.

Really? Chara is no longer our best defenseman. Florida's depth in the middle doesn't even come close to the Bruins. Center is the most important position. I don't think the Panthers could compete with the Bruins in a 7 game series. Too young. They'll be good in a few years. Toronto and Montreal will battle for the last spot.
- Bruiniak

The Panthers are going to be a great team - they're absolutely stacked.

Whatever the Bruins added to their team this summer won't equal the loss of the crazy underrated Louis Eriksson.

But what is value? Sometimes getting rid of someone is a bigger value than keeping them.
- Sn1362

No I didn't. They are in the game division. It could happen I guess with Gary's bizare system but either way I do believe the three best teams in the east right now are: Tampa, Boston and Pittsburgh.
- Bruiniak

Where's the Caps?

Yes, 100% its front loaded. Not sure about the 2/3 having been paid out though...
- The Rocket

It was heavily front-loaded. Flyers set it up that way in hopes of forcing the Preds hand at not matching the offer-sheet. At the time there were rumblings that Preds had cash flow issues. It was a heavy bonus-laden deal where the actual salaries drop off as the years go by. I'm assuming the numbers on the link are accurate.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/shea-weber

Boston gets a huge bump from Bergeron and Chara, but even with them I still think they'll be hard pressed to make the Playoffs.

Florida and Tampa are easily the best two teams in the division. Ottawa's a wild care because they really don't have that bad of a roster and the Leafs and Sabres are both on their way up. I see Detroit, Montreal and Boston as teams on the decline.
- James_Tanner

yes we watched them last year James we know they (frank)ing suck, you're not going out on much of a limb there

It was heavily front-loaded. Flyers set it up that way in hopes of forcing the Preds hand at not matching the offer-sheet. At the time there were rumblings that Preds had cash flow issues. It was a heavy bonus-laden deal where the actual salaries drop off as the years go by. I'm assuming the numbers on the link are accurate.

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/shea-weber
- uf1910

pretty sure Holmer had fallen off the wagon when he cooked up that contract

If we stay healthy I can finally agree with you. FINALLY Tabarnak
(can't write French)
- Mr.FunFacts

I agree with this, and also, having the fortune of having Puj drop to #4 could have swayed their decision in making this move as well or given them more room to gamble on a valuable asset. He could/will be able to take over and put up the same numbers as Hall.
- Snots33_77

It's pretty optimistic to think anyone you draft is going to turn into a a top five 5v5 scorer. Taylor Hall has put together a career that is on track for the Hall of Fame. It's a terrible trade no matter how it's sliced.

And the D is more valuable than W argument is insane. You could argue that all things being equal you'd rather have a D over a W, but the idea that you'd trade an elite winger for an OK D just because of some whacked out notion of value is not making any sense to me.

it was a without-question complete (frank)ing catastrophe and set the Bruins back a decade. they have been (frank)ing terrible ever since, and they're still terrible.

PK trade may turn out as bad or worse but until it does we're going to laugh our balls off at you.
- DoubleDown

Also, I thought I read somewhere at the time that Weber's contract was front-end loaded and Nashville has already paid about 2/3's of it. It that true?
- Tonybere

It is. The first four years were absolutely LOADED. I forget the exact numbers, but he was getting something like $14mil per year those years.