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allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jul 10 @ 5:20 PM ET
What am I missing? Why does Philly want to unload Schenn?
- CanuckDon


Philly doesn't want to pay him.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 10 @ 5:21 PM ET
Because we want him
- LeftCoaster

(frank) I'm glad I'm drinking...
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 10 @ 5:23 PM ET
Hank will be around for 3-4 seasons so plenty of time to find/draft/develop a 1C.
Not saying its easy but no need to force a deal.
D has improved and with prospects also in the system.
Goal is well taken care of.
Need to draft more F's & fill up the cupboard more til the right deal presents itself.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jul 10 @ 5:25 PM ET
He struggles with not deviating from his plan during a game.
- VanHockeyGuy

exactly.
and when you look at any cup winning team they always have a coach that knows how to swiftly change a game. You cant win without it. WD is probably the worst coach I have ever seen at that aspect.

As said by the poster you responded to the system needs to change. Actually its lack of a defensive system. We need 1.

Jarvis was a defensive guy as an assistant, lets hope he can add that to this team
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 10 @ 5:25 PM ET
How nuts would this crowd go if JB traded for Kane and Schenn?
- VANTEL

we don't have enough draft picks to give away to make that happen…

allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jul 10 @ 5:25 PM ET
Huge difference though, Brayden Schenn JUST put up a good offensive season with 59 points. When Richards went to LA he'd already put up 66, 62, 80 & 75 points in consecutive years. Same with Carter when he went to Columbus, he'd already scored 46 goals and had 23, 29, 33 & 36 goal seasons.

Brayden Schenn isn't in that league yet.

- LeftCoaster


He may not be hard to tell because when Richards and Carter put up those numbers in Philly the league was also scoring more. Hate that the NHL is slow to try to get scoring back up.

Schenn put up good last half season numbers and has progressed though just behind Mackinnon and Scheiffle numbers.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 10 @ 5:26 PM ET
exactly.
and when you look at any cup winning team they always have a coach that knows how to swiftly change a game. You cant win without it. WD is probably the worst coach I have ever seen at that aspect.

As said by the poster you responded to the system needs to change. Actually its lack of a defensive system. We need 1.

Jarvis was a defensive guy as an assistant, lets hope he can add that to this team

- SMBDragon


Adding EG & Loui will help a lot.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 10 @ 5:26 PM ET
Schenn was a fifth overall. Same as a player like Drouin the cost will be high.

Unlike most here I doubt Canucks are getting a top 10 pick next year.

- VANTEL

agree I think we will be picking somewhere from 11-17
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 10 @ 5:27 PM ET
SChen for Edler 1 for 1 I'll do it right now
- The_Kuze

In a heartbeat.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 10 @ 5:29 PM ET
Huge difference though, Brayden Schenn JUST put up a good offensive season with 59 points. When Richards went to LA he'd already put up 66, 62, 80 & 75 points in consecutive years. Same with Carter when he went to Columbus, he'd already scored 46 goals and had 23, 29, 33 & 36 goal seasons.

Brayden Schenn isn't in that league yet.

- LeftCoaster



He is still young he can build on those numbers.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 10 @ 5:31 PM ET
What am I missing? Why does Philly want to unload Schenn?
- CanuckDon



They are nowhere near agreement in salary
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 10 @ 5:34 PM ET
They are nowhere near agreement in salary
- VANTEL

Realistically what should Schenn be worth and can we squeeze him in?
allsports
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jul 10 @ 5:37 PM ET
Realistically what should Schenn be worth and can we squeeze him in?
- LordHumungous


Above at least $5m, probably looking for more but if you look at how much Mackinnon and Scheiffle just got over $6m per year he's not there but not far behind either.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 10 @ 5:40 PM ET
Realistically what should Schenn be worth and can we squeeze him in?
- LordHumungous



They have a lot of good young D so it would need to be a forward.

My two untouchables are Bo and Boeser on the forwards.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 10 @ 5:41 PM ET
agree I think we will be picking somewhere from 11-17
- LordHumungous


This is highly probable.
That said accumulating assets as we have can be in a deal to move up next draft or not. I see trades & UFA's being in the near future or next offseason. UFA market is slim atm but with expansion coming patience is best. JB will have cap space next year & what he does with it will be important.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 10 @ 5:42 PM ET
Realistically what should Schenn be worth and can we squeeze him in?
- LordHumungous


5.5m max but assets going to Philly is a sticking point IMO
Also i am not on board that he is a 1C.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 10 @ 5:46 PM ET
Realistically what should Schenn be worth and can we squeeze him in?
- LordHumungous

Personally I think he is only worth about 4.5 million per over the next 2- 3 years. I think we need to see more from him. If he is asking Mackinnon, Schielfie and Hall money he isn't there.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 10 @ 5:46 PM ET
He is still young he can build on those numbers.
- VANTEL

For sure...but he's not worth what those guys were at the time.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 10 @ 5:47 PM ET
They have a lot of good young D so it would need to be a forward.

My two untouchables are Bo and Boeser on the forwards.

- VANTEL

No such thing in my vocabulary.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 10 @ 5:47 PM ET
5.5m max but assets going to Philly is a sticking point IMO
Also i am not on board that he is a 1C.

- Nighthawk

I am not either.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 10 @ 5:54 PM ET
No such thing in my vocabulary.
- thundachunk

silly to get attached to players, they are all a commodity. First round draft picks are another story though
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 10 @ 5:55 PM ET
No such thing in my vocabulary.
- thundachunk



I think Bo is the new face of the franchise
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 10 @ 5:56 PM ET
Personally I think he is only worth about 4.5 million per over the next 2- 3 years. I think we need to see more from him. If he is asking Mackinnon, Schielfie and Hall money he isn't there.
- thundachunk

Strangely enough they paid Couturier 4.3 million per over the next six years.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 10 @ 5:58 PM ET
I think Bo is the new face of the franchise
- VANTEL


Loaded with character & a fixture here for us.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 10 @ 6:08 PM ET
I think Bo is the new face of the franchise
- VANTEL


He will be the next captain of the Canucks
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