Anisimov is probably the best option available right now but that means he's not between 88/72 which probably means that line isn't going to be as effective.
- EbonyRaptor

Another option Richards affords is to slide Panarin up with Toews and Hossa. Let Richards center Kane and Anisimov. If they sign Richards and the Q blender gets going pretty much any combo in the top 6 is possible.

Like .... Anisimov
- John Jaeckel

What about Bertuzzi from the wings. Some grit, battles on the boards and in front of the net. Cap hit of under 700k for two years and detroit is looking for a bottom pairing defenseman

Has the NHL ever considered a over the cap luxury tax like the NBA?

and fantastic movie references John!!!!!
- Blueline4

It would be the way to go here so we don't keep losing our guys...

As long as we're quoting Python..."honey there's a Mr. Death at the door something about the reaping..."

meanwhile...lots of thoughts in play...

Hartnell for TVR with salary retained...? what does he have left in the tank?

I still like Richards being brought in on a one year team friendly deal...move AA up to left wing.

Others still in play Ship/Vesey/ etc...and now prospects camp - hopefully a couple of the kids step up. And no question Q is going to have to give these kids a chance this season instead of a 4 -6 game audition.

Anyone sign Hudler yet?

While I instantly shrugged off the idea Vesey would even consider signing in Chicago due to the depth, if they are promising him a slot on the top line, that's a hell of a pitch. Only issue would be if it didn't work out, where would he fall? Hell of a pitch nonetheless.

Because he's not too old, is a right shot, cheap, especially cuz he plays defense and has playoff experience.
- Mr Ricochet

You are kind of making my point, why in hell is he behind Kempny or for the love of God Rozy

wouldn't be a horrible deal to do TVR, McNeil, 2017 3rd for Hartnell with 50% retained?

Although the hawks would likely have to do quite a bit of convincing to get Columbus to eat some salary. I'd say at least 1.5 (although more would be nice) to have any sort of room for possible deals throughout the season which I doubt Columbus would do. Like the idea but not sure how the numbers fit.

Really they're better off and more likely looking for a 1 year deal with someone for 1LW. Since panarin needs to be re-upped in less than a year.
- hawkss81

The issue for me in any trade involving TVR is best to make sure all the dots line up and there are no misses.

It can't go on forever whereby the Hawks don't develop and keep young dman. I like TVR more than many, and not saying he isn't untouchable. But I would include McNeil, Polka and +??, if the Jackets ate half the cost...Before including TVR.

The last effective dman developed in Rockford and in Chicago was Hammer. TVR didn't really have much seasoning in Rockford...So that formula of hold onto too long and then dump or... not giving a younger player a real shot and then trading needs to change at some point, sooner than later.

Surely its been discussed here-- but what do you think about Panik playing that role--- as he did late last season--- perhaps with more time with the team and practice-- to clearly define his role-- I'm not saying he is projected as a 1LW-- but if he can be coached to play the role--- he has size-- speed-- and has shown some good board work from my eyes-- not the best finisher-- but---
- jb3333

That's what the plan may be...Can Panik be that guy, he was that way in one playoff series and in some other games. Can he be consistent??...Not sure but maybe.

What about Bertuzzi from the wings. Some grit, battles on the boards and in front of the net. Cap hit of under 700k for two years and detroit is looking for a bottom pairing defenseman
- ikeane

This off season we have seen that defencemen carry much more value than forwards and are harder to obtain.
You have to be careful about trading away young ones especially cost controlled ones.

Regarding expansion, aren't teams only facing one player loss? That player may not necessarily be TVR.

Like .... Anisimov
- John Jaeckel

That could be....Only issue I have is they traded the two guys that could play 2nd line center in TT and Shaw imo better than Richards at this point.

Outside of the core, a top prospect like Schmaltz or maybe Motte and the Hawks having perceived defensive depth TVR is probably their best trade chip.
- Mr Ricochet

To get a 1LW back? No Way

Trade TVR next week, 3 games into the season, Rozy's ankle give out again, and he's back to using a walker.

Just wait and see how many posts there are on here about what and idiot Stan was for trading a dependable, young, cost effective Dman with that much experience at his age.

You don't know how good Kempny is yet, but you certainly know what Rozy, the Giraffe and Gus are.

How many of you would have put the Giraffe, Gus, or Rozy out on the ice ahead of TVR in the playoffs last year?

Why would you do it now. Defense wins championships and the top 6 D of;

Duncs - Seabs
Soupy - Hammer
Kempny - TVR

Is deeper than any of the 3 cup winning teams.

You know the offense and the forward depth is in no way as good as its been. With that being the case, just can't understand why you would give away your strongest asset in d depth.

Is Vesey that guy?

I'm only asking because I have not seen much of him but apparently try that's going to be Stan's main pitch to him.

He is big but seems to be more of a skilled player.
- TyCamScore

I don't know much more than you and haven't looked into him deeply cuz I'm thinking it's a longshot to snag him.

That could be....Only issue I have is they traded the two guys that could play 2nd line center in TT and Shaw imo better than Richards at this point.
- Al

While TT was actually a blackhawk, mentioning that he could play 2C would get you banned

I will keep asking the question, why does everyone think the TVR is a shoe in to get picked up by Vegas next year if he can't even beat out Rozy or Kempny this year?

