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Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 14 @ 12:00 PM ET
I'm pretty sure he won't.............you know cuz of guys like Crosby and toews. he might get an A, but I can't imagine there is any chance he wears the C.

If they've already said he will and I missed it, then my apologies, but I'd be shocked.

- sensarmy_11


Who cares really?
Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 14 @ 12:01 PM ET
Agreed. We are treating the Habs brass like a bunch of incompetent morons that have zero business sense. If the reason to trade Subban was underwritten by Molson & Co, than the reason was a good one for the organization. Period. We got Weber only? Maybe because that's the best trade the market was offering up for PK? Maybe his value on the market is actually lower than we all think? Why didn't he make team Canada then? Why is Weber, that old worn out sock, a top D on the national team? Do we not see a correlation here?
- The Rocket


To be fair, only morons would trade Subban for Weber.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jul 14 @ 12:01 PM ET
Who cares really?
- Bruiniak


fair enough..........but it kind of seems like it was the central point of his argument.
Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 14 @ 12:02 PM ET
The Hall-Larsson trade pales in comparison to the trade Buffalo made to get Kane.
- bennythehat


WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jul 14 @ 12:03 PM ET
Please understand that half the problem with the world today is that people only speak at each other. Then, when someone says something they disagree with, they say they're 'just trolling.'

I don't do this for the money. I get more than enough people reading it and I certainly don't need to make up opinions just to get attention.

I wouldn't say it unless it wasn't what I thought, (unless I was joking, which, you should be able to tell the difference).

I come here and back up or explain everything I write, so at least credit me with having some integrity, even if you don't agree. I'm too good to troll.

Also, even if what you say is true, my belief, based on the information I have, is that they just want a bunch of yes men. Most NHL teams tend to use analytics only when they confirm what they already think.

- James_Tanner
Couldn't care about the first part of the message. You get the hits by trolling 99% of the time. That's fine. I still enjoy reading your blogs.

Bold part... it is true and no they don't want yes men... they want the best of the best. That's why they made the change. The info is out there. The fact that you chose to not consider it points at you doing another one of those fine troll jobs.


nikel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: las vegas, NV
Joined: 01.15.2013

Jul 14 @ 12:05 PM ET
Excellent. Now please tell me that the Oilers will NOT make the playoffs and the circle shall be complete.
- Wildschwein


NOT make the playoffs?

This is usually the time of year when James proclaims the Oil as Cup victors!
Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 14 @ 12:05 PM ET
To be fair, the last time he was playing it was pretty incredible.
- SolidGoldBricks


Do you remember the games? Do you remember the lineup? That was without a doubt the best hockey team in the history of hockey. Price was a non-factor. I was shocked that he was picked for this team. With the glut of Canadian talent, it really is a slap in the face to other goaltenders who've worked their asses off in the last year.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jul 14 @ 12:07 PM ET
Couldn't care about the first part of the message. You get the hits by trolling 99% of the time. That's fine. I still enjoy reading your blogs.

Bold part... it is true and no they don't want yes men... they want the best of the best. That's why they made the change. The info is out there. The fact that you chose to not consider it points at you doing another one of those fine troll jobs.

- WaterBoy



What have they done that makes you think they're interested in information provided by a guy hired to crunch the numbers?

You, and the people who reference Weber on Team Canada are all committing the logical fallacy of Appealing to the Experts.
SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Robidas Island, MI
Joined: 10.30.2013

Jul 14 @ 12:08 PM ET
Do you remember the games? Do you remember the lineup? That was without a doubt the best hockey team in the history of hockey. Price was a non-factor. I was shocked that he was picked for this team. With the glut of Canadian talent, it really is a slap in the face to other goaltenders who've worked their asses off in the last year.
- Bruiniak


I was more pointing to the games he played this past season, and the season he had the year before.

The bolded is why it probably doesn't matter who is in net.
The Rocket
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 10.06.2006

Jul 14 @ 12:10 PM ET
To be fair, only morons would trade Subban for Weber.
- Bruiniak


Thats being fair? Fair to who?
SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Robidas Island, MI
Joined: 10.30.2013

Jul 14 @ 12:13 PM ET
Thats being fair? Fair to who?
- The Rocket


PugsNotDrugs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Timbuk2
Joined: 07.11.2016

Jul 14 @ 12:13 PM ET
I can't think of a worse 1 for 1 trade than Hall for Larsen. Anybody else?
Jaciems
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 03.03.2011

Jul 14 @ 12:13 PM ET
I can't think of a worse 1 for 1 trade than Hall for Larsen. Anybody else?
- PugsNotDrugs

Rask for Raycroft off the top of my head...
SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Robidas Island, MI
Joined: 10.30.2013

Jul 14 @ 12:15 PM ET
Rask for Raycroft off the top of my head...
- Jaciems


You didn't HAVE to bring that up.
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Jul 14 @ 12:15 PM ET
Got to say not your usual stuff there in this last blog really... I don't really like the Edmonton trade, I think they should have gotten more so agree there. That said at least Edmonton is FINALLY addressing a need they have had for years now!

Montreal is a tough one. For the long term, yeah I don't like it for them but for the now and at least a couple more seasons I think it IS better. The team has had some off ice issues and really there seemed to be a lot going on behind the doors of the dressing room. I still don't think that PK is the biggest issue there, which to me is more the GM and Coach, but we will see what happens and IF the Owner there has both on a short leash after last season.

