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weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 12 @ 7:36 PM ET
Agreed. Robidas island for all of them. Except for Laich, I like the attitude of that particular greybeard.
- leafsfann



Have to have Laich playing.
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Jul 12 @ 7:47 PM ET
Bower.

Sorry my reply function doesn't work.

What's changed? Other than Nylander who isn't ready for 1st line even strength duty who's taking Komorov's icetime? Nylander may take his PP time & if not him then Matthews but Komorov should still get at least 2nd line duty.

With all the other prospects currently in the system far closer to being NHL ready does Marner Toronto's future #1 RW get anything more than his 9 game cup of coffee? Might this just become a business decision as opposed to hockey decision. Would be nice to slide his ELC for yet another year.

LifeLongLeafer
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: awesomeness (On) Off, ON
Joined: 07.02.2014

Jul 12 @ 7:51 PM ET
@ LifeLongLeafer

It's 950K per player, not in total.

- BetterCallSaul



Damn it...1st point stands
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jul 12 @ 7:56 PM ET
boner
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Jul 12 @ 7:58 PM ET
justmike

Robidas has a degenerative leg injury. The NHL isn't allowing any team to fictitiously bury a player with out legitimate injury on LTIR. Nor is the players agent nor the NHLPA.

So no burying Lupul if fit to play. He had abdominal surgery. That isn't career threatening he baring another injury before camp during camp or later which the odds favor well no Robidas Island for anyone.
Bower
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Jul 12 @ 8:00 PM ET
Oh Dozzer,just wondering about Sabre fans?They been awful mouthy lately about Canadians not making the playoffs,Has Matthews asked for a trade yet,so on and so on.My question is Can i ask them about raping women,abusing women,Drunk driving Sabre players,etc, and not get a ban?

What about broken windows?

- nbboy


No windows in Buffalo
Bower
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Jul 12 @ 8:00 PM ET
Oh Dozzer,just wondering about Sabre fans?They been awful mouthy lately about Canadians not making the playoffs,Has Matthews asked for a trade yet,so on and so on.My question is Can i ask them about raping women,abusing women,Drunk driving Sabre players,etc, and not get a ban?

What about broken windows?

- nbboy


No windows in Buffalo
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 12 @ 8:05 PM ET
No windows in Buffalo
- Bower



This is legit
Bower
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Jul 12 @ 8:05 PM ET
Bower.

Sorry my reply function doesn't work.

What's changed? Other than Nylander who isn't ready for 1st line even strength duty who's taking Komorov's icetime? Nylander may take his PP time & if not him then Matthews but Komorov should still get at least 2nd line duty.

With all the other prospects currently in the system far closer to being NHL ready does Marner Toronto's future #1 RW get anything more than his 9 game cup of coffee? Might this just become a business decision as opposed to hockey decision. Would be nice to slide his ELC for yet another year.

- striker777


I'm just not sold on Komarov having the talent for 2nd line, let alone 1st line. Also, Kadri is not a 1st line centre. They pretty much got that by default last season.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jul 12 @ 8:07 PM ET
Did Komorov not play RW with JVR & Bozak last season forming Toronto's #1 line when all were healthy? Was it not a great line? Why would Babcock alter that mix?

Michalek has played LW his entire time in Ottawa.

This is what I have today but were a long way from opening day & changes are coming.

JVR, Bozak, Komorov.
Michalek, Kadri, Nylander.
Greening, Matthews, Lupul.
Martin, Laich, Holland.
Spare. Froese.

...

- striker777


Of all the line ups I've posted....your's is probably more close to realistic without more moves.

Your lineup is going to suck though but with a couple of tweaks it could be much better.

Lupul in:

Lupul, Kadri, Komarov
JVR, Bozak, Marner.
Greening, Matthews, Nylander
Michalek, Laich, Martin

The bolded guys are the players that will definitely be paired together IMO. All others will move subject to injury. trades and/or quality of play.

Babcock said Matthews on the 3rd line and Nylander on his wing so have to put them together.

Bozak and JVR have always been paired together. Same with Kadri and Komarov.



Lupul out, Michalek out and my preferred line up:

Komarov, Kadri, Marner
JVR, Matthews, Nylander
Hyman/Sosh, Bozak, Brown
Greening, Laich, Martin


All the other wingers are interchaneable. Marner with Matthews, Nylander with Bozak. Rychel with Matthews and Marner. Hyman with Matthews and Marner.
Bower
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Jul 12 @ 8:11 PM ET
Stop drinking the Koma-Koolaid, he's a 3rd liner.
Mandree85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Jul 12 @ 8:13 PM ET
jvr - bozak -nylander
soshnikov - kadri - komarov
Martin - matthews - Marner
hyman - laich - brown

Reily - hunwick
Zaitsev - gardiner
marincen - carrick

Andersen
sparks


striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Jul 12 @ 8:14 PM ET
Bower.

Agreed but again what's changed? Is Toronto not in essentially the same place as last season just starting the year breaking in 2 of their stud rookies in Matthews & Nylander as opposed to short term signings last season like Parenteau, Matthias, Boyes, Spalling, etc.

Babcock has already said Matthews starts as the #3 C, Nylander is slated for a role at RW for a few years. Kadri played as Toronto's #2/3 C last season although had the most TOI/GP of any forward & I assume #2 this season baring a trade of Bozak.

