Per the NHL rules, those with NMCs have to be protected for the draft. A player can waive for a trade, not the draft.
- JRoenick97

From NHL.com regarding the expansion draft:
* All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).

This would indicate that they could waive, and be eligible for the draft. My question is why would they?

What about Bertuzzi from the wings. Some grit, battles on the boards and in front of the net. Cap hit of under 700k for two years and detroit is looking for a bottom pairing defenseman
- ikeane

I would rather get King. From LA...less than 2 mill cap hit and he can skate and play physical

Anyone going to Prospect Camp tomorrow? Just wondering, if all FO people are usually there? Both Bowmans?

Interesting to see some of these kids in Group C live!
- KMFDMLight

The FO people are there sometimes when we go, and sometimes not, but we have seen Q, Stan, McDonough, Jay Blunk, and even Rocky there over the years. We got to meet Q, and my wife almost literally ran into Stan once. They usually sit in the middle section of stands.

Dreger reported multiple teams interested in Steeger 5 days ago. I can't imagine him not getting a deal.
- JRoenick97

I think he is getting tired of being traded every year at the deadline or before the season. Look his travel resume in 9 years: bruins, hawks, leafs, flyers, panthers, leafs, hawks, canes, kings.

I think he is getting tired of being traded every year at the deadline or before the season. Look his travel resume in 9 years: bruins, hawks, leafs, flyers, panthers, leafs, hawks, canes, kings.
- bogiedoc

I would sign him to a 3 year deal at 1.4 a year and keep him...and that helps our wing depth

I think he is getting tired of being traded every year at the deadline or before the season. Look his travel resume in 9 years: bruins, hawks, leafs, flyers, panthers, leafs, hawks, canes, kings.
- bogiedoc

He should sign here. While his salary would need to be low, I'm sure he could get a lock tight NMC from Stan

To get a 1LW back? No Way

Trade TVR next week, 3 games into the season, Rozy's ankle give out again, and he's back to using a walker.

Just wait and see how many posts there are on here about what and idiot Stan was for trading a dependable, young, cost effective Dman with that much experience at his age.

You don't know how good Kempny is yet, but you certainly know what Rozy, the Giraffe and Gus are.

How many of you would have put the Giraffe, Gus, or Rozy out on the ice ahead of TVR in the playoffs last year?

Why would you do it now. Defense wins championships and the top 6 D of;

Duncs - Seabs
Soupy - Hammer
Kempny - TVR

Is deeper than any of the 3 cup winning teams.

You know the offense and the forward depth is in no way as good as its been. With that being the case, just can't understand why you would give away your strongest asset in d depth.
- vabeachbear

Can't really speak to the move of TVR until the return is known. If Stan trades him for a player who clearly doesn't fit, the 'Hawks got weakened. If the returning player allows Q to have more balanced scoring while helping out the D, it could certainly be a better balance of O depth and D depth. We won't know until a trade is made.

There is also a good chance TVR goes nowhere and Stan plugs in O depth another way.

Can't really speak to the move of TVR until the return is known. If Stan trades him for a player who clearly doesn't fit, the 'Hawks got weakened. If the returning player allows Q to have more balanced scoring while helping out the D, it could certainly be a better balance of O depth and D depth. We won't know until a trade is made.

There is also a good chance TVR goes nowhere and Stan plugs in O depth another way.
- blackhawk24

I just can't believe the Hawks would get a return of someone capable of holding down 1LW job with 19 and 81.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, just don't see it.

Can't really speak to the move of TVR until the return is known. If Stan trades him for a player who clearly doesn't fit, the 'Hawks got weakened. If the returning player allows Q to have more balanced scoring while helping out the D, it could certainly be a better balance of O depth and D depth. We won't know until a trade is made.

There is also a good chance TVR goes nowhere and Stan plugs in O depth another way.
- blackhawk24

And that's where versteeg comes in..

With h Campbell back... I think our top 4 is the best top 4 in the league... And if we could move Crow.. Darling could hold it down enough to win a cup and that would free up space that we much need

I just can't believe the Hawks would get a return of someone capable of holding down 1LW job with 19 and 81.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, just don't see it.
- vabeachbear

The thought of 1L in return is too much for me to expect. Like it or not, 72/15/88 is the first line. I don't think 19/81 truly care which line is numbered what. That said, a kid or a vet who can slide into the left side with 19/81 and also alternate with perhaps Panik, or Vesey, or Versteeg gives Q alternatives. I am not advocating TVR going, I think SB is going to try to get a team desperate for a young defenceman to overpay, not necessarily by money, for TVR's services. If he can't, he moves on to another option.