Las Vegas made a good call, I have to disagree with you. While I can appreciate being an expansion team, and yes they normally do suck, its not quite the same this time around as prior expansion teams. They will be in a position to compete more coming out of the gate. Having a more experienced guy to put it together and make trades out of the gate SHOULD allow them to get going in the right direction. Where I hope the team does break the old model is in being aggressive and coming in with a younger more in tune staff and even coach. Don't go to the well of past their prime coaches! I think McPhee should be able to get the franchise organized, pointed in the right direction, and build a solid base from the start though.

Anaheim is getting to a point of overhaul, and they wanted to lock up their younger players. I agree they've made a few... questionable moves trading and then walking away from guys hurting their depth some, BUT they have a good amount of young D and SHOULD be able to parlay assets to fill holes easy enough. I would say right now they are stuck in that middle of the road transition. Not good enough to take it all, but not bad enough to blow it up.

The one team I would say needs to sort their stuff out and has had a dissapointing offseason so far is Ottawa. They don't seem to really know what they want to do, and haven't really made a whole lot of moves to make themselves better. That said they haven't also gone and shot themselves in the foot with any bad moves, but status quo for them is definitely NOT good. Revamp or rebuild, they really need to figure it out and get to work on things there!
Snots33_77
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jul 14 @ 12:16 PM ET
Do you remember the games? Do you remember the lineup? That was without a doubt the best hockey team in the history of hockey. Price was a non-factor. I was shocked that he was picked for this team. With the glut of Canadian talent, it really is a slap in the face to other goaltenders who've worked their asses off in the last year.
- Bruiniak


I seem to recall that "The Best Team Ever" could only score 2 goals and Price had to limit the opposition to 1 goal against. Remember the 2-1 Latvia game? Probably not as you seem to pick and choose what you do and do not like. Just another butt-hurt Bruins fan hating on the Habs. How about we wait and see what pans out before you prophetically tell us - please don't spoil the ending of the 2016-17 season for us all. Go worry about your own poopty D and the 6 year deal for a old centre you didn't need.



Let me guess....you LOVED Subban all along too?? Like everyone else all of a sudden.....
Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 14 @ 12:17 PM ET
I can't think of a worse 1 for 1 trade than Hall for Larsen. Anybody else?
- PugsNotDrugs


It's Larsson not Larsen.

I assume that as a Leaf fan you only watch the Leafs. Larsson is exactly what the Oilers need. If you don't think this is a good trade, you probably haven't seen him play very often.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jul 14 @ 12:18 PM ET
Rask for Raycroft off the top of my head...
- Jaciems


That was fine at the time though.
SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Robidas Island, MI
Joined: 10.30.2013

Jul 14 @ 12:20 PM ET
That was fine at the time though.
- James_Tanner


On April 3, 2007, Raycroft tied the Leafs' franchise record for most wins by a goaltender in the regular season (37)
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jul 14 @ 12:20 PM ET
It's Larsson not Larsen.

I assume that as a Leaf fan you only watch the Leafs. Larsson is exactly what the Oilers need. If you don't think this is a good trade, you probably haven't seen him play very often.

- Bruiniak


just because he's what the oilers needed it doesn't make it not a terrible trade....in terms of value.
PugsNotDrugs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Timbuk2
Joined: 07.11.2016

Jul 14 @ 12:22 PM ET
It's Larsson not Larsen.

I assume that as a Leaf fan you only watch the Leafs. Larsson is exactly what the Oilers need. If you don't think this is a good trade, you probably haven't seen him play very often.

- Bruiniak

If you think this is a good trade you should pick another sport to watch.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Jul 14 @ 12:24 PM ET
Don't act like players getting crucified after being traded is a new thing that's suddenly become prevalent. Growing up in Calagary, pretty much everyone who was shipped out was shipped out because they were sleeping with the GM's wife.

Speaking of ex-Flames sleeping with the GM's wife, the Gilmour trade wasn't exactly 1 for 1 but it was for an equal number of players and blows the Hall trade out of the water.
Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jul 14 @ 12:26 PM ET
I seem to recall that "The Best Team Ever" could only score 2 goals and Price had to limit the opposition to 1 goal against. Remember the 2-1 Latvia game? Probably not as you seem to pick and choose what you do and do not like. Just another butt-hurt Bruins fan hating on the Habs. How about we wait and see what pans out before you prophetically tell us - please don't spoil the ending of the 2016-17 season for us all. Go worry about your own poopty D and the 6 year deal for a old centre you didn't need.



Let me guess....you LOVED Subban all along too?? Like everyone else all of a sudden.....

- Snots33_77


Subban was the only player off of your team I would have ever taken on the Bruins. Maybe Galchenyuk. Sergachev will be good soon. Subban is a rare talent. I'd put him in a category with Doughty, Karlsson, Ekman-Larsson and Hedman.

As I mentioned, Price has no bussness being in this tournament. After the season several Canadian goaltenders just had, it's embarrassing. It speaks a lot about his character that he accepted the invitation.
Sn1362
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.10.2014

Jul 14 @ 12:26 PM ET
just because he's what the oilers needed it doesn't make it not a terrible trade....in terms of value.
- sensarmy_11

But what is value? Sometimes getting rid of someone is a bigger value than keeping them.
The Rocket
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 10.06.2006

Jul 14 @ 12:28 PM ET
What have they done that makes you think they're interested in information provided by a guy hired to crunch the numbers?

You, and the people who reference Weber on Team Canada are all committing the logical fallacy of Appealing to the Experts.

- James_Tanner


Please explain WHAT ON EARTH is the "logical fallacy of Appealing to the Experts?" Weber was handpicked by competent hockey people to represent Canada along with Burns, Doughty, Keith, Vlasic and co...Of course we reference it! What am I missing here?



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