in terms of the d pairings, i like mdz and gudas together, and i kept streit and schultz together because they have been for some time now.

also i have provy and ghost as my top d pairing in nhl 16, so....yea
- sjk540

While I am sure it would be fun. I doubt they start that way. Id rather have MDZ with ghost and Provorov with Gudas

Why not Laughton. not like raffl, schenn, VDV, or anyone else for that matter has worked. hes scored at every level he has been at, and plays a solid 200 foot game with some great speed, why not see what you have?
- sjk540

Schenn looked good at times there, as has Raffl. I wouldn't hate it, I just think he's better off in a different situation, with less pressure. Like anything, there's plus and minus to it.

Schenn looked good at times there, as has Raffl. I wouldn't hate it, I just think he's better off in a different situation, with less pressure. Like anything, there's corsi to it.
- MJL

Corsi is more relevant these days

Matt Read will score 35 goals this year.

Why not Laughton. not like raffl, schenn, VDV, or anyone else for that matter has worked. hes scored at every level he has been at, and plays a solid 200 foot game with some great speed, why not see what you have?
- sjk540

I would be open to going with Laughton in a top 6 role, but more as a "let's give him a shot" thing than a "Here's a solution" manner.

I think my lines would be, at this point:

10-28-17
21/12-14-93
12/21-52-Weise
78/76/Lyubimov-Gordon-24
with one of the guys who don't make the 4th line as 13th F & the other being sent to Lehigh. Weal is another guy in the mix, but if he doesn't get a top 6 job, I wouldn't consider him for the 3rd or 4th lines.

Good thing/bad thing, with the World Cup, there should be guys missing from camp, so some of the fringe guys will get ample opportunity to show their stuff in preseason and camp

Schenn looked good at times there, as has Raffl. I wouldn't hate it, I just think he's better off in a different situation, with less pressure. Like anything, there's plus and minus to it.
- MJL

what im trying to illustrate is that with Laughtons tools he needs more minutes per game, and i believe that comes with a top 6 role. i agree with with the less pressure thing, but how long are we gonna go giving laughton a roster spot and not truly testing him to see what we have. As Jsaquella said, its about show me what u can do, not as a solution before the fact.

I would be open to going with Laughton in a top 6 role, but more as a "let's give him a shot" thing than a "Here's a solution" manner.

I think my lines would be, at this point:

10-28-17
21/12-14-93
12/21-52-Weise
78/76/Lyubimov-Gordon-24
with one of the guys who don't make the 4th line as 13th F & the other being sent to Lehigh. Weal is another guy in the mix, but if he doesn't get a top 6 job, I wouldn't consider him for the 3rd or 4th lines.

Good thing/bad thing, with the World Cup, there should be guys missing from camp, so some of the fringe guys will get ample opportunity to show their stuff in preseason and camp
- Jsaquella

my opinion would be to get jake and G back together. i feel they play better with each other. that being said, splitting them up isnt the end of the world.

on weal, thats why i left him out, if hes not getting a top 6 role, i dont want to force him into the bottom 6 just because. keep him on the top line in the AHL until we need him, can't hurt.

what im trying to illustrate is that with Laughtons tools he needs more minutes per game, and i believe that comes with a top 6 role. i agree with with the less pressure thing, but how long are we gonna go giving laughton a roster spot and not truly testing him to see what we have. As Jsaquella said, its about show me what u can do, not as a solution before the fact.
- sjk540

Plenty was said all year about how Laughton wasnt getting enough ice time, but the fact is that he wasnt playing well enough to deserve it

Matt Read will score 35 goals this year.
- jmatchett383

If this happens, I will stab myself in my right thigh while plunging myself in a bowl full of mayonnaise.

If this happens, I will stab myself in my right thigh while plunging myself in a bowl full of mayonnaise.
- MikesPillBottle

I am very concerned by how tall you are

what im trying to illustrate is that with Laughtons tools he needs more minutes per game, and i believe that comes with a top 6 role. i agree with with the less pressure thing, but how long are we gonna go giving laughton a roster spot and not truly testing him to see what we have. As Jsaquella said, its about show me what u can do, not as a solution before the fact.
- sjk540

I agree that he needs more minutes, but I also think young players need to earn those minutes. Part of the reason for not getting more playing time, was due to his concussion. I'm cautious about putting him in too big of a spot. The positive of it is, if he does well there and clicks with Giroux, it would make the Flyers a deeper team, and they'd be able to use Raffl on the 3rd line making that a better line. I'm not completely against it, it's just not my first choice.

I would be open to going with Laughton in a top 6 role, but more as a "let's give him a shot" thing than a "Here's a solution" manner.

I think my lines would be, at this point:

10-28-17
21/12-14-93
12/21-52-Weise
78/76/Lyubimov-Gordon-24
with one of the guys who don't make the 4th line as 13th F & the other being sent to Lehigh. Weal is another guy in the mix, but if he doesn't get a top 6 job, I wouldn't consider him for the 3rd or 4th lines.

