So, anyways....
- Tanooki

??

Halle-(frank)in-lujah!!!

What a week from hell. .... literally, with this humidity.


Mornin' boys. Looks like the dog days of summer are settling in....
- Phenom

Yarp. Front page stories about development camp corner drills between Marner and Matthews

Kevin McGran ‏@kevin_mcgran 19m19 minutes ago Niagara Falls, Ontario
ICYMI: Matthews contract talks bog down over bonuses
https://www.thestar.com/s...ill-without-contract.html

"bog down" yet the article goes on to say there are "some concerns in some corners," without citing a source, and despite Shanahan going on 1050 yesterday saying it'll get done and Marner has bonuses with his contract.

Just making poop up for the clickz. All about the clickz.
- gravyface

It was an issue last year, when Lamoriello was upset Brendan Leipsic appeared for a one-on-one interview on “Hockey Night In Canada” after his successful debut for Toronto in Vancouver, his hometown.

I'm pretty sure their counter offer is going to be substantial, based on preliminary talks yesterday

So here's my situation:

New job is a 5k bump over my current salary, plus full health & dental coverage, disability and life insurance, and a 5% pension strategy that is matched by the company. Plus it is a bit closer to where I live, so less commute. The trade off is less remote work (ie. from home)

The offer my current company may be making is potentially 20k more than my current salary, but is just a flat paycheck. No bells and whistles whatsoever.

Now, $$ isn't everything but I can't help but do a double take at that if its put on the table.

What sucks is the optics. It completely looks like I'm trying to use my manager's passing as a way to gouge the company, meanwhile the new offer was there before it even happened.
- WingmanWillie

First of all, (frank) the optics. This doesn't concern anyone but you and the company and YOU know all this has nothing to do with your manager's death.

For the rest, it all comes down to: Which job will you be the most happy in considering all that's been offered? If the reason you decided to leave was the money, makes sense to take the job offering more of that. If travel was a pain, it makes sense to take the one cutting into that etc....

My best advice to you is this one: Follow your instincts, don't think about it too much because it's hard to know for sure which one is the best using numbers. Deep down, you probably have this feeling of which job is best for you.

Cheers mate, hope it works for the best.

You da real MVP
- WingmanWillie

it was supposed to be a metaphor for going unnoticed

Halle-(frank)in-lujah!!!

What a week from hell. .... literally, with this humidity.


Mornin' boys. Looks like the dog days of summer are settling in....
- Phenom

- DamnBrasKiss

It was an issue last year, when Lamoriello was upset Brendan Leipsic appeared for a one-on-one interview on “Hockey Night In Canada” after his successful debut for Toronto in Vancouver, his hometown.



- poohcrumbs

Yeah, would like to know more about what actually happened. Was he upset that a rookie was getting the spotlight or was he upset that they didn't ask permission?

anyone see/post the comments from Shanny on Polak?

Said he was a 5/6 and is now a depth guy

I'm pretty sure their counter offer is going to be substantial, based on preliminary talks yesterday

So here's my situation:

New job is a 5k bump over my current salary, plus full health & dental coverage, disability and life insurance, and a 5% pension strategy that is matched by the company. Plus it is a bit closer to where I live, so less commute. The trade off is less remote work (ie. from home)

The offer my current company may be making is potentially 20k more than my current salary, but is just a flat paycheck. No bells and whistles whatsoever.

Now, $$ isn't everything but I can't help but do a double take at that if its put on the table.

What sucks is the optics. It completely looks like I'm trying to use my manager's passing as a way to gouge the company, meanwhile the new offer was there before it even happened.
- WingmanWillie

Take the fresh start.....benefits and pension and closer location.....seems only logical.

Yeah, would like to know more about what actually happened. Was he upset that a rookie was getting the spotlight or was he upset that they didn't ask permission?
- gravyface

Whatever it is it seems like Lou is a control freak.

Has its pros and cons.

First of all, (frank) the optics. This doesn't concern anyone but you and the company and YOU know all this has nothing to do with your manager's death.

For the rest, it all comes down to: Which job will you be the most happy in considering all that's been offered? If the reason you decided to leave was the money, makes sense to take the job offering more of that. If travel was a pain, it makes sense to take the one cutting into that etc....

My best advice to you is this one: Follow your instincts, don't think about it too much because it's hard to know for sure which one is the best using numbers. Deep down, you probably have this feeling of which job is best for you.

Cheers mate, hope it works for the best.

