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weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 14 @ 10:47 AM ET
Gibson vs Andersen in Anaheim:

Gibson: 23 years old: 3 NHL seasons: 66 games - .920 2.22 (37-21-4)
Andersen: 26 years old: 3 NHL seasons: 125 games - .918 2.33 (77-26-12)

playoffs:

Andersen: 17-9 - .916 2.34
Gibson: 2-4 - .912 2.84

Andersen


- Lucas.Neilson




You're a guy who can clearly get by on his looks alone, but adding in the brains makes it unfair for the rest of us. But can you do one of these write ups but using Quick and Bernier? As if that trade just happened. How close were those 2? I'm jaded as (frank) obviously with the Leafs and their goalies. Granted it was Lou who traded for Bernier, still...I'm curious.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 14 @ 10:47 AM ET
Unpossible.
- walshyleafsfan


That's what nhl.com says.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 14 @ 10:47 AM ET
It's my ban dodger, implying we have some sort of secret friendship and it's not really an insult but a friendly tease.

50% of the time, it works everytime.

- Scabeh

Hopefully my flagging of the comment does the trick.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 14 @ 10:47 AM ET
It's my ban dodger, implying we have some sort of secret friendship and it's not really an insult but a friendly tease.

50% of the time, it works everytime.

- Scabeh


Well we don't..
WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

Jul 14 @ 10:47 AM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/cody-franson-mike-santorelli-traded-to-predators-from-maple-leafs-1.2958267



I guess the pick turned into Dermott and Bracco

- TheMussel


And Dzierkals

3 long shots that have upside. I'm OK with it
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 14 @ 10:48 AM ET
Sobotka was pretty good in both leagues..

I DONT KNOW LET ME DREAM DAMMIT!!!

- Tanooki

At least there's really no risk here for the Leafs. If he's really good then perfect. If not.. meh. Only cost them money, no big deal.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 14 @ 10:48 AM ET
Well we don't..
- bixll


I never said it had to be real.
Tanooki
Location: Professional propagandist, Val D’or
Joined: 06.28.2016

Jul 14 @ 10:48 AM ET
I do?

Pretty sure I'm trying my best to be objective.

I'll try harder.

- Scabeh

i dont mind you at all..

you're kind alike how i am in other threads, but when i do it they all flag me immediately and the ban symbol get shone up in the night sky above Dozzer and Leafman 1 bedroom apartments..
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Jul 14 @ 10:48 AM ET
It's my ban dodger, implying we have some sort of secret friendship and it's not really an insult but a friendly tease.

50% of the time, it works everytime.

- Scabeh


Which Rougeau brother are you?
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 14 @ 10:49 AM ET
You're a guy who can clearly get by on his looks alone, but adding in the brains makes it unfair for the rest of us. But can you do one of these write ups but using Quick and Bernier? As if that trade just happened. How close were those 2? I'm jaded as (frank) obviously with the Leafs and their goalies. Granted it was Lou who traded for Bernier, still...I'm curious.
- weirdoh

Bernier barely played at all. That's the main difference. He was even more unproven.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 14 @ 10:49 AM ET
I like Lou and all. He's a fantastic GM. But he needs to get with the times and not let stubbornness steer his job. It's 2016 Lou not 1999
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jul 14 @ 10:50 AM ET
I never said it had to be real.
- Scabeh



CAn't even fake it.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 14 @ 10:50 AM ET
i dont mind you at all..

you're kind alike how i am in other threads, but when i do it they all flag me immediately and the ban symbol get shone up in the night sky above Dozzer and Leafman 1 bedroom apartments..

- Tanooki


Thanks brah. I'm actually hanging around here because it talks way more about hockey than anywhere else.

Dozzer and I get along, he knows I mean no harm.
WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

Jul 14 @ 10:50 AM ET
Gibson vs Andersen in Anaheim:

Gibson: 23 years old: 3 NHL seasons: 66 games - .920 2.22 (37-21-4)
Andersen: 26 years old: 3 NHL seasons: 125 games - .918 2.33 (77-26-12)

playoffs:

Andersen: 17-9 - .916 2.34
Gibson: 2-4 - .912 2.84

Andersen


- Lucas.Neilson



That's what I don't understand. Why do people always talk about him being a backup? He was clearly their starter

They had to make a choice and went with the younger option. He's not a cast-off.

