What we need to have a competent Powerplay isn't on the roster
- TPC

Exactly, you have to work with what they got.

We could all assume Skjei & McDonagh should be out there. Both are very good puck handling defenseman with offensive tendencies.

So then you need a rocket to complement them. That leaves Klein & McIlrath because not one forward on the Rangers has a slap shot.

Exactly, you have to work with what they got.

We could all assume Skjei & McDonagh should be out there. Both are very good puck handling defenseman with offensive tendencies.

So then you need a rocket to complement them. That leaves Klein & McIlrath because not one forward on the Rangers has a slap shot.
- mdw7413

Surpsingly, Fast is the only player I can recall who sets up in the slot for one timers in the past couple seasons

Surpsingly, Fast is the only player I can recall who sets up in the slot for one timers in the past couple seasons
- rangerdanger94

And Brassard occasionally on the PP. Its why I wish Brass & Zuke could switch positions. Brassard plays like a winger and Zuke plays like a center.

Exactly, you have to work with what they got.

We could all assume Skjei & McDonagh should be out there. Both are very good puck handling defenseman with offensive tendencies.

So then you need a rocket to complement them. That leaves Klein & McIlrath because not one forward on the Rangers has a slap shot.
- mdw7413

This is part of why I thought Schultz would have been a decent risk to take, as he would have improved the PP. Holden will likely get PP time if he is in the top-six

This is part of why I thought Schultz would have been a decent risk to take, as he would have improved the PP. Holden will likely get PP time if he is in the top-six
- airjan23

Jeez, let's throw 4.5M at Miller long term, 5M at Kreider long term, 2M at Schultz for a year.

Where are we getting all this cap space from guys?

And Brassard occasionally on the PP. Its why I wish Brass & Zuke could switch positions. Brassard plays like a winger and Zuke plays like a center.
- mdw7413

I am not positive on what you guys did last year/ what you would do this year. But theoretically, if you did 4 F and 1 D on pp, i think i would do Stepan at the point on one and brass on the other. Step is a greta passer and vision, and brass is too but he also has a really good shot he doesnt use enough.

Jeez, let's throw 4.5M at Miller long term, 5M at Kreider long term, 2M at Schultz for a year.

Where are we getting all this cap space from guys?
- rangerdanger94

They have 12 mil in cap room. It all depends on direction they go, as to 1-2 years deals or long term ones. Trust me, know very well the cap constraints they are in. Would you rather Holden at $1.6 mil or Schultz at around same amount, presuming he was attainable there?

They have 12 mil in cap room. It all depends on direction they go, as to 1-2 years deals or long term ones. Trust me, know very well the cap constraints they are in. Would you rather Holden at $1.6 mil or Schultz at around same amount, presuming he was attainable there?
- airjan23

I can't answer that question too well because I truthfully haven't watched Holden much. And when I do what Avs games, he's not exactly the player I would focus on.

Judging by the minutes he's played, his size, and his experience, he seems to be a solid NHL defenseman. Pretty much a cheaper version of Klein.

Justin Schultz is a heaping pile of dogpoop. I know that much.

So I guess Holden, but I'm no scout.

I am not positive on what you guys did last year/ what you would do this year. But theoretically, if you did 4 F and 1 D on pp, i think i would do Stepan at the point on one and brass on the other. Step is a greta passer and vision, and brass is too but he also has a really good shot he doesnt use enough.
- TwoPumpChump91

I would still rather have Brass down low(has a great shot he doesn't use enough). If I do two forwards on the PP who have the best vision, would have to be two of these three- Zuke, Stepan, Hayes

I would still rather have Brass down low(has a great shot he doesn't use enough). If I do two forwards on the PP who have the best vision, would have to be two of these three- Zuke, Stepan, Hayes
- mdw7413

- rangerdanger94

You seriously are going to argue he doesn't have great vision??

Would be like me arguing Kreider isn't physically fit because he doesn't use it enough.

I would still rather have Brass down low(has a great shot he doesn't use enough). If I do two forwards on the PP who have the best vision, would have to be two of these three- Zuke, Stepan, Hayes
- mdw7413

Yeah i have to agree with RD that hayes would be a NIGHTMARE for you guys up there. Dumb turnovers/ being lazy getting back wouldnt be good. Id put him on half boards. Zuc is a good one for the point tho. I just think brass shot is underrated and under used, and if he could bomb it from up top itd be good. MCI is another option, but depending on his usage and time PP time might be too much for him yet.

How about the dark horse Buch on the point? I heard he was way more of a playmaker than a shooter, right?

