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MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 11 @ 11:08 AM ET
JVR - Kadri - Lupul
Michalek - Bozak - Marner
Komarov - Matthews - Nylander
Martin - Laich - Hyman.

Greening, Rychel. 13-14FW.
Soshnikov, Brown, Leivo AHL.

Unless Leafs are able to trade Lupul / Michalek (/Bozak) I think this is the lineup we're looking at for the Leafs in Oct.
Cfser
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Anyone who claims insider know
Joined: 07.26.2006

Jul 11 @ 11:08 AM ET
I too believe that Marner will likely play NHL this year.


But can anybody give definitive evidence of a player whose development has been hindered by staying an extra year in the CHL...?

- lumlums



I didn't play any years in the CHL and I suck at hockey!
This is concrete evidence that the more you play in the CHL the better you are!
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 11 @ 11:09 AM ET
I too believe that Marner will likely play NHL this year.


But can anybody give definitive evidence of a player whose development has been hindered by staying an extra year in the CHL...?

- lumlums


Mitch Marner 2015-2016.
Tanooki
Location: Professional propagandist, Val D’or
Joined: 06.28.2016

Jul 11 @ 11:11 AM ET
I too believe that Marner will likely play NHL this year.


But can anybody give definitive evidence of a player whose development has been hindered by staying an extra year in the CHL...?

- lumlums

thats impossible to tell...

Some guys production dropped when they were sent back to junior..
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 11 @ 11:11 AM ET
JVR - Kadri - Lupul
Michalek - Bozak - Marner
Komarov - Matthews - Nylander
Martin - Laich - Hyman.

Greening, Rychel. 13-14FW.
Soshnikov, Brown, Leivo AHL.

Unless Leafs are able to trade Lupul / Michalek (/Bozak) I think this is the lineup we're looking at for the Leafs in Oct.

- MaximusAurelius


JvR - Kadri - Nylander
Koimarov - Matthews - Marner
Lupul - Bozak - Brown
Martin - Laich - Sosh

That's how I'd roll anyway. I remember Babs saying that Marner/Matthews will be started together in camp...
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 11 @ 11:12 AM ET
thats impossible to tell...

Some guys production dropped when they were sent back to junior..

- Tanooki


Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 11 @ 11:12 AM ET
I too believe that Marner will likely play NHL this year.


But can anybody give definitive evidence of a player whose development has been hindered by staying an extra year in the CHL...?

- lumlums

You are asking for something that you very well know is un-quantifiable.

Quite frankly, I'm disappointed that you - as a scientist - would be asking for this.

Enjoy your ban.
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jul 11 @ 11:12 AM ET
The new Buffalo troll blog should be fun!
Tanooki
Location: Professional propagandist, Val D’or
Joined: 06.28.2016

Jul 11 @ 11:13 AM ET
JvR - Kadri - Nylander
Koimarov - Matthews - Marner
Lupul - Bozak - Brown
Martin - Laich - Sosh

That's how I'd roll anyway. I remember Babs saying that Marner/Matthews will be started together in camp...

- lumlums

Didnt he say Nylander and Matthews?
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 11 @ 11:13 AM ET
Mitch Marner 2015-2016.
- MaximusAurelius


How so? He scored at a slightly better rate (2.04 vs 2.00 PPG), improved defensively, won pretty much every single individual honour and also the Memorial cup to top it off....
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jul 11 @ 11:14 AM ET
JvR - Kadri - Nylander
Koimarov - Matthews - Marner
Lupul - Bozak - Brown
Martin - Laich - Sosh

That's how I'd roll anyway. I remember Babs saying that Marner/Matthews will be started together in camp...

- lumlums

I don't hate that lineup.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 11 @ 11:14 AM ET
Didnt he say Nylander and Matthews?
- Tanooki


I thought that it was Marner... anyway, whichever one of those two go with him should be a VERY nice partnership to watch on the ice
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 11 @ 11:15 AM ET
I don't hate that lineup.
- Atomic Wedgie


I think it balances everything out relatively well. Obviously there's many months of development and potential trades to happen, but that would be my choice if the season started tonight...
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 11 @ 11:15 AM ET
I don't hate that lineup.
- Atomic Wedgie

because it doesn't show their d
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 11 @ 11:16 AM ET
You are asking for something that you very well know is un-quantifiable.

