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cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 14 @ 4:44 PM ET
I live in Albany...gotta stock up while I can
- feetontheair22





Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 14 @ 5:09 PM ET
Omg what movie
- GERBE!!!75PTS


So, did you sh!t yourself this morning?

Has probably been posted, but dumb Johnathan Williams went and got a DWI last night.

Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 14 @ 5:13 PM ET
Yet he has so far.... Again, he had a back issue which limited his minutes, yet still produced per 60 as a bona fide top 6'er.

I get the injury/age argument. But the risk vs. reward could be beneficial.

For every Hawerchuk, there are Patrick Sharp's, Iginla, Hossa, Marleau, etc who can score 20+ into their 30's

- sbroads24


But weren't you the first one on the pace/projection didn't matter with Kane? You were all about the bottom line.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 14 @ 5:27 PM ET
I hate Eichel on the point

I wish they would let him set up shop like stamkos and ovechkin do, and just rip it. I feel like putting him way back at the point neutralizes that vicious shot.

- Deuce81



They do. It's usually one guy down low in front of the net, then three across at the dots and one point guy. With some rotation. Eichel slides up and down the zone from the dot to the blue line on the left side, and he and Risto sometimes switch places. It's a very fluid thing. Eichel doesn't stay on the point very much.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 14 @ 5:54 PM ET
So I just get back home and I find out we signed Marcus ...

My prediction is he will not start the season with the Sabres
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jul 14 @ 5:55 PM ET



- cabin


Haha nice....Cicero Mighty!
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 14 @ 5:56 PM ET
So, did you sh!t yourself this morning?

Has probably been posted, but dumb Johnathan Williams went and got a DWI last night.

- Wetbandit1


It was honestly not a good night or morning I could not explain the pain my stomach hurt so much then when it finally came out

The very hot sauce I put on it did not get digested I'm pretty sure lol
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 14 @ 6:02 PM ET
It was honestly not a good night or morning I could not explain the pain my stomach hurt so much then when it finally came out

The very hot sauce I put on it did not get digested I'm pretty sure lol

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

It's like anything else. If you're not used to eating something and you eat a lot of said thing, it's probably not going to agree with you. The first time I had the cajun chicken pasta at Tully's I barely made it home. It was so good, but I paid mightily for it. Now I get it every couple months and it doesn't really affect me.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 14 @ 6:06 PM ET
Just watched Haggerty's interview with Vesey. First of all the guy is a grade A Boston moron. Seems convinced Vesey is signing there from interview based on stock answers to his questions.

Second of all I just don't get at all why Murray won't just waive the August 15th rights and let all other teams talk to him now. Is it against the rules for the Sabres to allow him to do this? If not, why not just give him the right now so you can know what you need to do while the few semi decent FA forwards remain or trade options remain. It just makes too much sense to me to allow him to talk now so if he decides he's signing elsewhere he can let Buffalo know and Murray can just move forward...
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jul 14 @ 6:06 PM ET
So I just get back home and I find out we signed Marcus ...

My prediction is he will not start the season with the Sabres

- GERBE!!!75PTS


He signed a one year deal. Why wouldn't he? Our best bet in getting Fowler, Nash etc. right now lies in Girgensons not signing his contract.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 14 @ 6:10 PM ET
But weren't you the first one on the pace/projection didn't matter with Kane? You were all about the bottom line.
- Wetbandit1

Not at all. That's my issue with Kane, his bottom line, and per 60 were bad.

He played 20 min a night for gods sake. Look at other forwards with similar minutes, they double his production in some cases
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 14 @ 6:15 PM ET
So the leafs are still not giving Matthews a contract bonus


Are they running a circus what the hell
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 14 @ 6:16 PM ET
But weren't you the first one on the pace/projection didn't matter with Kane? You were all about the bottom line.
- Wetbandit1

Sorted by forwards with over 30 games played, this is where some Sabres and Nash ranked in P/60 (even strength)

Rick Nash -63rd
Kyle Okposo - 78th
Ryan O'Reilly- 118th
Evander Kane -204th

The notion his season was horrendous is just plain false

bflbilsfan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Mesa, AZ
Joined: 08.14.2010

Jul 14 @ 6:23 PM ET
Just watched Haggerty's interview with Vesey. First of all the guy is a grade A Boston moron. Seems convinced Vesey is signing there from interview based on stock answers to his questions.