With h Campbell back... I think our top 4 is the best top 4 in the league... And if we could move Crow.. Darling could hold it down enough to win a cup and that would free up space that we much need
- southernhawk

Who would back up Darling? Of Crawford is dealt my first choice is to go with Darling as the starter but we need a quality back up in case he gets hurt.

Looking forward to watching the prospect pool. Interesting to see the way some guys have altered or matured their game from past years.

Out of curiosity, should the Hawks be concerned about Forsling wanting to go back to Sweden? Is that a hardball move or just going to play in a men's league close to home? Hard to see if he even has glimpse of hope of making the team. Looks to have some promising poise and skills, but he's got quite a few guys ahead of him in the prospect department.

Who would back up Darling? Of Crawford is dealt my first choice is to go with Darling as the starter but we need a quality back up in case he gets hurt.
- DarthKane

Maybe next offseason they move Crawford and roll with Darling and a "in-house goalie" or sign like a Craig Anderson. Honestly, Crawford gives the team a reliable goalie and with a deep defense in front of him, chances look good. Now we need some goals from the forward group

JJ has mentioned more than 10 times, usually these things are negotiable.
- vabeachbear

Uhhh, not in the case of expansion. I don't think so at least.

Trades? Yes, absolutely negotiable. You just ask the player to waive.

A player can waive his NMC, but do you think that any of the players with NMCs would waive to (possibly) play on an expansion team?
- tvetter

Right.

Who would back up Darling? Of Crawford is dealt my first choice is to go with Darling as the starter but we need a quality back up in case he gets hurt.
- DarthKane

1 Petr Mrazek DET 24.4 RFA 17
2 Karri Ramo CGY 30.0 UFA 34
3 Joni Ortio CGY 25.2 UFA 56
4 Jhonas Enroth LAK 28.0 UFA 62
5 Ben Scrivens MTL 29.8 UFA 64
6 Garret Sparks TOR 23.0 RFA 65
7 Anders Lindback ARZ 28.2 UFA 67
8 Christopher Gibson NYI 23.5 RFA 76
9 Michael Leighton CHI 35.1 UFA 83
10 Jason Kasdorf BUF 24.1 RFA 85
11 Pheonix Copley STL 24.5 RFA 87
12 Jordan Binnington STL 23.0 RFA 88
13 Yann Danis NJ 35.0 UFA 90
14 Niklas Treutle ARZ 25.2 UFA 92
15 Ray Emery PHI 33.8 UFA
16 Nathan Lieuwen BUF 24.9 UFA
17 Rasmus Tirronen CAR 25.7 UFA
18 Kevin Poulin CGY 26.2 UFA
19 Sami Aittokallio COL 23.9 UFA
20 Jack Campbell LAK 24.5 RFA
21 Tom McCollum DET 26.6 UFA
22 Patrik Bartosak LAK 23.3 UFA
23 Brody Hoffman MIN 25.4 UFA
24 Cedrick Desjardins NYR 30.8 UFA
25 Jason LaBarbera PHI 36.5 UFA
26 Joel Rumpel SJ 25.3 UFA
27 Dan Ellis WSH 36.1 UFA

1 Petr Mrazek DET 24.4 RFA 17
2 Karri Ramo CGY 30.0 UFA 34
3 Joni Ortio CGY 25.2 UFA 56
4 Jhonas Enroth LAK 28.0 UFA 62
5 Ben Scrivens MTL 29.8 UFA 64
6 Garret Sparks TOR 23.0 RFA 65
7 Anders Lindback ARZ 28.2 UFA 67
8 Christopher Gibson NYI 23.5 RFA 76
9 Michael Leighton CHI 35.1 UFA 83
10 Jason Kasdorf BUF 24.1 RFA 85
11 Pheonix Copley STL 24.5 RFA 87
12 Jordan Binnington STL 23.0 RFA 88
13 Yann Danis NJ 35.0 UFA 90
14 Niklas Treutle ARZ 25.2 UFA 92
15 Ray Emery PHI 33.8 UFA
16 Nathan Lieuwen BUF 24.9 UFA
17 Rasmus Tirronen CAR 25.7 UFA
18 Kevin Poulin CGY 26.2 UFA
19 Sami Aittokallio COL 23.9 UFA
20 Jack Campbell LAK 24.5 RFA
21 Tom McCollum DET 26.6 UFA
22 Patrik Bartosak LAK 23.3 UFA
23 Brody Hoffman MIN 25.4 UFA
24 Cedrick Desjardins NYR 30.8 UFA
25 Jason LaBarbera PHI 36.5 UFA
26 Joel Rumpel SJ 25.3 UFA
27 Dan Ellis WSH 36.1 UFA
- southernhawk

Out of that list I'd think Mrazek, Enroth and Ramo are the only ones that could step in and carry the load on a cup contending team like the hawks.