Quite frankly, I'm disappointed that you - as a scientist - would be asking for this.

Enjoy your ban.

- Atomic Wedgie


And that is exactly my point. People say that it would hurt his development, but there's nothing tangible to prove that this is a phenomenon that occurs.

Sometimes, the fact that there is no definitive answer is the very reason that it's a good question - it forces people to think outside of the box
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 11 @ 11:18 AM ET
because it doesn't show their d
- daeth


As it stands I run:

Rielly - Zeitsev
Gardiner - Carrick
Marincin - Corrado
Hunwick - Polak


Again, just my preference with who we have. Ideally I'd like to move out Marincin/Hunwick and get one of Loov/Valiev up, but I believe both are still waiver eligible so that likely won't happen
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jul 11 @ 11:20 AM ET
As it stands I run:

Rielly - Zeitsev
Gardiner - Carrick
Marincin - Corrado
Hunwick - Polak


Again, just my preference with who we have. Ideally I'd like to move out Marincin/Hunwick and get one of Loov/Valiev up, but I believe both are still waiver eligible so that likely won't happen

- lumlums


I thought we were discussing Leafs' lineup, not Marlies' ???
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 11 @ 11:21 AM ET
LOL Original Six and I played since I was 6 years old ( and probably at a higher level than you). Morgan Reilly has nearly limitless potential, but he is FAR from a true #1 dman in the NHL at this point. The Bandwagon chirp is so unoriginal and not even applicable. The Hawks are an Original Six team with more Cups before the Salary Cap Dynasty than your franchise has in its entire existence. Also, check the NHL draft/ central scouting to see how many NHL prospects are coming out of Chicago youth hockey before calling any Hawks fan a "bandwagoner". What kind of "Bandwagon fan" is on a hockey blog in July? LOL
- EnzoD


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Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jul 11 @ 11:22 AM ET
So how do you feel about the Subban trade?
- Cfser


100% agree with Down Goes Brown's analysis.
stormey
Location: it is Babsy turning a boy into a man - JL0961
Joined: 10.13.2005

Jul 11 @ 11:23 AM ET
As it stands I run:

Rielly - Zeitsev
Gardiner - Carrick
Marincin - Corrado
Hunwick - Polak


Again, just my preference with who we have. Ideally I'd like to move out Marincin/Hunwick and get one of Loov/Valiev up, but I believe both are still waiver eligible so that likely won't happen

- lumlums

Two rookies in your top 4?
also I don't think they signed Polak to sit in the press box.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 11 @ 11:23 AM ET
As it stands I run:

Rielly - Zeitsev
Gardiner - Carrick
Marincin - Corrado
Hunwick - Polak


Again, just my preference with who we have. Ideally I'd like to move out Marincin/Hunwick and get one of Loov/Valiev up, but I believe both are still waiver eligible so that likely won't happen

- lumlums

Terrifying defense.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 11 @ 11:24 AM ET
?
- Aetherial


we all know you're a Sens fan
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jul 11 @ 11:24 AM ET
Two rookies in your top 4?
also I don't think they signed Polak to sit in the press box.

- stormey


Lou is petitioning the league to allow Toronto 20 skaters
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jul 11 @ 11:25 AM ET
And that is exactly my point. People say that it would hurt his development, but there's nothing tangible to prove that this is a phenomenon that occurs.

Sometimes, the fact that there is no definitive answer is the very reason that it's a good question - it forces people to think outside of the box

- lumlums


For me it’s 2 things:

i) Let guys develop at their own pace. Each player will be different. Let players complete their development in their current league before moving to them to the next league.

ii) Move players up when they earn a roster spot. Given the state of the roster, this seems pretty achievable for someone with marner’s skill set. If this was a veteran SC contending team, another year of junior would probably be more likely imo.
stormey
Location: it is Babsy turning a boy into a man - JL0961
Joined: 10.13.2005

Jul 11 @ 11:27 AM ET
Lou is petitioning the league to allow Toronto 20 skaters
- DoubleDown

Well....if anyone can pull that off it's Lou.
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