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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 12 @ 3:20 PM ET
Agreed. Other than Vancouver and Toronto, i think they've hit the nail on the head most everywhere else.
- walshyleafsfan


I disagreed with most of the rankings...just shows the average hockey fan is clueless. Interesting they wouldnt reveal who was surveyed
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 12 @ 3:25 PM ET
Agreed. Other than Vancouver and Toronto, i think they've hit the nail on the head most everywhere else.
- walshyleafsfan

I also think they got the oilers wrong. In recent years they added draisatl/mcdavid/pulj. That meaks them(thorugh luck on mcdavid) the 1st ranked team in DD no matter what. They may suck in other rounds. But those 2/3 of those players are a cut above the rest in terms of talent. The only player that could rival is is Ekblad.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 12 @ 3:25 PM ET
I disagreed with most of the rankings...just shows the average hockey fan is clueless. Interesting they wouldnt reveal who was surveyed
- CanuckDon


Its strange that there isn't really an big gaps in how fans broke down specific aspects. If they ranked one category a 4 then they rest are 4 or 5s it seems with little aberration throughout the rest of the teams.



golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 12 @ 3:26 PM ET
I also think they got the oilers wrong. In recent years they added draisatl/mcdavid/pulj. That meaks them(thorugh luck on mcdavid) the 1st ranked team in DD no matter what. They may suck in other rounds. But those 2/3 of those players are a cut above the rest in terms of talent. The only player that could rival is is Ekblad.
- Retinalz


Oilers are there based on reputation. One playoff season and they'd be top 5.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 12 @ 3:26 PM ET
I also think they got the oilers wrong. In recent years they added draisatl/mcdavid/pulj. That meaks them(thorugh luck on mcdavid) the 1st ranked team in DD no matter what. They may suck in other rounds. But those 2/3 of those players are a cut above the rest in terms of talent. The only player that could rival is is Ekblad.
- Retinalz


No it makes them a bad team that happens to get lucky more often than not when it comes to the lottery. I think most Edm fans get that.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 12 @ 3:28 PM ET
Arizona at 7th? surprise surprise, Eastern based media and fanbases are a complete farce

Based on the rankings I guess we'll (again) have to embrace the "Us Vs Them" attitude. I have no problem with that, though
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 12 @ 3:29 PM ET
Its strange that there isn't really an big gaps in how fans broke down specific aspects. If they ranked one category a 4 then they rest are 4 or 5s it seems with little aberration throughout the rest of the teams.
- belcherbd

I think it shows that very little thought was put into the survey. Team A is bad so they are bad at all areas of operations. A really pointless survey
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jul 12 @ 3:30 PM ET
Agreed. Other than Vancouver and Toronto, i think they've hit the nail on the head most everywhere else.
- walshyleafsfan


Considering the measurement is of confidence I'm actually surprised the Leafs arent higher. The consensus in the media and some fans is they are finally doing things the right way. There is extreme confidence and optimism that the team is going to be great in the future and wont rush prospects or trade away young assets.

That said I am not shocked Canucks are that low either, they have been painted as the laughing stock now that Edmonton has McDavid to carry them out of the basement. I am most shocked at Tampa as #1, with the gongshow that went on the past season and the Coyotes given their poor team should not have anyone's confidence at this stage (who signs Vermette to the contract they did, even during a rebuild? More questionable than Vrbata and Eriksson in my books)
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 12 @ 3:31 PM ET
Arizona at 7th? surprise surprise, Eastern based media and fanbases are a complete farce

Based on the rankings I guess we'll (again) have to embrace the "Us Vs Them" attitude. I have no problem with that, though

- Zogg

we are used to it. (frank) everyone else
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 12 @ 3:34 PM ET
No it makes them a bad team that happens to get lucky more often than not when it comes to the lottery. I think most Edm fans get that.
- belcherbd

Sorry but this is wrong. Every team that misses the playoffs in the league wishes they were that lucky. Draisatl has developed into a great centre, McDavid was a guarantee, and Pulj looks like he will put up 30-40g/season for the next 10+ years. Just because they got lucky, doesn't mean that the players coming up are worthless.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jul 12 @ 3:37 PM ET
Sbisa made Team Europe... so he can't be all that bad as some on here keep making him out to be...

I'd keep him over Tanev personally.