One side of the debate seems real odd to me
- vabeachbear

Not only am I too lazy but I'm also lacking an overall knowledge of team rosters not to mention players of said rosters. What players would be taken from which teams is pretty interesting and I would love to see some kind of breakdown by team and player position.

I will keep asking the question, why does everyone think the TVR is a shoe in to get picked up by Vegas next year if he can't even beat out Rozy or Kempny this year?

One side of the debate seems real odd to me
- vabeachbear

You are making many assumptions...Is Kempney going to better than TVR on the smaller surface?...Is Rozsy any more than a #7?

Isn't the limit 50%, also as Wiz pointed out yesterday, its two or three more years, even 50% hurts on being able to resign Panarin.
- vabeachbear

Yes...That's what I mean by big.

What about Bertuzzi from the wings. Some grit, battles on the boards and in front of the net. Cap hit of under 700k for two years and detroit is looking for a bottom pairing defenseman
- ikeane

Rozsival uses up the allotment of duct tape and glue.

Like .... Anisimov
- John Jaeckel

Agreed. I think moving Anisimov to Toews' wing makes lots of sense. Richard's and Lane had good chemistry, there's no reason to think Panarin wouldn't as well. I don't think there's an ideal situation out there where the team has a legit 1LW and 2 C due to the cap. But I would feel comfortable with:

Anisimov - Toews - Hossa
Panarin - Richards - Kane

To get a 1LW back? No Way

Trade TVR next week, 3 games into the season, Rozy's ankle give out again, and he's back to using a walker.

Just wait and see how many posts there are on here about what and idiot Stan was for trading a dependable, young, cost effective Dman with that much experience at his age.

You don't know how good Kempny is yet, but you certainly know what Rozy, the Giraffe and Gus are.

How many of you would have put the Giraffe, Gus, or Rozy out on the ice ahead of TVR in the playoffs last year?

Why would you do it now. Defense wins championships and the top 6 D of;

Duncs - Seabs
Soupy - Hammer
Kempny - TVR

Is deeper than any of the 3 cup winning teams.

You know the offense and the forward depth is in no way as good as its been. With that being the case, just can't understand why you would give away your strongest asset in d depth.
- vabeachbear

The TVR trade chip makes sense, considering the fact that they want Rosi to play with Kempny. But TVR is younger and probably more serviceable than Rosi. The thing is, I don't see who else they can trade to land a 1LW. Seems like they are banking on Vesey.

While TT was actually a blackhawk, mentioning that he could play 2C would get you banned
- vabeachbear

The main reason TT was traded is because the front office thought No to 2nd line center...That's why I said on the radio when Hawks were eliminated TT was the best sweetener for someone to take all of Bickell's cap hit.

That said...I would rather play him on the 2nd line than Brad Richards.

PS....TT is smaller and sometimes timid...But it would be best not to sell short 21 year old players-Easiest way to look foolish.

I wish I had a buck for every disparaging comment on here about Nick Leddy before he became a multimillionaire.

You are kind of making my point, why in hell is he behind Kempny or for the love of God Rozy
- vabeachbear

Bear, I don't know about you but I'll wait and see where Q slots TVR. Hard to believe, at least logically, that TVR is behind Rozival.

What about Bertuzzi from the wings. Some grit, battles on the boards and in front of the net. Cap hit of under 700k for two years and detroit is looking for a bottom pairing defenseman
- ikeane

Bertuzzi was released from his professional tryout offer with Binghamton on January 21, 2015, after posting no points and a minus-3 rating in his 2 games played with the Senators. He subsequently retired that year.

Chelios is available

To get a 1LW back? No Way

Trade TVR next week, 3 games into the season, Rozy's ankle give out again, and he's back to using a walker.

Just wait and see how many posts there are on here about what and idiot Stan was for trading a dependable, young, cost effective Dman with that much experience at his age.

You don't know how good Kempny is yet, but you certainly know what Rozy, the Giraffe and Gus are.

How many of you would have put the Giraffe, Gus, or Rozy out on the ice ahead of TVR in the playoffs last year?

Why would you do it now. Defense wins championships and the top 6 D of;

Duncs - Seabs
Soupy - Hammer
Kempny - TVR

Is deeper than any of the 3 cup winning teams.

You know the offense and the forward depth is in no way as good as its been. With that being the case, just can't understand why you would give away your strongest asset in d depth.
- vabeachbear

I said he's their BEST trade chip. I said they would be dealing from PERCEIVED depth. I've said over, and over, and over that a team can NOT have too much defensive depth.

I NEVER said trade TVR, or any other Dman. And I don't care, and hope you don't, what people on this message board thinks of what StanBow does. I only care that it works.

Agreed. I think moving Anisimov to Toews' wing makes lots of sense. Richard's and Lane had good chemistry, there's no reason to think Panarin wouldn't as well. I don't think there's an ideal situation out there where the team has a legit 1LW and 2 C due to the cap. But I would feel comfortable with:

Anisimov - Toews - Hossa
Panarin - Richards - Kane
- DarthKane

Makes no sense to break up one of the best lines in the entire NHL
Give the FO a little time to find a Left Winger for Toews and Hoss

Ya, that's not Hartnell
- vabeachbear

An F1 to crash and knock pucks loose like a Lucic light? I think he fits that role although I don't see it as a fit as money needs to be freed up for Panarin.

Outside of the core, a top prospect like Schmaltz or maybe Motte and the Hawks having perceived defensive depth TVR is probably their best trade chip.
- Mr Ricochet

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