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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 13 @ 11:21 AM ET
Who had more hype as a prospect Giroux or Konecny?
- johm12


Well Konecnys name was pronounced correctly when drafted
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 13 @ 11:22 AM ET
Seriously. Provy will be on the team next year -- get with the program. What we should be debating is whether or not Salinitri makes the team out of camp.
- Mononoke


I would like to discuss the Black Aces
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 13 @ 11:24 AM ET
I would like to discuss the Black Aces
- YuenglingJagr


But who ARE they?!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 13 @ 11:25 AM ET
But who ARE they?!
- Mononoke

brb
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jul 13 @ 11:30 AM ET
Who had more hype as a prospect Giroux or Konecny?
- johm12


Well, because the Flyers went off the board a bit choosing G, so much so that Clarke couldn't get his name right at the podium, I'd say early on, Konecny had the jump on hype.

Afterwards, 50/50.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 11:37 AM ET
Every prospect is different. Provorov is unique in that he has the nhl body at 19. He seemingly has a great head on his shoulders. He would have to completely bomb in camp and the preseason for him to not get that 9 game or whatever it is look see. His chances are very good because he is coming off a spectacular year in which he also stayed healthy. This is no 2007 165lb giroux
- Just5



In my opinion, I don't see Hextall using the 9 game tryout but I could be wrong. Provorov either makes the team outright in camp, or he goes back to Juniors. Using the 9 game tryout, means that you're not sure about a player's readiness for the NHL. If we listen to everything Hextall has said, any doubts in camp, means Provorov goes back to Juniors.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 13 @ 11:39 AM ET
In my opinion, I don't see Hextall using the 9 game tryout but I could be wrong. Provorov either makes the team outright in camp, or he goes back to Juniors. Using the 9 game tryout, means that you're not sure about a player's readiness for the NHL. If we listen to everything Hextall has said, any doubts in camp, means Provorov goes back to Juniors.
- MJL


I dont think they use the 9 game tryout on anyone either...but one small caveat is the Schenn suspension
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 11:40 AM ET
There are 5 competent defensemen under contract this year (Streit, MDZ, Gudas, Schultz, Ghost) along with AMac and Manning. Nothing Hextall has shown, to date, should lead anyone to believe that Provorov will be starting on the Flyers this upcoming season unless he shines at camp. It's that simple. People should temper expectations if they think he's a lock.
- steelydan



I would say that's 7 competent NHL defenseman, but that's neither here nor there. Competence is not a high bench mark. Hextall has said, if a young player proves he belongs on the team, he will make the moves necessary to keep the player. I get what you're saying, but I think if Provorov forces Hextall to keep him, moves will be made.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 13 @ 11:40 AM ET
In my opinion, I don't see Hextall using the 9 game tryout but I could be wrong. Provorov either makes the team outright in camp, or he goes back to Juniors. Using the 9 game tryout, means that you're not sure about a player's readiness for the NHL. If we listen to everything Hextall has said, any doubts in camp, means Provorov goes back to Juniors.
- MJL


Hextall has said that he doesn't like the 9-game tryout because he'd rather the player start playing with the team he'll be with all season. Naturally, if Provorov makes the team out of camp and struggles, they have the 9-game period to send him back, but Hextall doesn't seem to view it as a tryout tool.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 13 @ 11:40 AM ET
I dont think they use the 9 game tryout on anyone either...but one small caveat is the Schenn suspension
- YuenglingJagr



That gives the Flyers a roster spot for 3 games, but they may have to use that for a forward.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jul 13 @ 11:43 AM ET
That gives the Flyers a roster spot for 3 games, but they may have to use that for a forward.
- MJL

wasnt really suggesting it gets used for Provorov...i think if anything just an AHL call up, but it could be useful
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 13 @ 11:44 AM ET
I would say that's 7 competent NHL defenseman, but that's neither here nor there. Competence is not a high bench mark. Hextall has said, if a young player proves he belongs on the team, he will make the moves necessary to keep the player. I get what you're saying, but I think if Provorov forces Hextall to keep him, moves will be made.
- MJL


i.e. AMac driving up 476
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 13 @ 11:49 AM ET
That Simmonds car story should be more well known. Incredible.

Not once have I heard Regis talk about that... it's something that deserves a Players Tribune article.

This Russian kid sounds like a good depth signing. Love me some Hextall.

- Giroux_Is_God

I've been meaning to ask this for a while

who is Regis?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 13 @ 11:53 AM ET
I've been meaning to ask this for a while

who is Regis?

- Crimsoninja


He is that guy who wants to know if it's your final answer.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 13 @ 11:54 AM ET
I've been meaning to ask this for a while

who is Regis?

- Crimsoninja

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_McGuire
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 13 @ 11:54 AM ET
I've been meaning to ask this for a while

who is Regis?

- Crimsoninja


I thought he was talking about Regis Philbin, like they haven't talked about it on The Regis and Kelly show back then
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 13 @ 11:55 AM ET
I've been meaning to ask this for a while

who is Regis?

- Crimsoninja


I believe Pierre McGuire
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 13 @ 11:56 AM ET
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_McGuire
- Mononoke


Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 13 @ 11:56 AM ET
In my opinion, I don't see Hextall using the 9 game tryout but I could be wrong. Provorov either makes the team outright in camp, or he goes back to Juniors. Using the 9 game tryout, means that you're not sure about a player's readiness for the NHL. If we listen to everything Hextall has said, any doubts in camp, means Provorov goes back to Juniors.
- MJL


Hextall is not at all a proponent of the nine-game trial or "easing" a player into the lineup. Said so in some detail last July. In his view, they guy is either ready or he's in junior (or AHL).
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 13 @ 11:59 AM ET
Hextall is not at all a proponent of the nine-game trial or "easing" a player into the lineup. Said so in some detail last July. In his view, they guy is either ready or he's in junior (or AHL).
- bmeltzer


or KHL :D
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jul 13 @ 11:59 AM ET
I've been meaning to ask this for a while

who is Regis?

- Crimsoninja


you had to ask?
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 13 @ 11:59 AM ET
or KHL :D
- YuenglingJagr


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 13 @ 12:10 PM ET
Hextall is not at all a proponent of the nine-game trial or "easing" a player into the lineup. Said so in some detail last July. In his view, they guy is either ready or he's in junior (or AHL).
- bmeltzer


I wonder if Schenn's suspension plays a role in Hextall using the 9 game window to start the season.

I doubt it results in a 9 game look for anyone in aprticular, but maybe Schenn being out could see a guy like Weal or Miele stick to start the season, then get waived and sent down
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 13 @ 12:34 PM ET
I wonder if Schenn's suspension plays a role in Hextall using the 9 game window to start the season.

I doubt it results in a 9 game look for anyone in aprticular, but maybe Schenn being out could see a guy like Weal or Miele stick to start the season, then get waived and sent down

- Jsaquella


+1 I don't think you see a konecky Trial but could see a guy whose 12th 13th man or top 6 ahl getting a shot
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jul 13 @ 12:39 PM ET
+1 I don't think you see a konecky Trial but could see a guy whose 12th 13th man or top 6 ahl getting a shot
- Tfaehner


....Konecky wouldn't have to go through waivers to be sent back...we may have to risk a Weal, Miele or someone else if they got the call up. Still don't think Hexy does it but it saves the risky waive.
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