Komorov & Bozak are still guaranteed quality icetime until traded; Boazk or players are ready to take Komorov's role.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 12 @ 8:18 PM ET
Stop drinking the Koma-Koolaid, he's a 3rd liner.
- Bower


I'll drink what I want. Call him what I want. Bang any of your family members I want. And poop where I want. Don't tell me what to do.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 12 @ 8:21 PM ET
I'll drink what I want. Call him what I want. Bang any of your family members I want. And poop where I want. Don't tell me what to do.
- systemtool




Don't change the fact that he's a 3rd liner.
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Jul 12 @ 8:21 PM ET
underhill14

The chances of Babcock pairing 2 rookies together in Matthews & Nylander is highly unlikely. That would be a disaster defensively. That sounds like the EDM's model to me. He will want to shelter both.

Komorov played with Bozak & JVR until injuries forced the change.

Michalek isn't a checker nor are you factoring in the fact players need to be waived & or demoted if waiver eligible & if not claimed, the salary implications of such.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 12 @ 8:22 PM ET
Don't change the fact that he's a 3rd liner.
- weirdoh


Maybe. But that's only because I haven't called him anything else. Yet. Like you wearin a Cobra commander pic doesn't make you anything other than Baroness. Unless I say so.
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Jul 12 @ 8:23 PM ET
Bower.

I agreed with you. I'm not saying he isn't but who plays ahead of him at RW other than possibly Nylander? Toronto has no 1 else currently other than Marner & I'm not certain he see's more than 9 games. Is Toronto going to dress 2 rookies as their top 2 RW's? This isn't Edm.
j0e Th0rnton
San Jose Sharks
Location: Halifax, NS
Joined: 01.01.2008

Jul 12 @ 8:25 PM ET
You do not have a veteran forward that would enable you to get Trouba.
- bennythehat

Ummmm. Why would the Jets even let Trouba go? They have more than enough forwards.

Ehlers/Scheifele/Wheeler
Laine/Little/perreault
Connor/Burmistrov/Stafford
Mathias/Lowry/Armia

And if Laine and Connor are not NHL ready, they still have Thorburn, Dano and a few others.

Quite frankly, the jets are stuffed with Forwards, and Wheeler + Little + Stafford are vets. Scheifele is a budding superstar, as is Ehlers. They were on fire to end the season.

Trouba - Buff
Enstrom - Myers
Stuart - Postma
Chairot

Why would they let Trouba go? Makes ZERO sense

In goal, Pavelec, budding superstar Hellebuyck and AHL Hutchinson, along with Blue chip goalie Prospect Eric Comrie.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jul 12 @ 8:26 PM ET
Maybe. But that's only because I haven't called him anything else. Yet. Like you wearin a Cobra commander pic doesn't make you anything other than Baroness. Unless I say so.
- systemtool



That was pretty lame, it's like if I said you're Al, but really you're not....just don't get that comment. But...if I was Baroness, I would probably masturbate more than I do now with so many objects...1stly, cob of corn.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jul 12 @ 8:27 PM ET
That was pretty lame, it's like if I said you're Al, but really you're not....just don't get that comment. But...if I was Baroness, I would probably masturbate more than I do now with so many objects...1stly, cob of corn.
- weirdoh

Major Bludd's prosthetic ?
striker777
Joined: 09.08.2012

Jul 12 @ 8:28 PM ET
Mandree85

How does Toronto make that work this year, factoring in players waiver rights & salary implications of such. Can't be done as the players you left off aren't getting claimed & only provide 900K in cap relief each.

Your roster has some merit 3 years from now but not pretending we live on fanatsy island what do you see today?

You have just condoned the Edm model.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 12 @ 8:29 PM ET
underhill14

The chances of Babcock pairing 2 rookies together in Matthews & Nylander is highly unlikely. That would be a disaster defensively. That sounds like the EDM's model to me. He will want to shelter both.

Komorov played with Bozak & JVR until injuries forced the change.

Michalek isn't a checker nor are you factoring in the fact players need to be waived & or demoted if waiver eligible & if not claimed, the salary implications of such.

- striker777


Babcock did say he's starting Nylander on Matthews RW to start camp. Camp is going to be shorter for a lot of guys with the Worlds. So there is a chance. I could see them paired with a vet on the "third line" playing fairly protected minutes to start the year.

Komarov-Kadri-Somebody
JVR - Bozak- Somebody
Michalek-Matthews-Nylander
Martin-Laich-Somebody

Then by the end of the year ..

JVR-Matthews-Nylander
Komarov-Kadri-Marner
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jul 12 @ 8:31 PM ET
"Toronto currently has nine forward slots accounted for; Matthews, Nazem Kadri, Tyler Bozak and Laich up the middle, James van Riemsdyk, Leo Komarov and free agent signing Matt Martin on the left side, and Nylander and Michalek on right wing. "

I don't get it Mike. With 3 months until the season starts why are you so confident Bozak, Laich, Komarov, JVR or Michalek will even be on the team?
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Jul 12 @ 8:32 PM ET
That was pretty lame, it's like if I said you're Al, but really you're not....just don't get that comment. But...if I was Baroness, I would probably masturbate more than I do now with so many objects...1stly, cob of corn.
- weirdoh


Now you're just acting like Chuckles.
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