- Scabeh

#BusinessBuzz

Seriously though. Thanks everyone for weighing in. We'll see if the new gig allows me to spend the same amount of time on here as I do now

Kevin McGran ‏@kevin_mcgran 19m19 minutes ago Niagara Falls, Ontario
ICYMI: Matthews contract talks bog down over bonuses
https://www.thestar.com/s...ill-without-contract.html

"bog down" yet the article goes on to say there are "some concerns in some corners," without citing a source, and despite Shanahan going on 1050 yesterday saying it'll get done and Marner has bonuses with his contract.

Just making poop up for the clickz. All about the clickz.
- gravyface

Lou's gunna (frank) this up!

anyone see/post the comments from Shanny on Polak?

Said he was a 5/6 and is now a depth guy
- senstroll

Leafs have about 5 active forwards, 3 defensemen, and a bunch of "Depth".

Yarp. Front page stories about development camp corner drills between Marner and Matthews
- WingmanWillie

At least that's something......wait til next week. Snore city.

anyone see/post the comments from Shanny on Polak?

Said he was a 5/6 and is now a depth guy
- senstroll

Yeah, it was music to my ears

2.75k is a lot for a depth guy though, no?

#BusinessBuzz

Seriously though. Thanks everyone for weighing in. We'll see if the new gig allows me to spend the same amount of time on here as I do now

- WingmanWillie

I was remote and it allowed me to blog and chat...remote gone...I dont visit much anymore

#BusinessBuzz

Seriously though. Thanks everyone for weighing in. We'll see if the new gig allows me to spend the same amount of time on here as I do now

- WingmanWillie

"So... what's your policy on hockebuzz time?"

"What?"

"Nevermind"

Yeah, it was music to my ears

2.75k is a lot for a depth guy though, no?
- WingmanWillie

sounds a little low...

I'm pretty sure their counter offer is going to be substantial, based on preliminary talks yesterday

So here's my situation:

New job is a 5k bump over my current salary, plus full health & dental coverage, disability and life insurance, and a 5% pension strategy that is matched by the company. Plus it is a bit closer to where I live, so less commute. The trade off is less remote work (ie. from home)

The offer my current company may be making is potentially 20k more than my current salary, but is just a flat paycheck. No bells and whistles whatsoever.

Now, $$ isn't everything but I can't help but do a double take at that if its put on the table.

What sucks is the optics. It completely looks like I'm trying to use my manager's passing as a way to gouge the company, meanwhile the new offer was there before it even happened.
- WingmanWillie

At the risk of being called a cold-hearted bastard, have they thought about who is going to get the manager's position?

Could that be you?

Yeah, it was music to my ears

2.75k is a lot for a depth guy though, no?
- WingmanWillie

Bah it's for 1 year no?

Brings a solid veteran presence into the lineup and has no impact on the team's cap long term.

Good deal.

- DamnBrasKiss

Always wondered how someone would draw humidity....

I'm pretty sure their counter offer is going to be substantial, based on preliminary talks yesterday

So here's my situation:

New job is a 5k bump over my current salary, plus full health & dental coverage, disability and life insurance, and a 5% pension strategy that is matched by the company. Plus it is a bit closer to where I live, so less commute. The trade off is less remote work (ie. from home)

The offer my current company may be making is potentially 20k more than my current salary, but is just a flat paycheck. No bells and whistles whatsoever.

Now, $$ isn't everything but I can't help but do a double take at that if its put on the table.

What sucks is the optics. It completely looks like I'm trying to use my manager's passing as a way to gouge the company, meanwhile the new offer was there before it even happened.
- WingmanWillie

Take the new job.
For various reasons.
Companies that can only offer you an important increase when you tell them you're going to leave them are not worth working for.
Unless they agree to pay you the difference over last 3 years (60k bonus payment) which you could consider taking and then leave in 6-12 months to a new position from now when the company has reorganised and is more better able to compensate for loss of 2 employees in a month.
staying at you current company would still mean you'll be there for max 2 years.

You can use the counter-offer in discussions with your new company though.
At least let them know (even if you're going to accept their offer) that your current company offered you the 20k increase. Maybe you can use in future negotiations (brining it in right now) or increase the current offer.

Yeah, it was music to my ears

2.75k is a lot for a depth guy though, no?
- WingmanWillie

Polak should of went for an ECHL contract

Bah it's for 1 year no?

Brings a solid veteran presence into the lineup and has no impact on the team's cap long term.

Good deal.
- Scabeh

flip at TDL. Its Winnik all over again