Second of all I just don't get at all why Murray won't just waive the August 15th rights and let all other teams talk to him now. Is it against the rules for the Sabres to allow him to do this? If not, why not just give him the right now so you can know what you need to do while the few semi decent FA forwards remain or trade options remain. It just makes too much sense to me to allow him to talk now so if he decides he's signing elsewhere he can let Buffalo know and Murray can just move forward...

- bluengold12

totally agree
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 14 @ 6:31 PM ET
It was honestly not a good night or morning I could not explain the pain my stomach hurt so much then when it finally came out

The very hot sauce I put on it did not get digested I'm pretty sure lol

- GERBE!!!75PTS


So the tofu stuff did end up giving you problems or was it another meal?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 14 @ 6:41 PM ET
So the tofu stuff did end up giving you problems or was it another meal?
- seedy



Other than that the only thing I had for dinner was 4 peanut butter fluff sandwiches With honey roasted peanuts inside each

But that's normal I usually have That every other night
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 14 @ 6:50 PM ET
Not at all. That's my issue with Kane, his bottom line, and per 60 were bad.

He played 20 min a night for gods sake. Look at other forwards with similar minutes, they double his production in some cases

- sbroads24


I was talking about just his goal total when he was on a good pace, but he missed time. I think you put way too much stock into per 60. It doesn't work too well with players that play a ton of minutes, or play very few minutes.

Edit: Who said Nash had a horrendous season? I've said he had a down year, he's on the wrong side of 30 which means he's probably not getting better, and he has a back problem that they thought was a leg problem for months, those generally don't get better. I've had a similar deal for the last 10 years, and it's only gotten worse.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 14 @ 6:57 PM ET
Other than that the only thing I had for dinner was 4 peanut butter fluff sandwiches With honey roasted peanuts inside each

But that's normal I usually have That every other night

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Wow. sorry to hear that.

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 14 @ 6:59 PM ET
I was talking about just his goal total when he was on a good pace, but he missed time. I think you put way too much stock into per 60. It doesn't work too well with players that play a ton of minutes, or play very few minutes.

Edit: Who said Nash had a horrendous season? I've said he had a down year, he's on the wrong side of 30 which means he's probably not getting better, and he has a back problem that they thought was a leg problem for months, those generally don't get better. I've had a similar deal for the last 10 years, and it's only gotten worse.

- Wetbandit1

It was a discussion earlier. Not you.

I don't put a ton of stock into it, but it helps explain some good/bad seasons for some players.
PugsNotDrugs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Timbuk2
Joined: 07.11.2016

Jul 14 @ 7:11 PM ET
So the leafs are still not giving Matthews a contract bonus


Are they running a circus what the hell

- GERBE!!!75PTS

Lou gave Marner bonuses last year so don't be silly. Just waiting for the right time to announce it.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 14 @ 7:16 PM ET
So all my guy Friends are refusing to see ghostbusters ..

Looks like I'll be the only guy with six girls at a movie theater









GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 14 @ 7:18 PM ET
Lou gave Marner bonuses last year so don't be silly. Just waiting for the right time to announce it.
- PugsNotDrugs



Waiting for the right time that makes no sense what are they waiting for
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jul 14 @ 7:25 PM ET
So all my guy Friends are refusing to see ghostbusters ..

Looks like I'll be the only guy with six girls at a movie theater


- GERBE!!!75PTS



#friendzone #thatgayfriend
PugsNotDrugs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Timbuk2
Joined: 07.11.2016

Jul 14 @ 7:27 PM ET
Waiting for the right time that makes no sense what are they waiting for
- GERBE!!!75PTS

What's the rush? The oilers just signed the fin yesterday and not a word said about it. But it's the leafs so the sky must be falling. Don't ever listen to the Toronto media because they're trying to create a story where there isn't one. They will most likely have a press conference with Auston wearing the new sweater and the number 34 on it and hope they can keep up with the demand for it.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 14 @ 7:39 PM ET
What's the rush? The oilers just signed the fin yesterday and not a word said about it. But it's the leafs so the sky must be falling. Don't ever listen to the Toronto media because they're trying to create a story where there isn't one. They will most likely have a press conference with Auston wearing the new sweater and the number 34 on it and hope they can keep up with the demand for it.
- PugsNotDrugs


You are spining this hard like my brother

The point of all this is you guys are not giving him the bonus when it's really not that hard what is the big deal
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