1 Petr Mrazek DET 24.4 RFA 17
2 Karri Ramo CGY 30.0 UFA 34
3 Joni Ortio CGY 25.2 UFA 56
4 Jhonas Enroth LAK 28.0 UFA 62
5 Ben Scrivens MTL 29.8 UFA 64
6 Garret Sparks TOR 23.0 RFA 65
7 Anders Lindback ARZ 28.2 UFA 67
8 Christopher Gibson NYI 23.5 RFA 76
9 Michael Leighton CHI 35.1 UFA 83
10 Jason Kasdorf BUF 24.1 RFA 85
11 Pheonix Copley STL 24.5 RFA 87
12 Jordan Binnington STL 23.0 RFA 88
13 Yann Danis NJ 35.0 UFA 90
14 Niklas Treutle ARZ 25.2 UFA 92
15 Ray Emery PHI 33.8 UFA
16 Nathan Lieuwen BUF 24.9 UFA
17 Rasmus Tirronen CAR 25.7 UFA
18 Kevin Poulin CGY 26.2 UFA
19 Sami Aittokallio COL 23.9 UFA
20 Jack Campbell LAK 24.5 RFA
21 Tom McCollum DET 26.6 UFA
22 Patrik Bartosak LAK 23.3 UFA
23 Brody Hoffman MIN 25.4 UFA
24 Cedrick Desjardins NYR 30.8 UFA
25 Jason LaBarbera PHI 36.5 UFA
26 Joel Rumpel SJ 25.3 UFA
27 Dan Ellis WSH 36.1 UFA
- southernhawk

Besides Mrazek the list is pretty scary. We'd be in trouble is Darling went down or went on a cold streak.

Uhhh, not in the case of expansion. I don't think so at least.

Trades? Yes, absolutely negotiable. You just ask the player to waive.
- John Jaeckel

Reading, but more so, comprehension is a talent, obviously I missed the part about it being for expansion

Besides Mrazek the list is pretty scary. We'd be in trouble is Darling went down or went on a cold streak.
- DarthKane

We need cap space about as much as we need a LW

We need cap space about as much as we need a LW
- southernhawk

I guess if you had another trade in place to bring back a bonafide 1 or 2LW, you could moved Crow for Marazek.

Should net you about 3 or 4 mil of cap space.

Don't know why Detroit would do it, maybe if you threw in TVR (since he can't speak Czech), and asked for a draft pick back as well.

I dunno, seems like more of a trade for after this season.

Still think with Hawks 1-6 Dman and Crow as G, you have the best in the league. If they play up to their ability, they won't need to score 4 and 5 goals a game.

D and goaltending wins in the playoffs.

We need cap space about as much as we need a LW
- southernhawk

I see where you're going with this, but wouldn't we be filling One void (1LW) by creating another (G)? Does that make the team stronger? It may work out but it's a risk. Plus, after this season Darling (as the #1) would be in for a raise and based on other deals in the league you can expect he would make close to $4 million. I think we'd need a more experienced back up with would cost around $1.5 to $2 million. There wouldn't be much cap space for a 1LW in the long term.

Who would back up Darling? Of Crawford is dealt my first choice is to go with Darling as the starter but we need a quality back up in case he gets hurt.
- DarthKane

Enroth?

I see where you're going with this, but wouldn't we be filling One void (1LW) by creating another (G)? Does that make the team stronger? It may work out but it's a risk. Plus, after this season Darling (as the #1) would be in for a raise and based on other deals in the league you can expect he would make close to $4 million. I think we'd need a more experienced back up with would cost around $1.5 to $2 million. There wouldn't be much cap space for a 1LW in the long term.
- DarthKane

With out the space to fill our holes....well we can't do anything without it bread man needing a raise next year...no more prospects to trade away... And the only significant cap relief is coming from the core