Bernier was a backup when he was signed, and continued to play as such. Andersen has been the guy before
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 14 @ 10:51 AM ET
I like Lou and all. He's a fantastic GM. But he needs to get with the times and not let stubbornness steer his job. It's 2016 Lou not 1999
- Santo_44

Dubas is getting him signed up for pokemon as we speak
WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

Jul 14 @ 10:51 AM ET
I like Lou and all. He's a fantastic GM. But he needs to get with the times and not let stubbornness steer his job. It's 2016 Lou not 1999
- Santo_44


There is zero basis in fact for the line of thinking that Lou's "stubbornness" is what is holding up the Matthews contract.

Speculation and the desperate need for a story in mid-July is all it is
Tanooki
Location: Professional propagandist, Val D’or
Joined: 06.28.2016

Jul 14 @ 10:52 AM ET
I like Lou and all. He's a fantastic GM. But he needs to get with the times and not let stubbornness steer his job. It's 2016 Lou not 1999
- Santo_44

If i were Matthews i wouldnt budge..

He owes nothing to the Leafs yet.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 14 @ 10:53 AM ET
There is zero basis in fact for the line of thinking that Lou's "stubbornness" is what is holding up the Matthews contract.

Speculation and the desperate need for a story in mid-July is all it is

- WingmanWillie

It's widely speculated. And I believe it. Some of his rules are just really unnecessary. It's pretty simple. Give him max everything he's the number 1 pick that's what they get
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jul 14 @ 10:53 AM ET
That's what I don't understand. Why do people always talk about him being a backup? He was clearly their starter

They had to make a choice and went with the younger option. He's not a cast-off.

Bernier was a backup when he was signed, and continued to play as such. Andersen has been the guy before

- WingmanWillie


The most games he played in one season is 54, two years ago. I guess at that point you could say he was "the guy" at that point for the Ducks.

Last year he started a little less games (43) and was working more of a tandem with Gibson.

This being said, I never saw him as a backup at all.
Tanooki
Location: Professional propagandist, Val D’or
Joined: 06.28.2016

Jul 14 @ 10:53 AM ET
There is zero basis in fact for the line of thinking that Lou's "stubbornness" is what is holding up the Matthews contract.

Speculation and the desperate need for a story in mid-July is all it is

- WingmanWillie

Nah,

Lou is being Lou..

He is very oldschool.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 14 @ 10:54 AM ET
Bernier barely played at all. That's the main difference. He was even more unproven.
- daeth



More unproven then who? Andersen? (frank) it. Like I said, just pretty jaded.
WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

Jul 14 @ 10:55 AM ET
It's widely speculated. And I believe it. Some of his rules are just really unnecessary. It's pretty simple. Give him max everything he's the number 1 pick that's what they get
- Santo_44


Bet you Edmonton loves that they gave Yakupov max everything. Hey, whatever, he's a number 1 pick. They get whatever they want.

Come on.

The media wants to rile up the fan base and it's clearly working with some of you.

Come October when Matthews suits up, we'll all be wondering why the hell we bothered.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jul 14 @ 10:55 AM ET
If i were Matthews i wouldnt budge..

He owes nothing to the Leafs yet.

- Tanooki


I'm on Mathews side 100 percent. I read an article that Lou got mad that Liepsic got a one on one interview on hockey night in Canada. He doesn't think rookies deserve the spotlight.

It's a a league where a 19 year old can come in and be a top 10 player in the league now.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 14 @ 10:56 AM ET
If i were Matthews i wouldnt budge..

He owes nothing to the Leafs yet.

- Tanooki

I'd ask for a trade and refuse to report like Chad Kilger
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Jul 14 @ 10:56 AM ET
The most games he played in one season is 54, two years ago. I guess at that point you could say he was "the guy" at that point for the Ducks.

Last year he started a little less games (43) and was working more of a tandem with Gibson.

This being said, I never saw him as a backup at all.

- Scabeh


started another 16 (w11-L5) that year in the playoffs. 70 games started is decent
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