Good thing/bad thing, with the World Cup, there should be guys missing from camp, so some of the fringe guys will get ample opportunity to show their stuff in preseason and camp
- Jsaquella

I hate Schenn on the top line, but in all honesty, he's the best left winger on the team.

I really hope Coots can continue to grow his offensive game and the younger guys really kick it up a notch this year.

I am very concerned by how tall you are
- YuenglingJagr

6'. No, I can't play LW for the Flyers. I'm ecstatic that you thought of me though!

I hate Schenn on the top line, but in all honesty, he's the best left winger on the team.

I really hope Coots can continue to grow his offensive game and the younger guys really kick it up a notch this year.
- MikesPillBottle

Hes the best left winger and we dont have 3 centers playing well enough to roll Voracek/Simmonds/Schenn down the right side

6'. No, I can't play LW for the Flyers. I'm ecstatic that you thought of me though!
- MikesPillBottle

where are you sourcing the bowl?

Plenty was said all year about how Laughton wasnt getting enough ice time, but the fact is that he wasnt playing well enough to deserve it
- YuenglingJagr

he was also playing with subpar linemates in terms of offense. you saw what matt read became and its not like cousins is a lightning rod for offense. id also like to see him get some 2nd unit PP time where can fully concentrate on his offense. he was a point per game player in juniors and in the AHL he rebounded quickly after his first several games coming back from injury to be a pretty good scorer, i think we need to see what he is capable of in a role like that before dismissing him as one.

I hate Schenn on the top line, but in all honesty, he's the best left winger on the team.

I really hope Coots can continue to grow his offensive game and the younger guys really kick it up a notch this year.
- MikesPillBottle

Schenn played real well last year on Coots' wing.

It's why I like

21/28/17
10/14/93
12/52/22 (22 being Weise)
The new coach's faves line...76/78/24? or the new Russian.

he was also playing with subpar linemates in terms of offense. you saw what matt read became and its not like cousins is a lightning rod for offense. id also like to see him get some 2nd unit PP time where can fully concentrate on his offense. he was a point per game player in juniors and in the AHL he rebounded quickly after his first several games coming back from injury to be a pretty good scorer, i think we need to see what he is capable of in a role like that before dismissing him as one.
- sjk540

he was a liability on defense...that does not make a case for more ice time

his defense was the part of his game that was always supposed to translate

I agree that he needs more minutes, but I also think young players need to earn those minutes. Part of the reason for not getting more playing time, was due to his concussion. I'm cautious about putting him in too big of a spot. The positive of it is, if he does well there and clicks with Giroux, it would make the Flyers a deeper team, and they'd be able to use Raffl on the 3rd line making that a better line. I'm not completely against it, it's just not my first choice.
- MJL

thats a bonus of it as well. having guys who play a 200 foot game like Laughton and G on your top line, adds another element as well. Whereas you may have some liabilities by having a lot of offensive talent on a line with little to none defensive responsibility, you have 2/3's of that line playing a very defensively responsible game. hell, even voracek has picked up his back checking since he came here.

Schenn played real well last year on Coots' wing.

It's why I like

21/28/17
10/14/93
12/52/22 (22 being Weise)
The new coach's faves line...76/78/24? or the new Russian.
- dragonoffrost

You left out Gordon.

thats a bonus of it as well. having guys who play a 200 foot game like Laughton and G on your top line, adds another element as well. Whereas you may have some liabilities by having a lot of offensive talent on a line with little to none defensive responsibility, you have 2/3's of that line playing a very defensively responsible game. hell, even voracek has picked up his back checking since he came here.
- sjk540

Need to clarify something. Laughton was known as a 200 foot player in juniors, but he has not shown that to this point in the NHL. That's part of why his minutes played have been down.

he was a liability on defense...that does not make a case for more ice time

his defense was the part of his game that was always supposed to translate
- YuenglingJagr

again, playing with subpar linemates. his corsi was a bit above his career average last year, and he was 50-50 in terms of zone starts. pair him with play drivers like G and Voracek and i bet his numbers would go up. guys like raffl drive play on their own and make players around them better, which is why i think he is perfect as the 3C on this team

Need to clarify something. Laughton was known as a 200 foot player in juniors, but he has not shown that to this point in the NHL. That's part of why his minutes played have been down.
- MJL

i understand that, but hes also only played in a about 100 games over 3 seasons. and last year was his only year close to being full, and hes had concussions issues since the get go. id give him the benefit of the doubt and see what he has. still think there is more to him than all of us have seen.

again, playing with subpar linemates. his corsi was a bit above his career average last year, and he was 50-50 in terms of zone starts. pair him with play drivers like G and Voracek and i bet his numbers would go up. guys like raffl drive play on their own and make players around them better, which is why i think he is perfect as the 3C on this team
- sjk540

Hakstol is not looking at his numbers, he's looking at his individual play.

Matt Read will score 35 goals this year.
- jmatchett383

The Phantoms will be excellent this year.