You seriously are going to argue he doesn't have great vision??

Would be like me arguing Kreider isn't physically fit because he doesn't use it enough.
- mdw7413

Im laughing that it's a question between those 3. He's got nice vision, but Zucc and Stepan clearly trump him.

Im laughing that it's a question between those 3. He's got nice vision, but Zucc and Stepan clearly trump him.
- rangerdanger94

I said it would have to be 2 of those three, and I put them in order of highest to lowest.

They have 12 mil in cap room. It all depends on direction they go, as to 1-2 years deals or long term ones. Trust me, know very well the cap constraints they are in. Would you rather Holden at $1.6 mil or Schultz at around same amount, presuming he was attainable there?
- airjan23

Holden. Lead the AVs in hits and after reading about him he could be very similar to Klein.

I said it would have to be 2 of those three, and I put them in order of highest to lowest.
- mdw7413

It's Zucc and Stepan and then a few significant notches below is Hayes. Nice try sneaking him in there tho

It would be like me saying the best defensemen in the league are Subban, Karlsson, Josi, Hedman, and McDonagh. Yea, McDonaghs good, but he's obviously a tier below the other guys.

It's Zucc and Stepan and then a few significant notches below is Hayes. Nice try sneaking him in there tho

It would be like me saying the best defensemen in the league are Subban, Karlsson, Josi, Hedman, and McDonagh. Yea, McDonaghs good, but he's obviously a tier below the other guys.
- rangerdanger94

Oh stop.

I'm putting in the 3 forwards that have the best vision. Last year when Hayes did get some PP time he always came up to the point(looked like he was comfortable there) and he made some very nice plays.

Do I think its the best thing to do, no, but you guys are the ones who want a forward on the point. I would take the 4 d men

Oh stop.

I'm putting in the 3 forwards that have the best vision. Last year when Hayes did get some PP time he always came up to the point(looked like he was comfortable there) and he made some very nice plays.

Do I think its the best thing to do, no, but you guys are the ones who want a forward on the point. I would take the 4 d men
- mdw7413

Nash and Brassard have better vision than Hayes in my opinion

Surpsingly, Fast is the only player I can recall who sets up in the slot for one timers in the past couple seasons
- rangerdanger94

I wish Kreider (if here) could be moved to the slot position. Let him rip it and then crash the net if possible. Stick someone else in front.

I wish Kreider (if here) could be moved to the slot position. Let him rip it and then crash the net if possible. Stick someone else in front.
- Bean_Dip

Kreider literally shoots he exact same spot every single facking time. Wake the f up Kreider, this is the NHL. Goalies have scouting reports on players.

God forbid he goes 5 hole

Nash and Brassard have better vision than Hayes in my opinion
- rangerdanger94

No way Brass does, but I will admit Nash is very underated and you could be correct, but you don't want Nash on the point.

Kreider literally shoots he exact same spot every single facking time. Wake the f up Kreider, this is the NHL. Goalies have scouting reports on players.

God forbid he goes 5 hole
- rangerdanger94

Kreider just needs to stand in front of the goalie and never move. Pretty simple even he could do that.

Kreider just needs to stand in front of the goalie and never move. Pretty simple even he could do that.
- mdw7413

I just don't think that's where he'd be best used. You want a traffic cone in front of the net, and frankly Kreider hasn't been good there. I'd experiment with moving him to the high slot and play an overload style. Let the kid crash the net with his strength.

I just don't think that's where he'd be best used. You want a traffic cone in front of the net, and frankly Kreider hasn't been good there. I'd experiment with moving him to the high slot and play an overload style. Let the kid crash the net with his strength.
- Bean_Dip

The thing about Kreider, he doesn't have the best hands. Its why I would use him as a screen and nothing more. He isn't like a Graves where he used to park his ass in front, take a beating, but always seemed to find the loose puck for a chance.

He does have a heavy shot, so I could see putting him in Stepans spot on the dot, but he would have to do a lot of summer training there to get an accurate 1 timer.

We could groom him like our mini Ovi on the PP, just without all that incredible hockey skill.

Oh stop.

I'm putting in the 3 forwards that have the best vision. Last year when Hayes did get some PP time he always came up to the point(looked like he was comfortable there) and he made some very nice plays.

Do I think its the best thing to do, no, but you guys are the ones who want a forward on the point. I would take the 4 d men
- mdw7413

Close your eyes and imagine Hayes trying to catch someone on a short-handed breakaway after a turnover.
I may be in my 40's and 20lbs overweight, but I think I could keep up with him.