- kaptaan



Jim benning is that you.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jul 12 @ 3:37 PM ET
Sorry but this is wrong. Every team that misses the playoffs in the league wishes they were that lucky. Draisatl has developed into a great centre, McDavid was a guarantee, and Pulj looks like he will put up 30-40g/season for the next 10+ years. Just because they got lucky, doesn't mean that the players coming up are worthless.
- Retinalz


The survey was based on fans' confidence in management. It doesn't take any skill to draft high. Even less to draft high over and over.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jul 12 @ 3:38 PM ET
Sorry but this is wrong. Every team that misses the playoffs in the league wishes they were that lucky. Draisatl has developed into a great centre, McDavid was a guarantee, and Pulj looks like he will put up 30-40g/season for the next 10+ years. Just because they got lucky, doesn't mean that the players coming up are worthless.
- Retinalz


But their drafting has been awful outside of the first pick, and with the accumulated assets they had, they havent been able to turn it into anything besides a bottom finish. I can see fans having some confidence that they are going to round out the roster but now they finally acquired a solid defenseman it cost them one of the best wingers in the game. Hard to feel confident in management after that
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 12 @ 3:40 PM ET
The survey was based on fans' confidence in management. It doesn't take any skill to draft high. Even less to draft high over and over.
- CubanBuffet


200 random fans from around the league. Even the most dedicated fans can't really understand the inner workings of every team. Whereas i'm not surprised where the Canucks place, there are other teams that I feel should be higher than they are.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 12 @ 3:42 PM ET
Sorry but this is wrong. Every team that misses the playoffs in the league wishes they were that lucky. Draisatl has developed into a great centre, McDavid was a guarantee, and Pulj looks like he will put up 30-40g/season for the next 10+ years. Just because they got lucky, doesn't mean that the players coming up are worthless.
- Retinalz


That's a pretty bold prognostication - what do you base this on? The guy hasn't played a single NHL game yet and is a decent prospect, that is all at this point.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 12 @ 3:42 PM ET
Sbisa made Team Europe... so he can't be all that bad as some on here keep making him out to be...

I'd keep him over Tanev personally.

- kaptaan

CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Jul 12 @ 3:43 PM ET
200 random fans from around the league. Even the most dedicated fans can't really understand the inner workings of every team. Whereas i'm not surprised where the Canucks place, there are other teams that I feel should be higher than they are.
- golfingsince


I just glanced at it, but considering it's an opinion based list based off of anonymous opinions I didn't read it all that closely.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 12 @ 3:56 PM ET
I think it shows that very little thought was put into the survey. Team A is bad so they are bad at all areas of operations. A really pointless survey
- CanuckDon

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 12 @ 4:09 PM ET
Nice work, Carol!! Thanks.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 12 @ 4:16 PM ET

- A_SteamingLombardi

I like how for the Leafs it says "There may be too many chefs in the kitchen, fascinating to see how it will play out." But they basically say theres no reason to pay attention to the Canucks, everything they do is wrong and they inspire 0 confidence. Ontario media
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 12 @ 4:18 PM ET
I like how for the Leafs it says "There may be too many chefs in the kitchen, fascinating to see how it will play out." But they basically say theres no reason to pay attention to the Canucks, everything they do is wrong and they inspire 0 confidence. Ontario media
- NorthNuck

Yeah, why Canuck fans post this crap here is beyond me.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 12 @ 4:18 PM ET
Bahahah read the writers profile.

"Dom Luszczyszyn is a freelancer for The Hockey News. His passion for the game stems from his father, who enjoys yelling at the TV while watching. Dom has strong opinions on your favorite team based on numbers – and numbers only – because he doesn't watch the games, just his spreadsheets."
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 12 @ 4:19 PM ET
Yeah, why Canuck fans post this crap here is beyond me.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I agree there's really no point, it's useless information and all it serves is to make people angry.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 12 @ 4:20 PM ET
Awesome, Benning is the worst GM at drafting in the league I'd love to know who was surveyed...200 Leafs fans?
- CanuckDon

Troy from White Rock and Maple Leaf Dave in the British Properties and that little b*tch Tambir.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jul 12 @ 4:22 PM ET
Arizona at 7th? surprise surprise, Eastern based media and fanbases are a complete farce

Based on the rankings I guess we'll (again) have to embrace the "Us Vs Them" attitude. I have no problem with that, though

- Zogg


Don't they have a new gm? young, analytics guy?
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